I just bought some 15-50 mobil one syn. to change to oil in my 02 V-Rod and just talked to a buddy about to change his (also a 02) he was looking at his manual and called me telling me it called for Harley oil or diesel grade oil! Am I'm about to mess up putting the mobil one syn. in my bike? What do ya'll run?
Diesel oil for V-rod oil change?
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I just bought some 15-50 mobil one syn. to change to oil in my 02 V-Rod and just talked to a buddy about to change his (also a 02) he was looking at his manual and called me telling me it called for Harley oil or diesel grade oil! Am I'm about to mess up putting the mobil one syn. in my bike? What do ya'll run?
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Do not use regular Mobil 1 synthetic in your motorcycle. It is not intended for wet clutch systems. If you have to use Mobil 1, then use Mobil 1 MT 20/50. I use Royal Purple 20/50 for motorcycles.
Edit: Sorry its V-Twin 20/50.
Here you go: http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Motorcycle_Oils.aspx
Edit: Sorry its V-Twin 20/50.
Here you go: http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Motorcycle_Oils.aspx
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Didn't Mobil have a V-TWIN Version in the past?
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Yes Mobile One has a V twin oil I know of several people that run it in the V-Rods.. I run Amsoil...
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I just walked up to the barn and looked at the Mobil One Syn. I bought...It has a SM, SL/CF rating on it and thats what they say to look for in a Diesel oil...so now I'm a little less worried now. I read a oil analysis on Mobil One and Mobil One V Twin oil a Rider in AZ did on his oil on his Air cooled Harley big twin and the two were almost the same in the tests, not a lot of difference in them at all, and both held up well to the AZ summer heat.
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It'll be fine. It isn't the rocket science that people make it out to be. If it's right for the clutch and the right vis (or close even). It'll run in your bike for years and not ever cause a problem.
I use mobile 1 V-Twin myself. I chose Mobile 1 personally because of the high end autos that it's OEM oil in. It's a good product. But cheap shite is probably good enough IMO.
I use mobile 1 V-Twin myself. I chose Mobile 1 personally because of the high end autos that it's OEM oil in. It's a good product. But cheap shite is probably good enough IMO.
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Thats good to hear, I was a bit worried about the clutch and the mobil one, but if it works well in yours thats all I need to hear! Thanks mwdhand.
I've always ran Mobil one in my big twins so I'm a fan of it! 
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If I could have half the "extra" money I WASTED on high dollar oil and 3000 mile oil changes on the trucks that I've traded off at 3 years old I'd be 25% rich. Oil is one of the biggest scams in the entire world! I could have used golden state, non detergant, straight 30W and never would have known the damned difference (trading my shite in at 75k miles like I did).
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This thread still gets me angry
http://www.1130cc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82185
http://www.1130cc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82185
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There must be a difference in syn oils if one can be run in a new engine, and one cannot before break in. I like the extended run time of the better syn oils. I also like the fact that with the better syn oils I am conserving resources by not using dino oil. Im creating less waste by getting extended run time. I am saving $$$ in the long run. With all that being said, I niether purchase or run any exxon or mobil products. They are the largest oil company out there. They record record profits. And the ones that take it in the @$$ dry are the consumers. Plus they hindered the clean up efforts of the Valdez spill so many years ago. I have boycotted all exxon/mobil products since then. Doing my small part. Jim
Years ago it was not recommenced to run syn on break-in. That has changed now with the advancement of tech on these newer motors.
http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm?x=bfmW6PM,b1cwnQf
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html
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This is my summary as an average auto mechanic and transmission specialist.
The problem with running motorcycle,diesel and specific race oils in todays commuter vehicles,is that it ruins the catalyst from the blowby gases.These oils have a high concentrate of zinc in them.The zinc eats the converter and allows extreme amounts of nitrates and sulfuric acid into the air we breath.Zinc is the element in oil that keeps critical components,such as cam lobe contact at the lifter,from gaulding.With the change in the way cam shafts open valves in late model engines,zinc is not as critical as it used to be.Remember mechanical fuel pumps? These changes,along with the auto manufactures warranting most converters for 120 thousand and higher miles,zinc is a big no no for the companys that back their exhaust systems.
Most motorcycle engines can be broke in with just about any type oil as long as it has a minimum concentration of 1400 ppm.Zinc is also what the friction material in most every wet clutch system needs to keep the material in shape for smooth engagement and long life.Almost every automatic transmission requires a specific amount of zinc on the frictions,which brings me to say that the reason most transmissions in our vehicles nowadays have oil that is good for 100,000 miles,do not have traditional filler tubes and indicator sticks is to keep EPA fines away from each vehicle.The fines are imposed on each manufacturers complete line of vehicles if a minimum is not met,the same goes for a minimum average mpg.These fines at only a few dollars per vehicle,adds up to millions upon millions of dollars if the standard is not met.
So,the bottom line here is it's not completely a mechanical issue with oils in todays engines.It's a green thing.
The problem with running motorcycle,diesel and specific race oils in todays commuter vehicles,is that it ruins the catalyst from the blowby gases.These oils have a high concentrate of zinc in them.The zinc eats the converter and allows extreme amounts of nitrates and sulfuric acid into the air we breath.Zinc is the element in oil that keeps critical components,such as cam lobe contact at the lifter,from gaulding.With the change in the way cam shafts open valves in late model engines,zinc is not as critical as it used to be.Remember mechanical fuel pumps? These changes,along with the auto manufactures warranting most converters for 120 thousand and higher miles,zinc is a big no no for the companys that back their exhaust systems.
Most motorcycle engines can be broke in with just about any type oil as long as it has a minimum concentration of 1400 ppm.Zinc is also what the friction material in most every wet clutch system needs to keep the material in shape for smooth engagement and long life.Almost every automatic transmission requires a specific amount of zinc on the frictions,which brings me to say that the reason most transmissions in our vehicles nowadays have oil that is good for 100,000 miles,do not have traditional filler tubes and indicator sticks is to keep EPA fines away from each vehicle.The fines are imposed on each manufacturers complete line of vehicles if a minimum is not met,the same goes for a minimum average mpg.These fines at only a few dollars per vehicle,adds up to millions upon millions of dollars if the standard is not met.
So,the bottom line here is it's not completely a mechanical issue with oils in todays engines.It's a green thing.
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Thank God for Exxon/Mobil. They are one of the last oil companies with enough balls to stand up to the government, (albeit in a pussy way but at least there is token resistance.) I offset your boycott by buying their product whenever possible, and plan on buying stock this year to finance them and hopefully see a small part of those "big nasty" profits.
O, I use the mobil 1 synth for two oil changes now and it does great.
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So I guess what your saying is: (1) You care more about $$$ for you and them, (2) You dont care about the enviorment and or the nasty things they do to our enviorment. The Valdez spill is still affecting the Alaskin sound, Here in Jacksonville MD they are responsible for the worst gas spill in history that has contaminated local homes wells for just over 2 years now. Do you also dump your used oil into a stream or storm drain? I'll bet if they did something to you or any of your family or relatives you wouldn't feel the same. Everyone has an opinion and its sad you are to blind to see what they are about. Jim
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PS I hope your exxon/mobil stock gets you more of a return then my HD stock is. If I smoked I roll it up and smoke that POS stock for all its worth today. Jim
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WOW,things goin a little rough out there in Pennsyltuckyville?
Maybe you should start smoking.:stilpoke:
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