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Basic Rules For Riding In A Group

1. When you change lanes, go to the far side of the lane so someone else can also change lanes. Example: If you are on the left side of the right lane, when you move to the left lane, go all the way over to the left side of the lane.


2. When coming to a turn on a regular road, (for a twistie road see rule 5) drop into a single file line. You should communicate either before the ride or during the ride with the bike beside you about who is going to go first and who will drop in behind.


3. Learn the hand signals. The basic ones that we use are:

A. Hand tapping top of helmet: There's a cop.

B. Pointing frantically to the ground with hand or foot: There's something in the road on that side.

C. Left arm extended and bent 90 degrees with closed fist: We are about to make a final turn in and stop

D. Left Arm extended and bent 90 degrees with open hand: Right turn.

E. Left arm straight out: Left turn

F. Left arm extended out and slightly waving up and down with open hand: slow down or possible stop.

G. Someone flashing all five fingers of one hand at you: you forgot to turn off your blinker.

H. One leg extended to side of bike: That person is about to change lanes in that direction. (I personally prefer and use blinkers, but you need to know this one.)

I. Pointing to the gas tank: I need gas.

J. Pointing to your stomach: I need food.

K. Pointing at your crotch: "I need a bl*w j*b", also can mean "you can bl*w me" or "right here beeyatch"

L. Doing the Macarena: "I am a moron"

M. Taking pictures while on riding a motorcycle: See "Doing the Macarena"


4. It is not uncool to use your blinkers to change lanes. The first night I rode with a large group, everyone was sticking out their legs and changing lanes. I'm thinking we're cruising between 80 and 140mph so I'm just going to have to look like a dork and use my blinkers just so there is no mistake about what I'm about to do because the last thing I wanted was to get ran over. As soon as I started using my blinkers, half the people in the group did also.


5. When you're on a twisty rode with a group, ride in a single file line and DO NOT ride above you're skill level! I have ridden with many different groups and they always wait at the end of the rode for everyone and usually do a head count to make sure no one went down. Take it easy, we will wait for you, rather than wait for you then bury you.


6. Don't go flying by someone at high speed in the same lane as they are in unless you know them and they have told you that it is ok. Please go by in a different lane.


7. No stunts!!


8. When you first ride with a large group or an unfamiliar group, I suggest you stay in back and on whatever side that has an escape route. You need to be thinking what will I do if someone in front of me goes down. It does happen!


9. When the group puts the hammer down and it comes time for you to decelerate, if you don't brake and just let off the throttle, make sure that you tap your brake a couple of times so that the bikes behind you will know your slowing down.


10. Wear protective gear. At the least you should have a jacket, helmet, gloves, and ankle boots.


11. Make sure your bike is registered and you have a valid license, etc..


12. Be gassed up when we meet.


13. Emergency cards with all of your information and Emergency Contact info. Trust me on this one. It would have helped when Eddie passed, rather then me, Rob, Brett and Freddie telling the cops we didn't know who to call, etc.


14. Occasionally when turning a bike might pull out to turn but in intersection... he is stopping to create a barrier so cars know to stop and allow the group to turn into the road.. be aware for this.....He will then rejoin as the last bike.


15. If you peel off during a group ride let someone know. We’ll be looking for you. It’s a real drag.


16. When following do not focus on person in front of you keep them in peripheral vision and focus ahead. (IE. Don't Target Fixate!)


17. If someone says "I own this road" then trust them. Your two options are that s/he actually knows what they are talking about and you're gonna get hurt if you challenge them, OR this clown has something to prove and is gonna get hurt to prove a point - either way, stay clear


18. It isn't a race. Check your ego at the garage and don't bring it with you. Pushing yourself on public streets is irresponsible and will get you killed. You don't have the right to endanger other people, if someone is slower than you then pass on a straight, if you are slower then let yourself be passed.


19. Pictures are cool, we all like to see ourselves in photos. ASK before posting to the web and never, ever, ever take photos of someone's license plate. The last thing you want is a friend in trouble with the girlfriend he told he was visiting his sick aunt, when a picture pops up with him on the web.


If there is an accident..

A) Don't' move the rider unless he cannot breath/impeded helmet in water puddle. mud etc.. (helmet came off something in his mouth)..then keep the neck straight as possible..

B) Know CPR.

C) do not pull out anything impaled braches etc... leave them in as pulling them out you may allow more bleeding

D) know how to use a tourniquet.

E) Call an ambulance be on safe side.

F) Search for emergency card inside jacket inside or under seat.

G) Turn off bike. shut off lanes of traffic place bike in lanes etc if necessary....

H) Find out where they are taking rider.

I) When cops show up.. Have a plan on what you’re going to tell them, as a group. Everyone has to agree on what you’re going to say. That's all I'm going to say about this.

J) Don't' take off helmet!! Make sure it goes with them to hospital for docs.
Keep talking to them if concussed etc.. don't' let them get up etc..

K) Use your head.
 

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Great summary. I might add that MSF publishes group riding guides {HERE} that road captains can use to help sync up a group of riders.
 

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Thanks, that was a good read. If only some of the people i rode with before would read this. I can remember one guy following me through the twisties all over my back tire. I had to let him know that wasn't cool. I don't like telling others how to ride but it needs to be done before the ride.
 

