[maverick.m]

I just purchased/installed an aftermarket angel eye style LED headlight for my 2015 muscle. Bought this one on Amazon and fairly pleased with the quality (although I think the price could have been somewhat lower)...

Link to the one I purchase:
https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Headlight-Harley-Davidson-Chrome/dp/B0773LBLQL

Question:
1. Did anyone else on this forum already install one of these previously? If yes, do you have an installation video (or just instructions)?

2. I completed the installation (on my own) and the thing seems to work fine, but the instructions provided with the item were incorrect and NOT very helpful...

3. I had to strip a (high-beam) wire where the angel eye wire was tied into.. Is this correct? The plastic pieces I received (that looked like they'd attach both wires together) were practically useless..

4. Somehow my low-beam (with the angel eye) seems to be brighter than my high-beam light.. So pics/vids of your current setup might be more helpful to me.

5. I can't figure out how to tighten/lock the headlight in place.. Even though I used the provided washers, the headlight seems NOT very secure. What did you guys use?

6. With this "Angel Eye" headlight installed, what should happen when in the "ACC" mode? I was hoping to see the "Angel Eye" only part of the light in this mode but the headlight remained completely OFF...

Help appreciated.

Thanks for your time.
Max

 

[2009 vrscf]

I have the version without the angel eye. eBay for $90. Looks like all these lights no matter who sells them are made by the same factory in China. Ditch the star washers that came with it. Had the same problem with mine. Without the washers you can get it tight enough where it takes a fair amount of pressure to move it. It will never be as tight as the stock one was. As far as brightness, the 4 single D shape lenses are your low beams and the circular ones are your highs. When I shine the bright against my garage it looks more like a spot light but on the road at night it works great.

Use some blue Loctite on the bolts that hold the light onto the bracket.

 

[maverick.m]

I have the version without the angel eye. eBay for $90. Looks like all these lights no matter who sells them are made by the same factory in China. Ditch the star washers that came with it. Had the same problem with mine. Without the washers you can get it tight enough where it takes a fair amount of pressure to move it. It will never be as tight as the stock one was. As far as brightness, the 4 single D shape lenses are your low beams and the circular ones are your highs. When I shine the bright against my garage it looks more like a spot light but on the road at night it works great.

Use some blue Loctite on the bolts that hold the light onto the bracket.

Yeah, the star washers are useless.. I don't remember what the stock headlight did in "ACC" mode. What does your current headlight do when in the "ACC" mode?

Thanks for the reply mate. Appreciate your time...

 

[2009 vrscf]

Yeah, the star washers are useless.. I don't remember what the stock headlight did in "ACC" mode. What does your current headlight do when in the "ACC" mode?

Thanks for the reply mate. Appreciate your time...

It does nothing when in acc mode. That angel eye ring I think is intended to be a daytime running lamp. Would think that would get connected to the regular beam hot lead and not the high beam but just my opinion. One thing with those China harnesses is you can easily accidentky reverse the polarity of the plug. Had an issue with mine when my dealer did some work and reversed the wiring and caught the harness on fire. Harley sells the jumper wire for the headlight and high beam which plugs into the main harness for about $18. I hard wired mine in into the jumper harness so there is no way in the future anyone working on the bike can reverse the polarity. I also wrapped the entire harness in black electrical tape as I hated seeing the black and red wires of the headlamp harness looking through the opening

 

[johnr204]

I bought a similar light with the AE. I too tied the AE wire in with LO beam. Then, when I turned HI on the AE went off. So, im not an electrical guy, but I know one and this is what he had me do. On left side of bike, under the front panel that attaches to airbox, remove that. Follow the light harness back to the connector that ties into main wiring harness on bike. Look closely on both sides of connector. Youll notice on bike side there are 4 wires. On headlight side there are 3. Go to HD dealer and purchase the little metal thingy that goes into the plastic connector. My dealer had them in stock. .52 cents each. Anyhow, connect a wire to that and slide it into the back of the plastic connector where 4th wire is on bike side. Connect that to the AE wire. VIOLA!!!!!!! Now the AE will be on all the time. With keyswitch in acc position, only AE will come on. Keyswitch in run position the AE will be on no matter HI or LO is selected. I asked how to have only AE on during daylight riding. Short version of the answer, possible, but not easy. I tried to post a pic or 2, but have no idea what the url is for my pic and drag and drop didnt work. Like a said, im no rocket scientist. Hope this helps, and good luck.

