2008 Harley Davidson Rocker
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FXCWC Rocker C features:
Rigid-mount, 1584cc Twin Cam 96B balanced engine
6-speed Cruise Drive transmission
Black powdercoated engine with chrome covers
Chrome Shorty Dual mufflers with slash-cut outlets
Finned cast-aluminum oil tank
240 mm-18-inch rear / 90 mm-19-inch front tire
Polished Cast Aluminum Tapered Five Spoke 19-inch front/18-inch rear wheels
Rockertail rear section
Stretched fuel tank with recessed cloisonné medallion
Trick seat with concealed passenger pillion
Independent V-Bar handlebar on five-inch curved risers
Console-mounted speed shop style speedometer
Color-matched frame, swingarm and oil tank
Chrome fork lowers, headlamp, console, speedometer and other components
Integrated LED rear turn indicators/tail/brake lamps
Deluxe pinstripe flames standard
Optional Smart Security System
Rigid-mount, 1584cc Twin Cam 96B balanced engine
6-speed Cruise Drive transmission
Black powdercoated engine with chrome covers
Chrome Shorty Dual mufflers with slash-cut outlets
Finned cast-aluminum oil tank
240 mm-18-inch rear / 90 mm-19-inch front tire
Polished Cast Aluminum Tapered Five Spoke 19-inch front/18-inch rear wheels
Rockertail rear section
Stretched fuel tank with recessed cloisonné medallion
Trick seat with concealed passenger pillion
Independent V-Bar handlebar on five-inch curved risers
Console-mounted speed shop style speedometer
Color-matched frame, swingarm and oil tank
Chrome fork lowers, headlamp, console, speedometer and other components
Integrated LED rear turn indicators/tail/brake lamps
Deluxe pinstripe flames standard
Optional Smart Security System
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FXCW Rocker features:
Rigid-mount, 1584cc Twin Cam 96B balanced engine
6-speed Cruise Drive transmission
Silver powdercoated engine with Satin Stainless Metallic powdercoat covers
Chrome Shorty Dual exhaust with new slash bend
Finned cast-aluminum, horseshoe oil tank
240mm-18 rear / 90 mm-19 front tire
Satin Stainless Metallic powdercoat Cast Aluminum Tapered Five Spoke
19-inch front / 18-inch rear wheels
Rockertail rear section
Stretched fuel tank with recessed medallion
Solo saddle
V-Bar handlebar on five-inch curved risers
Console-mounted Speed Shop speedometer
Satin Stainless Metallic powdercoat fork lowers, oil tank, headlamp bucket, swingarm and other components
Integrated LED rear turn indicators/tail/brake lamps
Color-matched frame
Vivid Black paint with pinstripe flames option
Optional Smart Security System
Rigid-mount, 1584cc Twin Cam 96B balanced engine
6-speed Cruise Drive transmission
Silver powdercoated engine with Satin Stainless Metallic powdercoat covers
Chrome Shorty Dual exhaust with new slash bend
Finned cast-aluminum, horseshoe oil tank
240mm-18 rear / 90 mm-19 front tire
Satin Stainless Metallic powdercoat Cast Aluminum Tapered Five Spoke
19-inch front / 18-inch rear wheels
Rockertail rear section
Stretched fuel tank with recessed medallion
Solo saddle
V-Bar handlebar on five-inch curved risers
Console-mounted Speed Shop speedometer
Satin Stainless Metallic powdercoat fork lowers, oil tank, headlamp bucket, swingarm and other components
Integrated LED rear turn indicators/tail/brake lamps
Color-matched frame
Vivid Black paint with pinstripe flames option
Optional Smart Security System
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MILWAUKEE (July 9, 2007) – The Harley-Davidson Softail family grows in a new direction for 2008 with the introduction of the FXCW Rocker and FXCWC Rocker C. These factory customs are developed around an all-new Rockertail rear section that faithfully reproduces the profile of a slammed, hard tail frame, while delivering the smooth, comfortable ride of a modern suspension.
