[Beer.Tom.Rod]

For all those who have installed the Rinehart 2-1 Exhaust system on the "R". Do you have any pictures of the install and how you modded to for clearances on swing arm/controls and back bracket mount.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
Beer.Tom

 

[Beer.Tom.Rod]

RH Install

Sorry, found some good pics in the gallery from Schoen...thanks.
Any other tips are definitely welcome on what you did for mod to fit nicely.

 

[Beer.Tom.Rod]

Project Complete

So, finished installing the RH 2-1 on my R:dance:. Just a couple things for anyone in the future that I encountered.
#1 - On the Bub/RH website it says for the R you need HD bracket #65113-07. DO NOT BUY THIS BRACKET!!! Does not fit on the R.:chainsaw: Save your money.:broke:
#2 - Have the ability to be able to build a mounting bracket yourself (I do and are quite able) if your are not able to fabricate you will be sitting with your bike all apart going what now?:wazzup:
#3 - I only used one bracket that came with the exhaust kit.
I made a frame mounting bracket out of 1 1/2" aluminum angle, made a few cosmetic cuts, drilled a few holes. Took a bit of R&D, and a few beers to get the position just right to get the clearances I needed for the swing arm and foot peg. Used pictures from Schoen's gallery for brake lever mod. Works great (thanks Schoen:cheers
Spaced out the rear brake cylinder and had a machinist friend make a 1/4" spacer for the inside of the peddle and milled 1/4" off the outside of the brake peddle for proper clearance.
Now need to cut the grommet mount off the R foot peg from the old exhaust or change the foot pegs...any suggestions?
Love the sound!!! and really brings out the sleek lines on the bike.
Good luck to others and highly recommended.
Tom

 

[Beer.Tom.Rod]

Pics didn't post...oops

Rinehart 2-1 installation.

 

[BrianVRSCR]

So, finished installing the RH 2-1 on my R:dance:. Just a couple things for anyone in the future that I encountered.
#1 - On the Bub/RH website it says for the R you need HD bracket #65113-07. DO NOT BUY THIS BRACKET!!! Does not fit on the R.:chainsaw: Save your money.:broke:
#2 - Have the ability to be able to build a mounting bracket yourself (I do and are quite able) if your are not able to fabricate you will be sitting with your bike all apart going what now?:wazzup:
#3 - I only used one bracket that came with the exhaust kit.
I made a frame mounting bracket out of 1 1/2" aluminum angle, made a few cosmetic cuts, drilled a few holes. Took a bit of R&D, and a few beers to get the position just right to get the clearances I needed for the swing arm and foot peg. Used pictures from Schoen's gallery for brake lever mod. Works great (thanks Schoen:cheers
Spaced out the rear brake cylinder and had a machinist friend make a 1/4" spacer for the inside of the peddle and milled 1/4" off the outside of the brake peddle for proper clearance.
Now need to cut the grommet mount off the R foot peg from the old exhaust or change the foot pegs...any suggestions?
Love the sound!!! and really brings out the sleek lines on the bike.
Good luck to others and highly recommended.
Tom

Why does the H-D bracket not work like it says on the Bub website? If the bolts were off why could you not just drill the right holes in the H-D bracket?

 

[Schoen]

Now need to cut the grommet mount off the R foot peg from the old exhaust or change the foot pegs...any suggestions?
Love the sound!!! and really brings out the sleek lines on the bike.
Good luck to others and highly recommended.
Tom

I've been wondering about that grommet mount too. But so long as I have the stock exhaust in a box, I figure I'd better not cut it off. Can't imagine ever putting it back on though. The before and after pics of your bike should convince everyone to go w/a 2-1.

It sounds like you shaved your 1/4 inch off the outer part of the brake lever rather than the inside pivot point (like on mine). Just goes to show there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Regarding your question on passenger pegs. If you don't lower the back end, you could get the swingarm mounted passenger pegs for the VRSCA. Look at the cross member of the swingarm (the part that goes under the gas tank). You'll see two holes on each side of the bike (about an inch or so apart and covered with little black plastic caps). That's were those passenger pegs attach. CAPTJAM has some mounted on his R with a pic or two visible in his gallery. I have the Works Performance 14.25" rear shocks which brings the swingarm cross member closer to the tank, so I can't use those stock pegs. I'm going to be working on an idea this winter to modify the stock A passenger peg set up for my lowered R. When you look at those two mounting holes on either side of the swingarm, you'll see that the inner hole mount is the part that would collide with the tank (that's if you have a lowered rear end and utilize the stock A pegs). My idea will utilize only the outer hole and will probably drill/tap into the part of the cross member that faces the tire, so the new mount goes down in between the tire and the cross member for the support it doesn't get from the inner stock hole. But again, if you don't lower it, you should be able to do just what CAPTJAM did without any problem. Once I get the A pegs mounted, I'll likely keep the stock pegs in place for a while because they fit my 7 year old perfectly (but not my 36 year old wife - for whom I'm doing this winter project).

Anyway, well done on the RH install! If it weren't for guys here like BrianVRSCR and streetrodder06 blazing the way, I never would have ordered the pipe.

 

[Beer.Tom.Rod]

HD Bracket

Why does the H-D bracket not work like it says on the Bub website? If the bolts were off why could you not just drill the right holes in the H-D bracket?

