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Noel
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The fun began today.

I pulled all the stuff so the my Budd's Bill & Pete could assist me in removing the engine from the frame, mounting the stand bracket and hoisting the 240 some pounds into the engine stand.

The oil came out nice & clean, no scary bearing materials, a tiny bit of steel frags on the plug magnet, probably gear material from the Tranny.

Intake valve as seen through the intake ports look OK.

Some of the things going into the project, new second gear, shifter fork, hardened shaft, etc.....

Next weekend, or possibly the following the full disassembly starts on the engine.

Still waiting on Chicago HD to ship my part orders, one is 3+ months old the other about 6 weeks. Come guy's let's get on the STICK :soapbox: you've had my money all this time and I've done paid the credit card bills, yet NO PARTS.:spank:
 

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Noel
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:stilpoke: Finally got some action from Chicago HD, they CAN NOT fill my orders from last August (this was The wiring kit for the DYNA-DRL-400), nor can they fill the engine refresh project parts order.

They apologized & issued credits to my card.

NOw I'm off to the local dealer to place an in person order, maybe it will come in a timely fashion! Actually the local dealer has been very good about timeliness when I have ordered stuff!

but .. :soapbox:

I resent HD CORP putting the pinch on dealers who have up to this point had fantastic Internet sales departments, this is NOT for everyone, plenty of good reasons to walk into a store to get in person customer service when appropriate and on the flip side it's very convenient to order over the net.
 

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Hi

Maybe vrodracing90 you can help me..

I'm looking for the original VRXSE shift light (parts: 69429-06) does anyone have one..? All dealer are BO right now... and I'm scared that this parts will be discontinued...

Let me know

Thanks
 

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Noel
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Parts Order.

Thanks to a tip off from Bryan on an upcoming sale, I went down to Russ' Ocean State HD in Warwick RI on Saturday morning with the MRS.

Ordered over a ~$970.00 worth of stuff for the rebuild project,

Launch box wiring kit, O-ring, Fuel hose, Fuel hose pump to filter, Fuel module seal, Destroyer Injector kit, Gray Sealant, Assembly Lube, Valve seals, Engine gasket kit, Rear head gasket, Front head gasket, Trans bearing left input shaft, Trans bearing left output shaft, Exhaust gaskets, Destroyer air box bracket kit, Head bolts, Breather tube hose (backup for when the current one rots & leaks, Map sensor kit w O-ring, Surface gap spark plugs
I got 25% off the list prices net ~$727.00, add RI 7% sales tax =$51.00 and no shipping fees!!!!

I saved more than the deal with Chicago HD, where I was only getting a 10% discount but had to pay about $40 for shipping!

In the grands scheme, I'm saving by going to the local guy, stimulating the local economy, where RI has been in the shite-bin for quite some time. :broke::broke:

Assuming Russ' comes through I'll be all set, but if they have trouble coming up with obscure Destroyer parts, I will be hitting a few of our forum Racers for supply help, (several of you have offered to help in PM's) I greatly appreciate the racer support :notworth:

I'll need to put in a supplemental order once the case is split and I know which main & rod bearing codes to order, also need to get a fresh oil pan to spacer gasket/baffle, O-ring for the clutch hat, piston ring set if the original rings show unusual wear and a new flange nut for the output sprocket.
 

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Noel
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Covers off & Cam & Tensioner Lash Checks.

I reported the details of the lash checks over in Mechanical for ongoing commentary by other Destroyer owners instead of here or within this sub forum for general interest, NOTE the tolerances on Destroyer heads are a bit looser than street heads.

Here is that thread:
http://www.1130cc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2207691#post2207691

The rest of the project involved stripping the engine of all covers & accessories, sensors, etc so that we will be ready for case splitting tomorrow afternoon.

Before I jump into that, My Buddie Bill wants to do a cam timing check to see if I'm in spec according to the book, intake is 107+/- 1 degree
exhaust is 116 +/- 1 degree., I'm not sure if it's a VRD violation to tinker with the timing, since I probably have little chance of ever reaching their competitive level, it's probably a moot issue.:deal:

Bill likes to tailer timing to get what he believes is better flow, we'll talk more about that later.