The Rocker and Rocker C are part of a seven-model Harley-Davidson Softail line for 2008. Each Softail model represents a distinct branch of the factory-custom tree; the nostalgia of the FLSTN Softail Deluxe and FLSTC Heritage Softail Classic, the long chopper profile of the FXSTB Night Train and FXSTC Softail Custom, and the massive presence of the iconic FLSTF Fat Boy. Each Softail model interprets a styling statement with premium components and an appreciation for the kind of detail and craftsmanship that catches and holds the eye.
The Softail name is derived from the design of its rear suspension, which features a swing arm section that faithfully replicates the lines of an original, hard tail frame but provides a smooth, comfortable ride. The hidden horizontal coil-over shock absorbers for the rear suspension are mounted below the powertrain and out of sight.
The counter-balanced Twin Cam 96B powertrain is rigid-mounted in the Softail frame to give the rider a more-direct connection to the motorcycle, and also to enable a low seat height that gives the rider a feeling of sitting “in” the motorcycle. Harley-Davidson ESPFI fuel injection is standard on all Softail models, as is the 6-speed Cruise Drive transmission. A horseshoe-shaped oil tank located below the seat and a fuel tank-mounted console and ignition are other distinctive features of each Softail model.
The Rocker and Rocker C are part of a seven-model Harley-Davidson Softail line for 2008. Each Softail model represents a distinct branch of the factory-custom tree; the nostalgia of the FLSTN Softail Deluxe and FLSTC Heritage Softail Classic, the long chopper profile of the FXSTB Night Train and FXSTC Softail Custom, and the massive presence of the iconic FLSTF Fat Boy. Each Softail model interprets a styling statement with premium components and an appreciation for the kind of detail and craftsmanship that catches and holds the eye.
The Softail name is derived from the design of its rear suspension, which features a swing arm section that faithfully replicates the lines of an original, hard tail frame but provides a smooth, comfortable ride. The hidden horizontal coil-over shock absorbers for the rear suspension are mounted below the powertrain and out of sight.
The counter-balanced Twin Cam 96B powertrain is rigid-mounted in the Softail frame to give the rider a more-direct connection to the motorcycle, and also to enable a low seat height that gives the rider a feeling of sitting “in” the motorcycle. Harley-Davidson ESPFI fuel injection is standard on all Softail models, as is the 6-speed Cruise Drive transmission. A horseshoe-shaped oil tank located below the seat and a fuel tank-mounted console and ignition are other distinctive features of each Softail model.
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New Harley-Davidson Dyna Fat Bob has Bold Street Presence
Dual Headlamps and Tommy Gun Exhaust are Signature Custom Features
MILWAUKEE (July 9, 2007) – With dual headlamps blazing and chunky tires rolling out a distinctive footprint, the new Harley-Davidson FXDF Dyna Fat Bob aims to occupy a wide patch of pavement. Named for the iconic fuel tank shape that has defined a generation of massive Harley-Davidson factory customs, the Fat Bob combines signature Dyna performance with a new profile that communicates cool authority.
The dual four-inch headlamps, framed by 49 mm forks and new polished aluminum triple-clamps, are the most obvious indication that the Fat Bob is a new breed of Dyna. But it’s a big 130 mm front tire on a 16-inch by 3.5-inch slotted cast aluminum wheel that really leads the way. A new, aggressive tread design exaggerates the tire’s chubby profile. Black painted fork lowers highlight the silver wheels and dual disc brakes, and match black risers holding a V-shaped drag bar. This is a front end that makes a bold statement.