 

[MotorMike]

The electrical connector (metal thingy) is part #73191-96. On my Road Glide with Daymakers the HD portion would light up when the ignition was turned to accessory. Looked nice but not of much use. Thanks for the write up.

 

[maverick.m]

I bought a similar light with the AE. I too tied the AE wire in with LO beam. Then, when I turned HI on the AE went off. So, im not an electrical guy, but I know one and this is what he had me do. On left side of bike, under the front panel that attaches to airbox, remove that. Follow the light harness back to the connector that ties into main wiring harness on bike. Look closely on both sides of connector. Youll notice on bike side there are 4 wires. On headlight side there are 3. Go to HD dealer and purchase the little metal thingy that goes into the plastic connector. My dealer had them in stock. .52 cents each. Anyhow, connect a wire to that and slide it into the back of the plastic connector where 4th wire is on bike side. Connect that to the AE wire. VIOLA!!!!!!! Now the AE will be on all the time. With keyswitch in acc position, only AE will come on. Keyswitch in run position the AE will be on no matter HI or LO is selected. I asked how to have only AE on during daylight riding. Short version of the answer, possible, but not easy. I tried to post a pic or 2, but have no idea what the url is for my pic and drag and drop didnt work. Like a said, im no rocket scientist. Hope this helps, and good luck.

Thanks for the reply mate.. Yes, the AE wire connects to the low beam. Your explanation helps. I will look into this and get back to this thread.

If someone has made a tutorial of their setup, I'm sure every member of this forum would be interested/appreciate the help.

Thanks again!

 

[johnr204]

I tried posting pics, but no clue how. If anyone could walk me through it, that may help ya out.

 

[maverick.m]

I tried posting pics, but no clue how. If anyone could walk me through it, that may help ya out.

When you reply, click on the symbol that looks like a "paper clip". Once the attachment dialog opens up, just choose the pictures you want to attach (each separately) and that's about it...

 

[schwingding]

About to install mine - couldn't follow your text based "how to" would SUPER appreciate some pics. Thx!

 

[stever975]

About to install mine - couldn't follow your text based "how to" would SUPER appreciate some pics. Thx!

I don't think pictures are necessary but here are some things I found when installing the AE version on a 2002 VRSCA.

I used the star washers. I'll admit that these were a pain to install but these helped in preventing headlight rotation.

The version I purchased came with polarity switching harnesses for the LOW and HIGH beam connectors that can be used to switch polarity if necessary. Since the HIGH beam uses all the LEDs, if you hook up either connector backwards, you'll blow the LIGHTS fuse because this circuit will connect to ground. I found on my bike that the LOW beam required one of these polarity harnesses but instead of using the harness, I took the connector apart and switched the wires.

I connected the AE wire to the VRSC blue "LIGHTS" circuit wire so it stays on in both LOW and HIGH beam positions. This also keeps everything on the same fuse circuit.

The domestic VRSC models don't power the LIGHTS circuit when the ignition switch is in ACC mode. The international models use the ACCY circuit to power the running and license plate lights so these will illuminate with the ignition switch set to ACC.

Not only would an additional switch be needed (to turn on the headlights), it isn't legal in the US (or anywhere else I know of) to use the AE only while riding.

 

[schwingding]

I don't think pictures are necessary but here are some things I found when installing the AE version on a 2002 VRSCA.

I used the star washers. I'll admit that these were a pain to install but these helped in preventing headlight rotation.

The version I purchased came with polarity switching harnesses for the LOW and HIGH beam connectors that can be used to switch polarity if necessary. Since the HIGH beam uses all the LEDs, if you hook up either connector backwards, you'll blow the LIGHTS fuse because this circuit will connect to ground. I found on my bike that the LOW beam required one of these polarity harnesses but instead of using the harness, I took the connector apart and switched the wires.

I connected the AE wire to the VRSC blue "LIGHTS" circuit wire so it stays on in both LOW and HIGH beam positions. This also keeps everything on the same fuse circuit.

