I haven't installed my Lyndall Rotors and Gold Plus pads yet but they're sitting in my room. One big plus to Lyndall is that they "guarantee our rotors for the life of your bike (when used exclusively with our premium quality organic brake pads.) "Wow that's amazing JJrod especially with a Turbo you got a Jake Brake on that bike ? I'll try the Lyndalls next time as I'm hard on brakes and ride two up like 80% of the time so more weight to stop. One thing is I'd rather stop 1 foot short of the car door that turned in front of me than have weaker toilet paper brake pads that last longer cost less and instead stop 1 foot inside the car door - I'm going to go practice emergency stops now - Lighting, Brakes,Tires and Riding Ability can save your A$$ !