The Fat Bob is powered by a Twin Cam 96 engine that pounds out 92 ft.-lbs. of torque through a 6-speed Cruise Drive transmission. The black-and-polished Twin Cam 96 powertrain breathes through a distinctive new airbox cover and exhales through the wild new Tommy Gun exhaust system, a 2-1-2 configuration that snakes the rear pipe forward and around the engine timing cover to merge with the front pipe. The pipes then split and dump into staggered dual mufflers. A slotted exhaust shield gives the system its name.
Above the engine resides the famous 5.1-gallon Fat Bob fuel tank adorned with a new medallion and chrome, low profile fuel tank console. The Fat Bob can be ordered from the factory with a choice of forward foot controls or mid-mount foot controls, to suit rider preference or stature. A new two-up seat shape combined with the drag bars to put the rider in a position that’s nonchalant cool. Seat height is just 26.1 inches.
A beefy 180 mm rear tire with an aggressive tread pattern wraps a 16-inch by five-inch slotted aluminum rear wheel, a combination that gives the Fat Bob a substantial rear profile but also preserves the great handling qualities of the Dyna chassis. A new wide Bobtail fender covers the rear tire, and the rear shock absorber springs are concealed with chrome “full metal jacket” covers.
The Fat Bob is available in seven solid-color paint options, including three low-gloss Denim paint selections.
Harley-Davidson Motor Company, the only major U.S.-based motorcycle manufacturer, produces heavyweight motorcycles and a complete line of motorcycle parts, accessories and general merchandise. For more information, visit Harley-Davidson's Web site at www.harley-davidson.com.
Dual Headlamps and Tommy Gun Exhaust are Signature Custom Features
MILWAUKEE (July 9, 2007) – With dual headlamps blazing and chunky tires rolling out a distinctive footprint, the new Harley-Davidson FXDF Dyna Fat Bob aims to occupy a wide patch of pavement. Named for the iconic fuel tank shape that has defined a generation of massive Harley-Davidson factory customs, the Fat Bob combines signature Dyna performance with a new profile that communicates cool authority.
The dual four-inch headlamps, framed by 49 mm forks and new polished aluminum triple-clamps, are the most obvious indication that the Fat Bob is a new breed of Dyna. But it’s a big 130 mm front tire on a 16-inch by 3.5-inch slotted cast aluminum wheel that really leads the way. A new, aggressive tread design exaggerates the tire’s chubby profile. Black painted fork lowers highlight the silver wheels and dual disc brakes, and match black risers holding a V-shaped drag bar. This is a front end that makes a bold statement.
The Fat Bob is powered by a Twin Cam 96 engine that pounds out 92 ft.-lbs. of torque through a 6-speed Cruise Drive transmission. The black-and-polished Twin Cam 96 powertrain breathes through a distinctive new airbox cover and exhales through the wild new Tommy Gun exhaust system, a 2-1-2 configuration that snakes the rear pipe forward and around the engine timing cover to merge with the front pipe. The pipes then split and dump into staggered dual mufflers. A slotted exhaust shield gives the system its name.
Above the engine resides the famous 5.1-gallon Fat Bob fuel tank adorned with a new medallion and chrome, low profile fuel tank console. The Fat Bob can be ordered from the factory with a choice of forward foot controls or mid-mount foot controls, to suit rider preference or stature. A new two-up seat shape combined with the drag bars to put the rider in a position that’s nonchalant cool. Seat height is just 26.1 inches.
A beefy 180 mm rear tire with an aggressive tread pattern wraps a 16-inch by five-inch slotted aluminum rear wheel, a combination that gives the Fat Bob a substantial rear profile but also preserves the great handling qualities of the Dyna chassis. A new wide Bobtail fender covers the rear tire, and the rear shock absorber springs are concealed with chrome “full metal jacket” covers.
The Fat Bob is available in seven solid-color paint options, including three low-gloss Denim paint selections.
Harley-Davidson Motor Company, the only major U.S.-based motorcycle manufacturer, produces heavyweight motorcycles and a complete line of motorcycle parts, accessories and general merchandise. For more information, visit Harley-Davidson's Web site at www.harley-davidson.com.