The holes on the frame of the R are a different pattern than the DX. Where the problem comes in is that when you try to move the HD bracket to a position that you can drill some holes to mount to the frame the supplied bracket for the pipe mount doesn't reach... so you end up making yet another bracket.
or when you use the supplied mount bracket for the pipe the HD bracket lines up in a position right where the vertical support is and there is no room to drill and mount on the HD bracket to the frame.
I truly tried to find a way to make it work but I wore out my brain I finally gave up at @ 2:00AM and had a fresh start in the morning. Still couldn't make it work. So I just made my own.
If you look at Rockerdan's pictures in his gallery, you can get an idea what the HD bracket looks like. It mounted on his DX very nicely. It's a great solid mount. Once again the differences of the R make us special
My biggest concern was not to have the mounts directly to the frame (solid) as the engine has rubber mounts and the pipe needs a little flex room for the vibration. I was able to achieve this the way I did it.
Hope this helps explain:blahblah:
Tom

 

[Beer.Tom.Rod]

I've been wondering about that grommet mount too. But so long as I have the stock exhaust in a box, I figure I'd better not cut it off. Can't imagine ever putting it back on though. The before and after pics of your bike should convince everyone to go w/a 2-1.

Anyway, well done on the RH install! If it weren't for guys here like BrianVRSCR and streetrodder06 blazing the way, I never would have ordered the pipe.

Thanks Schoen,
I was kinda thinking the same thing about the foot peg. I'm 6'4" and don't think I'll be lowering the bike, but I like the idea about the other pegs. I saw the capped holes in the swingarm and thought I saw something about putting some in that spot.

As for your comment on Streetrodder06 and BrianVRSCR I totally agree. Thanks guys!!:notworth:
Tom

 

[Schoen]

I was kinda thinking the same thing about the foot peg. I'm 6'4" and don't think I'll be lowering the bike...

You're right. At 6'4" you don't need to lower it and those VRSCA passenger pegs should fit the bill. Watch the classifieds.

If you plan on keeping a pic of your bike as your avatar, you might want to update it to show off that RH.

 

[Beer.Tom.Rod]

Oops

Done :thumb:

 

[RF_R_US]

Bad Chrome on Rinehart 2 into 1

So I got my 2nd Rinehart pipe back today and it looks like the same one I returned to the dealer (not Bub/Rinehart) but they chased out the bung threads that had excess welding slag inside the pipe (looked like the O2 sensor wouldn't have fit). See following pix of the "good" front side pipe vs. the "bad" rear pipe.

Good Pipe



Bad Pipe #1

http://www.1130cc.com/gallery/files/2/5/0/2/9/dscn2548_thumb.jpg

:banghead:

Bad Pipe #2

http://www.1130cc.com/gallery/files/2/5/0/2/9/dscn2553_thumb.jpg

The chrome is almost non-existent on the flange edge of the rear header vs. the front. If the front wasn't so nice it wouldn't make the rear look so bad. Am I being too picky or did others have this kind of workmanship on the pipe.

Next post, why doesn't the HD bracket fit?

 

[RF_R_US]

HD Bracket 65113-07 won't fit on "R"

So besides the poor chrome on the rear pipe, I too cannot figure out how to use HD 65113-07 bracket to make this fit. Following are pictures showing the mounting holes do not align to the mounting bolts on the R frame.

HD Bracket not aligning to R bolt pattern

http://www.1130cc.com/gallery/files/2/5/0/2/9/hd_65113_07_no_line_up_to_r_bolts_thumb.jpg

http://www.1130cc.com/gallery/files/2/5/0/2/9/hd_bracket_hole_too_far_apart_thumb.jpg

If ANYBODY has made this work I'd like to hear about it. I'm willing to modify things but don't want to start hacking and fabbing given how much this pipe and bracket has already cost me.

Also does anyone have a scanned diagram showing the grommets that are supposed to go onto the HD bracket? :notworth:

Tnx,

John

:banghead:

 

[RF_R_US]

Did you say you managed to fabricate some kind of vibration mount as I don't see it in the photographs. I'd hate to fab a bracket and have the pipes or something else crack from not enough vibration allowance.

tnx,

John

 

[CPTJAM]

John, picture 5 shows the pad of rubber he put in. Grow the picture and you can see it. Trust me, if you don't mod / fab / hack / slash, you will keep the R stock! Nothing fits an R! If it does, it costs more! Half the fun, I guess! Joe

 

[RF_R_US]

So it's that horizontal piece, like a 1/4" or less piece of rubber. I wonder if that is enough vibration damping? I see how he fabricated the other bracket out of the 1 1/4" aluminum square stock, seems simple enough and little shaker can of gloss black. Why couldn't Rinehart/Bub come up with a simple bracket ??? I'm going to stare at the HD bracket for awhile tonight and see if I can see something nobody else has, who knows. What do you think about the pix of the pipe? Is that normal quality ?

tnx,

John (guess I'll start a small machine shop just to maintain my "R", sniff :broke:

 

[RF_R_US]

While I'm asking can you re-use the header flange gaskets or are new ones required ?

 

[streetrodder06]

I feel like I am a celebrity now

Thanx for the props. The only reason I got mine was because of Brian. He was the first to put it on his, and then it was me and KWIKR. This pipe is well worth the money!!

Great jobs on your installations as well.

 

[streetrodder06]

While I'm asking can you re-use the header flange gaskets or are new ones required ?

It depends on who you talk to. I reused mine, but at the time the bike had really low miles. It has never leaked at all. If you have a lot of miles, it may be worthwhile to replace them though.

 

[Schoen]

...Why couldn't Rinehart/Bub come up with a simple bracket ???...

Because the brake pedal still would not clear without modification.

 

[CPTJAM]

While I'm asking can you re-use the header flange gaskets or are new ones required ?

It is free to try. Worst case, they leak, and need replacing. No big deal. You will destroy them if you try to remove them. They don't come out easy. As long as they work, use them. Joe