[johnr204]

Purchased the Budman riser kit. Extremely pleased with fit, finish and where it moves the bars to. For me (6'2" 230lbs) the handlebars were VERY awkward. This kit fixed that, and when done looks like it belongs there. Quality parts, attention to detail. The riser kit I would HIGHLY recommend, if that's what your lookin for. 2015 Muscle, VRSCF

 

[Hanz327]

I just bought a 2016 Muscle a few days ago. What exactly does the riser do?

 

[flybigjet]

The Budman riser brings the bars up AND back.

IMHO, it’s the single best thing you can do to your bike. MUCH more comfortable.

You can also bolt on a late model DX visor with the Budman and it looks factory.

 

[flybigjet]

I had to go to the Wayback machine to find the numbers, but while not exact, Budman's riser gives you approximately 2.5" of pullback and 0.75" of rise from the stock position.

In doing so, you don't need to cut any wires or move/disconnect any hoses. It's similar to the H-D "Reduced Reach" kit that was offered on the F a looooong time ago-- but with the Budman, you keep the stock bars.

I was going to sell my bike due to the riding position, but Budman solved that, so I'm a fan.

R.

 

[Hanz327]

Where can I find a visor? Just ask the dealer?

 

[flybigjet]

Where can I find a visor? Just ask the dealer?

Sure-- that'll work..... if you're *completely* computer illiterate and want to pay full price after being gouged by the dealer.

Here's how you do it....

Go to Ronnie's and look at their PartsFinder: http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/ronnies/showmodel.asp?make=hdmc

Then, look up "VRSCDX" for model years 2012-2017.

Each model year has the visor in different colors, so you'll have to look at each year (2017-2016-2015-2014-2013-2012) to find the color you want-- I think there's even a chrome one in there.

From there, you'll get the part number.

Use that part number to search for the cheapest price online. I'm partial to Newcastle, but their shipping is expensive so they're only a really good deal if you order a bunch of parts.

If you are installing on an F WITH a Budman's riser, you'll also need the two mounting bolts that go in from the front-- they're a bit longer than the stock F bolts. It's a complete "plug and play" with no modifications to the bike required.

Oh-- leave the little wire cover that Budman supplies on-- that will cover up the wires, and the DX visor will cover up the cover.

True story: ran into a guy a while back who had a new (to him), bone-stock F. We coincidentally parked next to each other, and got to chatting. He sat on my bike (mostly to feel the Bitchin' Seat), but just Could. Not. Figure. Out why my bike felt so much different. Finally, I showed him the Budman riser and he was completely blown away-- he thought the bike was stock, and didn't even notice it with the DX visor on.

Another true story: had the bike in for something minor at the dealer (under warranty), and the tech took it out for a test ride after working on it. He came back and said that it handled and felt completely different than an F and he knew that I'd done something to it, but he couldn't figure it out. He could see the rear springs, but missed the Traxxion stickers on the bottom of the forks and most importantly, completely missed the Budman riser. His attitude after I showed it to him was that they should install it on every F on the showroom-- he thought they'd sell a ton more because it made the riding position so much more comfortable.

R.

 

[Hanz327]

Thanks for the help, I’m going to try and order tonight.

Any idea if this all works with the F windshield?

Or if any other of the windshields will fit? I heard the F windshield was a little short.

 

[flybigjet]

Thanks for the help, I’m going to try and order tonight.

Any idea if this all works with the F windshield?

Or if any other of the windshields will fit? I heard the F windshield was a little short.

Do I have "any idea" if this works with the F windshield?"

You funny guy.


If you're talking about the F shield, yes you can make it work with both the visor and the Budman-- that's exactly how I have it setup-- shield, DX visor and Budman's.

You'll need a windshield kit from Budman (or at least his upper extenders). I used his extension pegs (the parts that clip into the handlebar) but I didn't use his lower extensions-- I fabricated mine myself and made them a little more "factory" looking.

Look at these links to get an idea what I'm talking about.....

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3308633&postcount=308

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4027498&postcount=546

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4027514&postcount=548

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413426&d=1425942212

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413418&d=1425942212

The DX shield would also work if you set it up this way-- that would require fabrication of the mounts as well. As for differences between the F and DX shield, that would be a personal decision.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

R.

 

[Hanz327]

I read that guys said their helmets stuck above the top of the F windshield into the air stream causing a lot of helmet buffeting. One guy said he felt like a bobblehead after a long ride.

Have you had any issues like this?

Can you share a few pictures of your windshield/visor setup?

 

[flybigjet]

Can you share a few pictures of your windshield/visor setup?

You didn't look at the links, did you?

 

[Hanz327]

I looked at all of them but the pictures I saw looked like it was a different windshield than the stock F one.

