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V&H used to sell optionally solid shift fork shafts (35-0055) with 2nd gear replacement (35-9006). It was replacement for the standard hollow 35434-01K shaft.

Is there still any sense to replace this hollow shaft with the solid one? According to my approximations solid resists bending +20%. Is this really a problem?

I am wondering what was the original reason for this replacement.
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Wasn't this a problem only on the first two year models? And that the hollow axle was replaced with a solid one from 2003/04.
20% is not that much but worth the work of not having to split the cases.
I still have that hollow shaft. I thought it was from -08 model but could be wrong. I have several year parts mixed in my motor. Shifter forks and drum are newer type already.

Hardened and ground 12mm shaft won't fit directly. Has to be reground little a bit.
Wasn't this a problem only on the first two year models? And that the hollow axle was replaced with a solid one from 2003/04.
20% is not that much but worth the work of not having to split the cases.
I am not sure that pivot shaft ever went solid or changed. The part no. is the same right from beginning to end of production. Maybe the Destroyer had a solid one if V&H thought it might have been a weak spot for drag racing.
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It is bit hard to see that there could be such a load involved that it could bend shaft so much that misalignment will cause sticking or unprecise gear changes.

At the first place I thought it has something do with the lubrication but other end is in the bottom hole.

However this is one of those mods which is easy to apply just in case. Of course it weights slightly more.
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Ok so there has been some flex issues in the past. I've heard something about this but did not remember where it came from. That is why asked this here. Thanks Knut for the links.
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At the end of the day think about it - if the stock helical cut 2nd gears that side load and flex the shift fork and shaft are replaced with the straight cut 2nd gears that do not side load the fork and shaft the stock hollow shift fork shaft has a much lower load on it and it will have a lesser chance of breaking since it's load is now so much lower.

As stated the solid may resist bending 20% better but if bent in cycles it may break faster than a hollow shaft since it has a solid middle - that's why many highly loaded shafts that have cyclic loads are hollow, it's not just to save weight.

Just looked at my 2010 AW cases & tranny on the work bench - the Shift Drum shaft is solid, the Shift Fork shaft is hollow. I looked into this before when I bought my straight cut 2nd gearset but honestly IMHO I see no reason to replace the hollow shaft with a solid shaft if we're running straight cut 2nd gearsets.

Having said that highly boosted stock engines drag racing with a stock helical gearset ? Yes, it needs to be stronger but if you're doing that high boost riding/racing you've got weak spots that will be bigger problems that will surface and when they do you'll be inside the engine and can replace the helical gears with straight cut gears then - and maybe install a new hollow shift fork shaft as a precaution since it's been abused racing with helical gears - :cool:
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Yes straight cut 2nd gear set from the Robinson is already in use. What troubles me most is that I do not see that direct relationship between gear and shift fork shaft loads. I thought it came from the shift shaft (foot) forces conducted by the drum when dogs are holding gear more thus forks bends the shaft.

I have not heard that any fork shafts have been completely broken but can this bending (if really exists) cause unwanted shift missings if gears are not engaging smoothly. Of course I am considering non stock powers here.
Yes a heavy shift foot or air shifter that's incorrectly adjusted passes a lot of force thru shift shaft ( they break ) and then upstream with pressure on the shift pawls / shift drum and forks that goes way up - but also the side load on those helical gears is something the forks & shaft have to control and fight if the load is not removed by an ignition interrupter or by proper rpm / speed shifting - so on high power bikes with manual shifting and helical gears there is a higher possibility of overloading forks and shaft when racing and completing 4 upshifts in 9-11 seconds with power partially or fully applied - undercutting the dogs, proper air shifter adjustment with ignition cutout and straight cut gears all mitigate the limitations of the stock street bike gearbox, but it's not cheap, 1K for street cut 3K + for a full race tranny from the guys here in Clearwater FL.
After all their careful setup V&H may have decided for them the solid fork shaft was cheap reliability insurance and maybe more accurate shifting under constant Pro level racing conditions. Now they're out of production any solid shaft that's made would have to be the proper hardness and surface smoothness after machining and that is a challenge. May be better to simply replace the hollow OEM shaft with new every third rebuild or 10K miles at the discretion of the builder - (y):cool:
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I am using Healtech iQSE-1 quick shifter which otherwise great but the gear lever sensor is bit unreliable. Its adjustment has to be checked regular basis. Cut off times and shifting sensibility is fully programmable with the BT application. It is not pro level gadget but for the every day street use very nice.

Perhaps case deformation does not have significant role in fork shaft bending. Maybe this is something which could be studied little more and make some mad scientist experiments.
Ok. Wanted to test this because old one is sligthly worn already. I made it from case hardened steel with grinding machine. Diameter is the same than original but it is now same all the way. Left one is original and right the new one. There is small centering bores in both ends for grinding machine.

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V&H used to sell optionally solid shift fork shafts (35-0055) with 2nd gear replacement (35-9006). It was replacement for the standard hollow 35434-01K shaft.

Is there still any sense to replace this hollow shaft with the solid one? According to my approximations solid resists bending +20%. Is this really a problem?

I am wondering what was the original reason for this replacement.
Hello everybody,
tell me the store to buy forks for Harley-Davidson sportster 2020?
Hello everybody,
tell me the store to buy forks for Harley-Davidson sportster 2020?
I suggest contacting your local HD dealer. This is V-Rod oriented forum and it might be hard to find that kind of info here.

Also Ronnies Harley microfiches might help you identify what you are looking for:

2020 HD parts

When you have right part number it might be easier to locate parts from the internet.
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I suggest contacting your local HD dealer. This is V-Rod oriented forum and it might be hard to find that kind of info here.

Also Ronnies Harley microfiches might help you identify what you are looking for:

2020 HD parts

When you have right part number it might be easier to locate parts from the internet.
Thanks for the answer.
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