TIvy said:I have been struggeling with the decision-they sound great but 95% of the time that I am riding no one hears them but me and they are a little loud, I have tinitus in one ear already and at times have ringing in both after riding awhile. I do wear earplugs and use a fullface, 3/4 and 1/2 helmet(depends on weather). I don't notice the pipes as much with the open helmets as the wind noise is as loud as the pipes.