Hey if you don't mind funding my trip I will drive out there and let you ride mine as a comparison! I'm in New Hampshire so I would probably need food and lodging for a couple of weeks :rofl2:
sxrxrnr said:I just purchased a new 03 Vrod. Have owned a 03 Heritage for past couple of years.
As noted in another thread, I am having a stalling problem that I hope will go away once I have emptied my first tank of fuel and fill with new fuel.
However another issue that I am uncertain how to deal with is the perceived vibration level of this bike verses that of the Heritage. At any engine speed, whether not moving or cruising I feel a quite noticeable vibration thruout the bike and particularily in the hand grips. If cruising say at 50 mph it is as though an automobile has out of balance wheels or driveshaft. If I disengage the clutch all is well and smooth.
I took bike to the shop where I purchased and had 2 different mechanics and one salesman sit on the bike and run to 3000 rpm. Vibration was quite noticeable but they all agree that it is normal. In the Heritage there is some at idle, but at any engine speed is goes completely away and is smooth.
My question is, is this normal? Perhaps the Heritage is so smooth because of the internal balance shaft, which the Vrod does not have.
Max, in another thread suggested that engine should be smooth and if mine is not, that perhaps my plugs could be somewhat fouled. I guess my real problem is that I do not know what is normal and I am being too critical, but again it is a very severe vibration thru my hands via the grips. I suspect that I need to mount another Vrod to see how it feels.
Thanks to all for any help :vrod:
I do not understand after going through all of the vibration conditions that everyone mentions, why there are so many different vibration conditions at various RPMs, and also having different degrees of the vibration??? The mechanical parts of all of these engines should be the same, and the engine assembly and setup should also be similar for all the engines. How can there be so many various conditions just regarding the vibrations??? Why do I have almost as much vibration from my V Rod at 3,500 RPM as I had on my buzzy sportster??? I had a smooth running engine till it had its first service. Shortly afterwards the vibration appeared, and now the bike is not fun to ride because the mirrors blur, and there is a buzzing through the seat, footpegs and the handgrips. This is definitely an engine condition. With the clutch disengaged the bike is 100% smooth. I had synthetic oil put in, could this have made the difference??? HD customer service said that they have not heard of any complaints regarding vibration. Am I the only one with the vibration problem to call them??? I wonder if there is something other than the mechanical engine parts that can change conditions electrically and cause the vibration to increase or decrease. The mechanical parts CANNOT change themselves, so I believe we have something else causing these various forms of vibrations, and the various changing of the degree of vibrations on the same bike over a short peroid of time. I have not heard about any V Rods having actual mechanical problems, so it appears that we are having electronic problems. If anyone has any ideas about what I have said here please let us hear from you. Collectively, we certainly have as much brain power as HD has at this time regarding the V Rod. Our V Rods are not cheapo bikes, and we do not deserve to have these annoying problems that the dealers or anyone else calls normal. The cheapo bikes out there do not have these various vibration problems, WHY SHOULD WE. Call HD customer service and lets demand that they seriously look into this annoying problem and make a real effort with the dealers to find the problem and correct it. For a bike that is claimed to be the ultimate of technology, is counterbalanced and rubber mounted, we should not be having any problems. Speak up guys.sxrxrnr said:I went to my dealer today and the salesman who sold me the bike said that it feels normal to him when he did a test drive. I then axed to take out their demo bike.
On acceleration it felt the same as mine(both have a Screaming Eagle Exhaust, the demo had a different belt gear), however at cruise the demo was quite smooth where mine the vibration level is much higher and quite severe and felt thru my hands, feet and butt. If I disengage the clutch at say 40 mph on the demo bike, there is a minor improvement in smoothness, if I do so on my bike there is a very pronounced improvement.
So now here I am with four members of their staff(2 mechanics and 2 salesman)telling me all is normal so I am outnumbered and in their eyes out experienced. I do not suppose that their is a vibration meter that can be attached to the bike for a test ride and the results downloaded to a computer for analyses. It is beyond me why they think that my level is normal unless a short ride and not living with for any period of time does not give them a feeling of annoyance that this has on your psyche. If their new auto's shook like this they would be all over their dealer support system.
I also reported again the stalling of the engine. It happened 3 times today, once on the way to the dealer, and twice on the way home. This was my third visit to them on this problem. Oh did I mention my earliest date that bike can be scheduled for an analyses of my problem is April 21st. They suggested that I leave the bike with them, and perhaps they would find time to "squeeze" it in before then. I suppose warranty repairs do not pay well. I purchased the bike brand new 10 days ago and reported the stalling problem the very next day as it stalled a 1/2 dozen times on the way home(10 miles or so). I elected not to leave the bike sun-bathing there for the next few weeks and rode it home. I will report this on the stalling string also.
Just got back from the dealer. The bike was road tested and the vibration was considered normal. Another bike was started on the showroom floor, and in neutral it also had some vibration when revved up. When I road tested the showroom bike on the road, the vibration level was minimal compared to mine. On my bike, when running ( at a steady speed / RPM on the road ) at the RPM where the vibration is at its worst ( 3,500 RPM ), if I back off on the throttle the vibration level is considerably less??? At this time, if I open the throttle for more power, the vibration level increases in proportion to the throttle opening. This in my opinion eliminates the engine itself from being the cause of the worst of the vibration. :banghead: :banghead: . I will now, on my own, start checking what I believe are the possible causes of the vibration. I noticed that when in neutral, and throttled up to 3,500 RPM, the mufflers did quite a vibration / shaking dance of their own. No way to safely check this out under actual riding conditions, but will try a few things along the way, and maybe I will hit on something that will help??? I will check to verify that the throttles are opening at the same time as suggested in several of the threads. Thats it for the moment, but as soon as I check things out and maybe find a reason for the annoying vibration I will post what I have found.KEVINS said:I want to add that I have 250 miles on my 100% stock '03 and at 4000rpm I also have a VERY noticable vibration. I can rev it to around 4000rpm in the drivway and you can feel the entire bike vibrate as if something is out of balance in the motor. The more I rev it the more vibration I get. It runs perfectly fine otherwise.
I may have to see a demo bike to compare it..
Hello again.Al Bachur said:Hi again.
Its too late now to tell about what I have done, but I will be back here tomorrow afternoon or evening.
Drew,vroddrew said:Sorry if this hurts anyones feelings - but IMHO this is the worst thread I've seen on this forum in a long while.
Do us all a favor - and hold off from posting anything more in this thread until such time as you actually find something wrong with your bike.
Yeah - he found out he had a loose exhaust system. I'm sure glad it wasn't the "electronics" that were causing the problem - you know how those electrons bouncing around can be so unpleasant.mjw930 said:but he DID find a problem and has posted a very detailed explanation, one that could help out many who seem to have uncomfortable vibrations.