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I am getting retuned tomorrow. Hopefully I'll have something to share with you other FORCE pipers. Last time they just dumped a drag bike map in which was great from 7 to 10,000 rpm but not for overall riding. I'm driving across state to " the best " wish me luck.

 

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Weather not a problem I'm trailering.
TBAG809, I'm running the race tuner. I've heard the maps can not be converted to the power commander.

 

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Who are you referring to as "the best"? I live between Baton Rouge and New Orleans.

Skin at Cajun Harley. He was referred to me by my mechanic Rick.
Rick is in the process of setting up his own shop (with dyno) in Shreveport. Rick has been the top tuner in the area for a while but was stuck behind a desk as the stealers service manager. He won't be up and running till March and he was afraid my map was causing damage. It was running way too rich while cruising getting way too much fuel in the oil. He said it needed imediate attention and said Skin was the only one he would recommend.

 

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What a trip. Never haul a high top enclosed trailer during a downpour terd floater with Micky Thompson street slicks on your truck. Anyway, drove down friday night, got there about two. Some loud ass kids checked in next to me about three. I thought I had talked to Skin the day before and made an appointment with him. He had no idea who I was. Turns out I had talked to Skinner the gm. Oh well, standing by the bike with the key hanging out Skin asks me if I brought my key. UUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHH huh? The key I HAVE to have to tune your bike. You mean that little wiring harness I got in the kit? Yep. Damn.
Any way, had a buddy going down today and he's taking it. So far nothings gone right but a well tuned bike will make it all worthwhile.

 

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Just got off the phone with Skin. He said the first run made 122hp but it needs serious tuning in the mid range. I'll TRY to post the sheets when I get them.

 

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Yes that is a dyno run at the rear wheel. The things stock with Force pipes and high flow filter and race tuner. It had a drag bike map dumped in it that made it awsome at 7 to 10 grand but putting around it ran like duke. Skin has to start from scratch because shreveport harley would not give him the drag map.

 

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122 HP Okie? That's bitchin'! I'm lookin' forward to seeing what your map looks like!

Me too. The bad thing is after he made that run he had to wipe the map and start over. Shreveport Harley dumped that map in and claims they no longer have it. And theres no way of retreiving info from the race tuner (that sucks).Skins building his own and said he was back up to 119. Tony at Shreveport did tell me his map was just fuel/air.

Hope he gets that other 3 back.


Skin did say these pipes suck at midrange. I told him do the best he can.

 

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What kind of dyno? Jesus! 122hp stock with just the pipes and filter . If it is reproducible on another dyno I'm getting Force pipes STAT even if I don't dig the look of the shorties they'll grow on me, I'll use earplugs. I didn't wanna bother everybody since they say so very loud but at that kind of power how can I refuse?

Here's a graph of what Steve got out of them but I don't know if a PCIIIr or RT was used.

It's a Dynojet. I'm running Force longs maybe the added length makes a difference? I like the looks better also. The noise doesn't bother me, added length? I do where a full face also.
http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2096&stc=1

 

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I hope your not saying what I think you are

10K redline?????? Let's see the graphs because I don't buy those numbers with just Force Pipes. Sorry, but no one else is seeing numbers this high and there's some pretty good tuners out there.

BTW Kevin, take that 102 hp Factory Pro number and multiply it by 1.15, that's what a DynoJet 200/250 will read. (I check it and it's withing 0.1hp) = 117.3 hp. Very nice, best I saw was 101hp on the Factory Pro.

I have no reason to lie. As soon as I get the sheets they will be posted. I'm just sharing the info I'm getting. Is my tuner lieing? I don't see why he would.
The rev limiter was set at over 11 grand on the first map.

 

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I did lie. I just got off the phone with Skin. It was 121 and he's faxing the sheet within the hour. It will probably take me about that to scan it and post it (hope not).
He was said he thought his machine may have been off after this run but it checked out fine.
Maybe I'm just lucky . :460:

 

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I'm just dying to see this dyno sheet. Power @ 10K? Not with stock cams, no way. The V-Rod starts losing HP after about 8500 rpm.

That 7 to 10 k was just me trying to describe how the bike ran. Not dyno numbers.

 

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10K redline?????? Let's see the graphs because I don't buy those numbers with just Force Pipes. Sorry, but no one else is seeing numbers this high and there's some pretty good tuners out there.

BTW Kevin, take that 102 hp Factory Pro number and multiply it by 1.15, that's what a DynoJet 200/250 will read. (I checked it and it's withing 0.1hp) = 117.3 hp. Very nice, best I saw was 101hp on the Factory Pro.

This is the shreveport map run. Skin said it was so lean at 4k it should have burned a hole in the piston.

Thanks Max, Should have looked but I was busy trying to figure out a way.

 

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What kind of dyno? QUOTE]

Dynojet 250 with load control and oxygen sniffer

 

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He said the best he's had was 114 before. He said he thinks I have a bore kit. But I don't.

 

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Awesome!
Longs do look much better to me also.

Heres a better look.

 

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I know, its higher than normal #s. I think its the one TWENTY mark thats freaking eveyone out. Yet 117 is perfectly acceptable.

 

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I will have everything checked out in March on a brand new dyno setup here in Shreveport.

 

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I'd wait till I double check

Man, I hope I can get numbers like that! I'm going to try and take my bike down this week to get a baseline dyno with it stock, and then get it tuned the following week with the Force pipes and the filter. I'll post soon as I have the dyno print outs.

These guys are giving me doubts. Let me double check before you go out spending money on these pipes.

 

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OKIE,
Your Air Box?What have you done to it?Stock,Topless,Modded?I have spent more time on the dyno then most and don't feel your numbers are accurate for what you have No matter what you say.Keep that Tune up and take it to 3 different dyno's for just a rwhp run.If it breaks 120 in to of the 3 I will be towing my bike personally to you incredible tuners!This 5 rwhp more then the closes stock setup I have heard.My 120+rwhp runs were with oxygenated gas there's NO FU(KING WAY you did that with that setup on pump gas! :bs:

I ran topless. I don't know what he's doing. He may be running it naked (no filter). I will have all this checked on another dyno. I'll go to ten of em if you would like to finance it rich boy.

 

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OK There must be something going on here. You all can't be wrong. Even the tuner can't believe it. The only explaination he can figure is a bore kit. I am not the original owner but he is a friend of mine and there is no bore kit. Skin is adiment about his equipment being calibrated. So I'm stumped also. But I promise you I will never do anything to add confusion to our forum.