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Well, late this fall I purchased a chrome FAIC pipe from Jeffo. I had contacted him and spoke with him numberous times on the phone. He at that time only had two pipes left, stating that they are no longer in production. He had two chrome pipes left, a NEW pipe, and a used one which was sent to a company for performance testing. After speaking with Jeffo it was decided that I would purchase the new pipe, due to the used pipe having some blueing according to Jeffo. I asked for pictures first, however, he insisted on not unpacking the pipes and "ruining" the excellent packaging the pipe was already in. Jeffo made it clear that these pipes are "as is", but insisted they were not damaged or anything.
I received the pipe along with a few bottles of chrome polish. I inspected the NEW pipe, and found that near the collector, it seemed as though it wasnt fully chromed, like part of the pipe got chromed and some didnt. It was hard to see unless you were looking for it, but you could definately tell that in the "hard to see areas" were not as shiny and chromed as the rest of the pipe. I wrote this off as my thoughts were that it was not gaudy and were hard to see unless you actually got down and looked at the collector.
I also purchased a custom map from Jeffo, built strictly for my bike and my riding conditions based on my elevation level and temp information that I had given him. A custom map was generated and sent to me that same day.
I installed the pipe using new gaskets. There was some fitment issues, as it seemed as though some parts were either missing or the pipe was not shaped correctly. We had to use an inch spacer to close the gap and get the rear of the pipe connected to the bike. The pipe seemed to bee too far away from the bike, and the bracket on my bike had to be bent to meet the pipe, then the spacer so close up the space. The front pipe was very close to the frame. With some minor ajustments and some improvising, the pipe was installed. We checked for leaks and fitment issues, but we seemed to have taken care of it.
We followed the instructions sent with the new PCIII USB Power Commander map custom made for my bike. A K&N air filter was also installed. The bike was stock prior to these instalations.
The bike fired up and sounded great. We checked for exhaust leaks and was not able to find any. We shut the bike down, took it off the bike lift, and I took it for a ride. By this time it was dark and cold, probably 40F my guess. I rode the bike back home, which was about ten miles, and parked it. The next day I get the bike out and come to find out the front and rear pipe had burnt up to the bung. I was instantly pissed. I grabbed the chrome polished and went to town. After about 3 hours of polishing, most of the burn was gone, however there was a gold tint to the chrome. I decided to ride the bike to the garage and try to figure something out or find a problem in the map. I didnt get more than 2 miles from my pipe and both the front and rear pipe was burnt again, just as bad as the first time. I pulled over and got a few pictures.
I attempted contact with Jeffo, however, he did not answer. I left a few messages. Later that day he called me back and I advised him of the problem. He stated he checked my map and the map was fine, stating that the map couldnt have burnt the pipe. The only thing he said was that I should have purchased a fuel treatment from him like he suggested, which would reduce the burn temp by up to 300 degrees. I told him that I shouldnt have to run a fuel treatment for the chrome not to burn. He then stated that I may want to jett hot coat his pipe then.
I wrote him a long email and sent him pictures as proof, however, he is not responding to me.
I was going to post the map on here to get your opinions, however, Jeffo stated that if I share the map with anyone I loose "rights" to use it and he will not help fine tune the map ect....
What are your opinions? I was thinking I have no choice but to jett hot coat the pipe, but what happens if I do that and it still ****s up the pipe, and maybe is a horrible map. Jeffo is not claiming responsibility for the burnt pipe. To me I think it is a piss poor chrome job to begin with, and the thin ass chrome couldnt stand the heat and burnt. Im so damn frustrated that I dropped a grand on this pipe and within the first few miles the chrome burnt.
What do you think I should do? Your thoughts and opinions are welcome.
Here are the few pictures i have.
I received the pipe along with a few bottles of chrome polish. I inspected the NEW pipe, and found that near the collector, it seemed as though it wasnt fully chromed, like part of the pipe got chromed and some didnt. It was hard to see unless you were looking for it, but you could definately tell that in the "hard to see areas" were not as shiny and chromed as the rest of the pipe. I wrote this off as my thoughts were that it was not gaudy and were hard to see unless you actually got down and looked at the collector.
I also purchased a custom map from Jeffo, built strictly for my bike and my riding conditions based on my elevation level and temp information that I had given him. A custom map was generated and sent to me that same day.
I installed the pipe using new gaskets. There was some fitment issues, as it seemed as though some parts were either missing or the pipe was not shaped correctly. We had to use an inch spacer to close the gap and get the rear of the pipe connected to the bike. The pipe seemed to bee too far away from the bike, and the bracket on my bike had to be bent to meet the pipe, then the spacer so close up the space. The front pipe was very close to the frame. With some minor ajustments and some improvising, the pipe was installed. We checked for leaks and fitment issues, but we seemed to have taken care of it.
We followed the instructions sent with the new PCIII USB Power Commander map custom made for my bike. A K&N air filter was also installed. The bike was stock prior to these instalations.
The bike fired up and sounded great. We checked for exhaust leaks and was not able to find any. We shut the bike down, took it off the bike lift, and I took it for a ride. By this time it was dark and cold, probably 40F my guess. I rode the bike back home, which was about ten miles, and parked it. The next day I get the bike out and come to find out the front and rear pipe had burnt up to the bung. I was instantly pissed. I grabbed the chrome polished and went to town. After about 3 hours of polishing, most of the burn was gone, however there was a gold tint to the chrome. I decided to ride the bike to the garage and try to figure something out or find a problem in the map. I didnt get more than 2 miles from my pipe and both the front and rear pipe was burnt again, just as bad as the first time. I pulled over and got a few pictures.
I attempted contact with Jeffo, however, he did not answer. I left a few messages. Later that day he called me back and I advised him of the problem. He stated he checked my map and the map was fine, stating that the map couldnt have burnt the pipe. The only thing he said was that I should have purchased a fuel treatment from him like he suggested, which would reduce the burn temp by up to 300 degrees. I told him that I shouldnt have to run a fuel treatment for the chrome not to burn. He then stated that I may want to jett hot coat his pipe then.
I wrote him a long email and sent him pictures as proof, however, he is not responding to me.
I was going to post the map on here to get your opinions, however, Jeffo stated that if I share the map with anyone I loose "rights" to use it and he will not help fine tune the map ect....
What are your opinions? I was thinking I have no choice but to jett hot coat the pipe, but what happens if I do that and it still ****s up the pipe, and maybe is a horrible map. Jeffo is not claiming responsibility for the burnt pipe. To me I think it is a piss poor chrome job to begin with, and the thin ass chrome couldnt stand the heat and burnt. Im so damn frustrated that I dropped a grand on this pipe and within the first few miles the chrome burnt.
What do you think I should do? Your thoughts and opinions are welcome.
Here are the few pictures i have.
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