 

[Hanz327]

I didn’t read all of them, one was 78 pages, hard to read all that at work!

 

[flybigjet]

I read that guys said their helmets stuck above the top of the F windshield into the air stream causing a lot of helmet buffeting. One guy said he felt like a bobblehead after a long ride.

Have you had any issues like this?

This is sort of a personal thing as there are a lot of variables.

Stock seat position or aftermarket seat position, torso length, arm length, helmet type, Budman riser or stock handlebar position, windscreen modification, windscreen type/height all contribute-- each person is probably going to have a different answer based on their personal combination.

For my PERSONAL setup (and that's with a custom Bitchin' Seat, long torso, long arms, stock windscreen, Budman Riser, CUSTOM screen extenders and a very good Shoei helmet-- I don't have a lot of problem. For me, the difference was that I have not only Budman's windscreen adaptors, I have 3.25" extenders on them; that pushes the stock screen forward a bit more which gets the turbulent air off of the top of my helmet.

I've experimented with the stock shield, short Budman extenders, long extenders and larger Rifle screen-- and combinations of all of the above.

The one I came up with works for ME-- your personal milage may vary.

That being said, I have a BMW R1200GS that I use for longer rides-- the F is really only a "ride around town" bike nowadays and unless I'm riding around Sturgis, I don't even have a shield on it at all.

R.

 

[flybigjet]

I didn’t read all of them, one was 78 pages, hard to read all that at work!

The links were to individual posts that were pertinent to the discussion.

 

[flybigjet]

I looked at all of them but the pictures I saw looked like it was a different windshield than the stock F one.

Some of the pictures have the larger Rifle screen, some don't.

I'm back to the stock screen now, what H-D call the Compact Mid-Sport Windscreen.

These are all pictures-- the last two are of the Rifle shield.

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=306137&d=1383339278

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=306145&d=1383339278

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=306153&d=1383339278

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=306161&d=1383339278

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=306185&d=1383339536

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413434&d=1425942212

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413458&d=1425942616

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413482&d=1425942616

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413490&d=1425942616

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413498&d=1425942616

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413418&d=1425942212

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=413426&d=1425942212

 

[Hanz327]

Thanks for the help. I’m in kind of a hurry because I just bought my F seven days ago and I’m trying to get road ready for a trip from Ohio to DC with my buddies for Rolling Thunder Memorial weekend. The longest I’ve ridden my CBR is 3 hours and the last 1.5 was awful. So this longer ride thing will be new to me since it’s about a 6.5 hour trip from Ohio.

You must fly? I flew the Herk in the Air Force. Thinking about applying for the airlines.

 

[flybigjet]

Thanks for the help. I’m in kind of a hurry because I just bought my F seven days ago and I’m trying to get road ready for a trip from Ohio to DC with my buddies for Rolling Thunder Memorial weekend. The longest I’ve ridden my CBR is 3 hours and the last 1.5 was awful. So this longer ride thing will be new to me since it’s about a 6.5 hour trip from Ohio.

You must fly? I flew the Herk in the Air Force. Thinking about applying for the airlines.

Get the Budman. Period. Your neck and spine will thank you.

If you have a H-D shield, go with Budman's extensions. As a short term fix if nothing else.

Worst case? Budman and no shield-- the clean air and a decent helmet aren't all that bad. I ride the bike to/from the airport a lot like that for One Day trips.

R.

PS: Yes, I flew Fred for 27 years (7 AD, 20 AFRES). Been flying for the airlines a bit over 20 years now.

 

[Hanz327]

Ok maybe it’s an outlandish question, but I’m wondering if anyone thinks it’s possible to heat the F model handlebar in an autoclave or with a torch and bend it back in lieu of the budman riser?

Maybe it might change wrist geometry and make it uncomfortable?

 

[flybigjet]

Ok maybe it’s an outlandish question, but I’m wondering if anyone thinks it’s possible to heat the F model handlebar in an autoclave or with a torch and bend it back in lieu of the budman riser?

Maybe it might change wrist geometry and make it uncomfortable?

Personally? Bad idea.

I think that would very possibly weaken the bar-- which might just put you in line for a Darwin Award.

Additionally, as you pointed out-- the wrist geometry would be all wonky and I'd think it would be basically unrideable.

Personally, it sounds like you're trying to come up with a solution to a problem that's already been worked, and worked and worked again.

I'd say your options are a) Budman, b) finding a New-Old-Stock or used F "reduced reach" bar kit, c) finding a set of Burleigh Bars or d) figuring out a riser and new bar that will work with it (which will make you have to figure out how to mount the gauge cluster).

Of them all, the Budman is by far the easiest, imho and keeps the look of the stock bars (which I think is one of the strong points of the bike).

Here's a link that might..... might give you a few more options: http://www.grcustoms.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=297_310