The domestic VRSC models don't power the LIGHTS circuit when the ignition switch is in ACC mode. The international models use the ACCY circuit to power the running and license plate lights so these will illuminate with the ignition switch set to ACC.

Not only would an additional switch be needed (to turn on the headlights), it isn't legal in the US (or anywhere else I know of) to use the AE only while riding.

Well I had not seen this valuable reply and guess what I did? Blew a fuse. Which of those leads is the hi-beam? Looking at the lamp from behind, is the high on the left or right? Are you saying I should not need the adapters that came with the lamp? I'm on a 2011 VRSCF but do have the service manual with the lighting schematic. I am not unfamiliar with the wiring on this bike but don't want to blow more fuses. Thx in advance.

 

[stever975]

Well I had not seen this valuable reply and guess what I did? Blew a fuse. Which of those leads is the hi-beam? Looking at the lamp from behind, is the high on the left or right? Are you saying I should not need the adapters that came with the lamp? I'm on a 2011 VRSCF but do have the service manual with the lighting schematic. I am not unfamiliar with the wiring on this bike but don't want to blow more fuses. Thx in advance.

The OEM head lamp bulbs are wired separately and are incandescent so polarity doesn't matter. These can be assembled with the wires flipped in either direction and the lights will still work. I'm guessing these are OEM assembled without concern for where the wires were placed.

The LED lights are polarity sensitive and internally connected so hot needs to go to hot and ground to ground for both HIGH and LOW beam connectors. When you go to plug in your bikes H9 and H11 connectors to the LED headlamp connectors you'll notice these will only fit one way. If the black wire in the bikes connector isn't lined up with the black wire on the head lamp connector, you'll need the polarity switching harness for that connection. The red wires on the headlamp connectors will line up with either a yellow wire (LOW beam) or a white wire (HIGH beam) when oriented correctly. I only needed one of these polarity switching harnesses (on the H11 LOW beam) but you may need both.

I don't remember which connector on the LED headlamp was high and low. I think the LOW beam is the one with the extra AE wire next to it. You can figure that out after you get the polarity right and you test the lamps. If hooked up correctly and switched to low beam, only the lower "D" shaped lights should be on and when switched to HIGH beam these and the three upper projector lights will also light up.

 

[2009 vrscf]

The OEM head lamp bulbs are wired separately and are incandescent so polarity doesn't matter. These can be assembled with the wires flipped in either direction and the lights will still work. I'm guessing these are OEM assembled without concern for where the wires were placed.

The LED lights are polarity sensitive and internally connected so hot needs to go to hot and ground to ground for both HIGH and LOW beam connectors. When you go to plug in your bikes H9 and H11 connectors to the LED headlamp connectors you'll notice these will only fit one way. If the black wire in the bikes connector isn't lined up with the black wire on the head lamp connector, you'll need the polarity switching harness for that connection. The red wires on the headlamp connectors will line up with either a yellow wire (LOW beam) or a white wire (HIGH beam) when oriented correctly. I only needed one of these polarity switching harnesses (on the H11 LOW beam) but you may need both.

I don't remember which connector on the LED headlamp was high and low. I think the LOW beam is the one with the extra AE wire next to it. You can figure that out after you get the polarity right and you test the lamps. If hooked up correctly and switched to low beam, only the lower "D" shaped lights should be on and when switched to HIGH beam these and the three upper projector lights will also light up.

On most of these China led headlamps the harness pigtail can fit in either direction. If you don't have the black wires lined up from the led harness to the stock harness see if you can just reverse the pigtail. Pain in the arse if you have someone work on your bike later and they reverse the wires. For $18 I got the Oem pigtail that has the headlight connectors and connects to the main harness under the left side air box cover and clipped the connectors and hard wired my led light wiring to it so it can never be reversed by accident. My Harley dealer reversed it when I had my steering head bearings replaced and it did not pop the fuse when I hit the high beam, instead it caught the Chinese harness on fire from the short. I could have lost the bike if the fire spread! They actually bought me the replacement harness and I hard wired it so it can never happen again.

 

[schwingding]

Got it all done, thanks guys!

 

[orlasTToy]

pix peeps!

 

[schwingding]

Really digging the pattern and brightness. No regrets dumping the HIDs.