I dropped the oil pan, no gross amounts of nasty crap, couple flecks of bearing material (non-ferrous), as well as a few gear fragments (ferrous/magnetic).

I'll post some photos of the tear-down, my cannons battery SHT-THE-BED, partway so I only have a few pictures.

Tomorrows report will have the engine apart and a better idea of the shim ranges I'll need for tweaking, main & rod bearing codes, condition of rings, etc.
 

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She's Naked (The engine that is)

We spent about eight hours work, starting with additional diagnostics, my lash measures were fine. The Cam timing was in spec.

Went onto pulling the rest of the engine apart, this getting easy, NOW that it's my third time.

Neatly organized all the parts as they were coming off.

The Pistons & rings look good, very little carbon build on them, a bit on the cylinder walls at the squish. The rings appear to be fine, but new ones are going in just because. The cyl look like new, still all the original cross hatch, no thrust gouging. The case blow by we got during th eleak down testing a few weeks ago, was attributed to mal-aligned compression rings, they were with 30 degrees of each other, might have contributed to a bit of end gap leaking.

The Tranny overall looked good except second gear, there was quite a bit of wear in the gear pockets, the dog's showed a bit of wear too, this is where I was getting fragments. The new VH straight cut will be replacing these helical gears, the gears themselves do not appear to have any issues, but that's just a matter of time, off with these and on with the new ones!!

The cam's were not as bad as the photo's make them out to be, Bill thinks this was a crude machining process on the cam grinds, it was uniform on all the cams on the leading & trailing ramps as well as the heal, only the nose of the cam was mirror smooth with no unusual wear, all the buckets tops were fine too.

The heads were in pretty good shape though we still need to pull the individual valves and start the reconditioning process, that will be over the next few weeks at his shop.
 

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The Secretary of my Treasury, checking on the budget LOL..
She also is the first photo on my new Cannon Elph-100-HS, simple Lil Camera.
 

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Noel
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Russ' Ocean State Harley-Davidson, Inc. kicks azz!

They filled my Destroyer engine rebuild part list in 12 day, including the elusive launch box wire adapter kit for use with the DRL400! I'm using that to resurrect the stock Launch Box

THANK YOU Ocean State HD!!
 

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Noel
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MyvrodRocks Building his engine a few years ago.

Valve & Cam work this weekend.


Soon we will be doing this, http://youtu.be/qq-5sDeKLhU
MyvrodRocks Building his engine a few years ago.
 

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I really wished I lived closed...
 

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I really wished I lived closed...
I hear ya, it would be good to have you, Lou, Lonnie, Scott or any of the other notable VROD engine builders in the ~HOOD~, we're doing well, as some of you know my projects move a glacial speed compared to the 24 48 or 72 hour projects I've seen & read about here. :notworth:
 

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Cam Cleanup & Start of Head Reconditioning

The heads came apart today at Bills shop, the faces of all the valves were in pretty good shape, very little carbon inclusions on them or the seats. Though plenty of build up just before and after the exhaust seats. Bright yellow burnt fuel residue on the exhausts, uniform on all four. The port work inside the heads were not bad for the machine cut, but we're going to clean them up taking some of the texture away, leaving a satin surface, not a mirror surface!

The Cam's were all uniform as far as the initial machining, a few minutes on the polishing wheel with white compound made them look much better, they all cleaned up nice. I will give them a good douching with cleaner to make sure no polishing compound remains. :spank:

The Valve's have been cleaned up with a blasting glass/soda compound in the BLAST CABINET, then a final wiping with red scotch-brite, they will be final lapped after the heads are done. New Valve seals too.

The new Springs are on standby.

I mic'd all the shims to figure out what I have and what I might need for final setup.

Next round of work will be the 26th or 2nd, final cleanup and head reassembly. We noticed the feared casting erosion between the intake seats, not going to do anything this cycle except measure where I am at, next year we will compare what has transpired in race season 2012, if the gap grows, then the next service procedure will be sent to Shortblock Charlie for keyed seat installation

Then we will move to the tranny gear set's to install the V&H 2nd gear's and new bearings on the left side.

Hopefully we will have all final assembly supplies by then and engine rebuild sometime by the end of January.:angelwin:
 

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