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Good advice.
I always look when moving in my own lane in case another rider is hidden from my perif.If I want to ride next to another bike in his lane I make sure they know I'm coming.I normally ride staggered,just incase.
Turn signals.:thumb:

About the gas,great northerns really gas me up.:helpme:



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Good "common sense " rules that everyone should know before a group ride. I personally like to run a quicker pace when I lead down curvy roads (not dangerous), a pace that I can maintain without using brakes before curves and not speeding up to ridiculous speeds on the straightaways. However, that doesn't mean that everyone has to run that same pace, I always wait at the end of the road when there is a turn onto other roads or change of direction and make sure everyone arrives safely. It's only common sense that we all have different skill levels and that riding bikes is about having fun. I have been on rides with beginners that get upset if you ride faster than they feel safe when nobody expects them to keep up, we'll wait down the road. Never ride over your head trying to keep up, specially through curves and never try to promote that with less experianced riders. Of course this is pretty much through "fun" curves that most experianced riders feel comfortable riding a little faster pace through. To me riding down to the slowest rider's pace takes alot of the fun out of the ride, but thats IMHO and I might be wrong for some groups.
Great rules and I'm glad you put these up. Everyone should be on the same page in a ride. The best rides can be fun for all but if anyone gets hurt or feels uncomfortable than the ride SUCKS, big time.
 

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Thanks for the info i can not wait to do my first ride
 

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Great post!
 

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Great Read
 

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Thanks
 

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THis is great. THanks for posting.
 

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Why is it that people seem to never be gassed up?

I know that gets me everytime when you get that one person who starts pointing at their gas tank and we are only 30 miles into the ride....no common sense
 

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One question on etiquette. My wife and I were riding on a back hiway today and came up on a group of about 10 riders. Is it ok to join in the group or is that like climbing in a strangers car and saying lets go for a ride. Or are all bikers like one big happy family and it is expected that you join the group. Not knowing for sure we just hung back about 2 car lengths.
 

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7. If you want to stunt, go out front and every one try to pick one or two lanes to stunt in. Most experienced stunters do this, this is for the inexperienced. It is much better to get in front before you do a wheelie, etc. Riding up through a pack on your rear wheel is not the safest thing in the world.

Yaknow, I have to speak up on this one. If your going to post stuff up for riding on the street, this one needs to be eliminated and mods what is your take on it?

I was censored awhile back about street racing, and then seeing someone die doing it, but yet this gets posted up in front of over 10,000 forum members....for what? to say it is okay to do this stuff?

A line about "if yer gonna be a squid..." needs to be put into #7 somewhere...but wait, there is more....

We know there are idiots out there and we have seen them on vid clips in the movie section, seen them while riding and then seen them get wiped out on the street in person as well as seeing the stuff rehashed out in the vid clips, taking someone else possibly with them and worse possibly maiming them in some form that means a long if possible rehab.

I have to ask, if that part is left to stand out here, that there should be an addition to the sentence "Only idiots and cripples stunt out in the street, which are you?" added to the first listed addition to this Group Riding, Road Etiquette thread.

Thats why they make tracks and Track Days.

Thats where it should be done.

Apply that to the sentence too, if yer gonna, "track it, it ain't cool on the street!"

If yer gonna do it, go to a controlled environment, maybe an abandoned airstrip, or huge parking lot, whatever, I for one don't appreciate in the street.

For other forums it might be okay, but here......plkease do not thinkj I am raging or flaming you either, its not about thtat, its about riding on 2 wheels in groups.

The deal I posted about a year back about street racing, we had a spot on Thursday nights in Cleveland back in the mid 70's, Harbor Inn. They'd set chrondeks up and run till they'd hit a crowned road junction (about a foot or a little higher at its center from the incoming/outgoing road) launch sometimes on the rear wheel at speeds around 70 or so, with a bridge abutment on the far right side of the crowned interscetion. if you came off wrong, you did wall time after hitting the sidewalk, and a streetracer did so. It was not pretty, and in front of maybe 300 - 400 bikers.

The place drained of all the rats like on a sinking ship, all the rats down the line to a safe haven somewhere, far away.

Well the next Thursday came, and everybody shows up like nothing happened, and so did the cops around 8 or so, shutting down the exit routes and then the fire trucks showed up, they made their statement, and so did the folks riding. The next Thursday, the bar was dead, and the owner stocked with tons of stuff to sell but no biz.

Riding in groups became a hassle, as the tag numbers went out, and what occured over time was an evenly applied pressure. You could ride, but group riding became difficult if not a major waste of time behind bars. And it went out into the burbs 35- 40 from town, like a stink you could not shed.

You off'd your bike for another, or had a few to rotate from a stable so you could group ride without fear of the blue lite special.

I think perhaps there are more that can be improved on and it is a great start for people to use, do any think the 4 door 4 wheel driving public would get it if this were somehow put in mainstream mags by perhaps the AMA on behalf of Amercian motorcycle riders?

Any AMA members here?

Sorry if I jacked the thread in a few different ways.....
 

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I got this from a sportbike sight a few years ago...I will remove #7 didn't even think about it. That is one of the reasons I stopped riding sportbikes is because of all of the idiots stunting on public roads...sorry about that
 

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The only thing I would like to add as a Road Captain we let the group know that we dont break MV laws like block traffic. We also let them know that the posted speed limit is followed plus or minus 5 MPH. We do this for the saftey of the group. We had a problem with a rider who wanted to ride like they were in a parade and looking at everything. We ended up with a car passing us in a no passing zone an pulling into the group when another car was comming at him head on. The other part is the ride leaders speedo is the only correct one durring the trip.

Safety for the entire group must be first and foremost. No rule is set in stone if breaking it makes for a safer ride.
 
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