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ABS Option on all Harley-Davidson Touring and VRSC Models
Enhanced Braking Offered While Preserving Distinctive Harley-Davidson Styling
MILWAUKEE (July 9, 2008) – Harley-Davidson will offer an optional Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) on all 2008 VRSC and Touring models. By providing maximum braking effort without uncontrolled wheel lock-up, ABS is designed to help the rider maintain consistent control during emergency stopping situations, especially those that happen in less than ideal conditions.
This advanced ABS is designed to work in conjunction with the Brembo-designed disc brakes on VRSC and Touring models. The ABS provides light lever feedback during ABS events to alert the rider to unstable braking conditions. Unlike many motorcycle anti-lock systems, Harley-Davidson ABS is a manual, independent system, meaning the rider maintains full, independent control of how much of each brake is applied. The components of the Harley-Davidson ABS have been designed and packaged to be virtually invisible, preserving the clean custom styling of the area around the wheels.
Harley-Davidson ABS will be offered as a factory-installed option on all Touring and VRSC models. The same system will replace the previous ABS offered on select Police FL models. ABS is standard equipment on the 2008 FLHTCUSE3 CVO Screamin’ Eagle Ultra Classic Electra Glide and FLHRSE4 CVO Screamin’ Eagle Road King, and also standard on the 2008 FLHTCU Ultra Classic Electra Glide 105th Anniversary Edition model.
Harley-Davidson Motor Company, the only major U.S.-based motorcycle manufacturer, produces heavyweight motorcycles and a complete line of motorcycle parts, accessories and general merchandise. For more information, visit Harley-Davidson's Web site at www.harley-davidson.com.
Enhanced Braking Offered While Preserving Distinctive Harley-Davidson Styling
MILWAUKEE (July 9, 2008) – Harley-Davidson will offer an optional Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) on all 2008 VRSC and Touring models. By providing maximum braking effort without uncontrolled wheel lock-up, ABS is designed to help the rider maintain consistent control during emergency stopping situations, especially those that happen in less than ideal conditions.
This advanced ABS is designed to work in conjunction with the Brembo-designed disc brakes on VRSC and Touring models. The ABS provides light lever feedback during ABS events to alert the rider to unstable braking conditions. Unlike many motorcycle anti-lock systems, Harley-Davidson ABS is a manual, independent system, meaning the rider maintains full, independent control of how much of each brake is applied. The components of the Harley-Davidson ABS have been designed and packaged to be virtually invisible, preserving the clean custom styling of the area around the wheels.
Harley-Davidson ABS will be offered as a factory-installed option on all Touring and VRSC models. The same system will replace the previous ABS offered on select Police FL models. ABS is standard equipment on the 2008 FLHTCUSE3 CVO Screamin’ Eagle Ultra Classic Electra Glide and FLHRSE4 CVO Screamin’ Eagle Road King, and also standard on the 2008 FLHTCU Ultra Classic Electra Glide 105th Anniversary Edition model.
Harley-Davidson Motor Company, the only major U.S.-based motorcycle manufacturer, produces heavyweight motorcycles and a complete line of motorcycle parts, accessories and general merchandise. For more information, visit Harley-Davidson's Web site at www.harley-davidson.com.
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2008 Harley-Davidson Touring Models a Sweet Way to Ride
Six-Gallon Fuel Tank Extends Range, New Brake System with Available ABS Offered
MILWAUKEE (July 9, 2007) – An all new Braking System with available ABS for all 2008 Harley-Davidson Touring models is among a large list of new features that make this the most luxurious line of long-distance motorcycles ever offered by the Motor Company. All Touring models will also be equipped with a new six-gallon fuel tank, an Isolated Drive System on the rear sprocket, and electronic throttle control. A new, economical electronic cruise control system will be offered as a factory-installed option for each Touring model not equipped with it as standard.
