Water pump shaft brass bushing Part No. ?

Ya, I've studied every engine drawing and picture in the service manual and they all seem to omit that one pressed-in bushing. Weird.

Russ said:

Ya, I've studied every engine drawing and picture in the service manual and they all seem to omit that one pressed-in bushing. Weird.

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It's actually bronze. Pretty sure it (they) would need to be custom made at a machine shop. Not available from HD. What's wrong with yours, as in does it not spec out for clearances?
Ron

rbabos said:

Pretty sure it (they) would need to be custom made at a machine shop. Not available from HD. What's wrong with yours, as in does it not spec out for clearances?
Ron

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Mine got worn from oil contamination that went through the motor. A powder coating accident as it were, where media abrasives leached into the oil, seizing up the motor within minutes. Very nasty $$. Anyway, I'm gathering parts to put it back together, replacing everything that got damaged.

It's just this little bugger brass bushing that doesn't seem to show up on any exploded diagram or parts catalogue.

Russ said:

Ya, I've studied every engine drawing and picture in the service manual and they all seem to omit that one pressed-in bushing. Weird.

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Good luck , it’s 2am where I am and I’ve got to get up at 5 am so I leave ya with it and check in later . All the best


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Russ said:

Mine got worn from oil contamination that went through the motor. A powder coating accident as it were, where media abrasives leached into the oil, seizing up the motor within minutes. Very nasty $$. Anyway, I'm gathering parts to put it back together, replacing everything that got damaged.

It's just this little bugger brass bushing that doesn't seem to show up on any exploded diagram or parts catalogue.

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From what I see, custom made is the only real option.
Ron

theres a number on the
bushes.24361-01k and24360-01k.not sure if availible seperately from case.

pecee said:

theres a number on the
bushes.24361-01k and24360-01k.not sure if availible seperately from case.

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Part number search brings nothing up.
Ron

pecee said:

theres a number on the
bushes.24361-01k and24360-01k.not sure if availible seperately from case.

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Looks like they possibly were at one time. Both numbers come up as "No longer available"

Have your dealer run the #'s on the H-D dealer net search - you might luck out ! I've found some pretty difficult out of production parts and accessories in weird dealers across the country sitting on their shelf gathering dust - also ask Scott Fitzgerald and Ray Vreeland they may have a supplier or can whip you up a couple in the machine shop.

Just spoke to a mate on the Gold Coast (QLD Australia ) and he says you definitely can buy this bushing from Harley . Or if no good he’ll go thru his workshop as has a couple stashed away


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Mc Vrod said:

Just spoke to a mate on the Gold Coast (QLD Australia ) and he says you definitely can buy this bushing from Harley . Or if no good he’ll go thru his workshop as has a couple stashed away


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Thanks Mc Vrod. Always good to know we Commonwealth peasants looking out for one another. My machine shop says he can fabricate one, so I'll see how that turns out. If not, I'll definitely take you up on that generous offer.

Cheers mate!

Russ said:

Thanks Mc Vrod. Always good to know we Commonwealth peasants looking out for one another. My machine shop says he can fabricate one, so I'll see how that turns out. If not, I'll definitely take you up on that generous offer.

Cheers mate!

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Could be cheaper to buy them if available unless you have bar laying around in the shop. Plus you won't need to decide on which bronze to use. I doubt factory replacements are plug and play. Most likely the ID will be slightly small, requiring a line ream to size them after pressing them in. No big deal for machinist. I take it the pump shaft is all marked up too.
Ron

Actually the shaft doesn’t look too bad, no noticeable scoring, smooth finish. I think that in this case, the softer bronze or brass took most of the wear.

As for getting my computer challenged dealer to to search for a part, is like pulling teeth. Which is why I give them the part number to punch in. Even at that, the contortion on their faces suggests a high degree of apprehension and stress.

Russ said:

Actually the shaft doesn’t look too bad, no noticeable scoring, smooth finish. I think that in this case, the softer bronze or brass took most of the wear.

As for getting my computer challenged dealer to to search for a part, is like pulling teeth. Which is why I give them the part number to punch in. Even at that, the contortion on their faces suggests a high degree of apprehension and stress.

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I hear you. It taxes their brains. As for the bronze, two come to mind. Aluminum bronze which is harder or Silcone bronze. There are others as well. Depends on the heat treatment on the shaft. If heat treated to a reasonable amount the Aluminum bronze would still be the sacrificial part. Either will work but curious what your machinist suggests either from life experiences or the almighty machinist hand book.
Ron

Playin' the Revo " OH it's a V Rod " pretty please parts game.

I've got my empty 1250 cases on the engine stand and my bushings look OK but I won't know for sure until I take my 1130 cases apart and put the shaft in and check the play. I ordered a couple tools from H-D for my engine and when I go pick them up I'll have the parts Mgr. run the #'s Ron provided and see what pops up - all I can tell you is they use a separate computer for the H-D.net searches for out of production parts and they provide a list of dealers that show stock, then you have to call the dealers individually to ask if they have it. And yes, they normally give me a funny look on their face as there's really nothing in it for them as I'm are buying the parts directly from another dealer. I found it's best for me to ask when picking up parts I ordered prior and when they're not busy ( Sunday afternoon ) :blahblah:

I hate to think you would need to replace the case halves, but considering the damage
$1740 if they can still be had, this p/n 24444-02K is for a 2002 VRSCA, your needs may vary

One would assume that a vehicle manufacturer is required to carry parts for 10-years after end of production, or in the VRSC case, only 2017. MOCO shirking their responsibility doesn't exactly endear brand loyalty, knowing that any model you buy, MOCO will drop support the instant it suits them.

Here MOCO apparently failed to give one simple brass bushing a damn part number and account for it on a drawing somewhere. They only had 17-years to catch their mistake, but obviously never gave a shit about anything rivaling their ancient push-rod air-cooled, made-in-China, assemble in USA junk. No wonder dealership floors are still stocked with last year's models.

But luckily, it shouldn't be too difficult to turn one of these brass parts on a decent lathe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, placing my trust in my local seasoned machinist. I'll let you know how it turns out.