Developed through millions of miles of testing and the input of long-distance riders, the seven models in the 2008 Harley-Davidson Touring line utilize a heavy-duty chassis powered by the rubber-mounted 1584cc Twin Cam 96 V-Twin engine with Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI), mated to the 6-speed Cruise Drive transmission. It’s a powertrain that offers outstanding roll-on throttle performance for passing, as well as relaxed cruising in top gear and improved gas mileage.
For even more performance, the Twin Cam 96 can be upgraded to 103 cubic inches of displacement with the bolt-on Screamin’ Eagle 103 Big Bore kit from Harley-Davidson Genuine Motor Accessories. All models also feature air-adjustable rear shocks that accommodate variable passenger and luggage loads for long-haul comfort.
For 2008, Harley-Davidson Touring family includes two Road King models that combine outstanding comfort with classic styling, the exciting Road Glide with a frame-mounted fairing, and four Electra Glide models with the traditional Harley-Davidson “batwing” fairing. Each puts the mechanical beauty of an American V-Twin on display and combines long-haul comfort and function with timeless Harley-Davidson styling.
NEW ON TOURING MODELS FOR 2008
New Brembo Brakes with available Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS): New high-performance Brembo brakes and a factory-installed ABS option are available on all 2008 Touring models. Incorporating the latest in braking technology, the new Harley-Davidson Brembo brakes offer consistent braking and stopping power under all operating conditions. Besides improved brake performance and feel, the Touring motorcycles retain their distinctive Harley-Davidson style. This world class braking system comes to the Touring line with proven capability directly from the VRSC line of performance custom motorcycles. The all-new ABS feature is designed to help the rider maintain control during emergency stopping situations, especially those that happen in less-than-ideal conditions. The components of the Harley-Davidson ABS have been designed and packaged to be virtually invisible, preserving the uncluttered styling of the area around the wheels. Unlike many motorcycle ABS, Harley-Davidson ABS is a manual, independent system, meaning the rider maintains control of how much of each brake is applied.
Larger Fuel Tank: Fuel capacity of all Touring models is increased by 20 percent, from five to six gallons. Combined with the 6-speed Cruise Drive transmission, the larger tank gives Touring models more range than ever before. The new tank also features new console styling with a new fuel range indicator, and also enabled the seat to be reshaped for more comfort.
Electronic Throttle Control: A new Electronic Throttle Control replaces mechanical cables on all Touring models. All wiring from the throttle-grip sensor is routed through the handlebars. The ETC enables the easy upgrade to a new cruise control system, and provides a clean custom look in the handlebar area.
Factory-Option Cruise Control: Available for all models that do not come equipped with cruise control as standard equipment, this new cruise control is offered at a lower price than the previous accessory cruise control system.
Isolated Drive System: Located in the rear sprocket, the Isolated Drive System improves ride quality under accelerations, shifting and cruising while reducing noise and vibration to the rider.
Adjustable Fairing-Mounted Wind Deflectors: The Ultra Classic Electra Glide model has standard adjustable fairing-mounted wind deflectors that improve ride comfort by allowing the rider to direct oncoming wind flow. The wind deflectors can be added to Electra Glide Standard, Street Glide and Electric Glide Classic models as a factory-installed option.
105th Anniversary Editions: A limited-edition, serialized 105th Anniversary FLHTCU Ultra Classic Electra Glide, FLHRC Road King Classic, FLTR Road Glide, and FLHX Street Glide will be available in 2008 (see separate release for details on the 105th Anniversary package).
FLHR Road King
Combining Harley-Davidson styling heritage and long-range riding comfort, the FLHR Road King features a large, detachable windshield and hard-shell saddlebags. A new design brings the handlebar closer to the rider. A chrome Hiawatha headlamp and clear-lens auxiliary passing lights lead the way, while chrome engine covers, a deep-skirted FL front fender and white-stripe tires add a touch of class.
2008 Harley-Davidson Touring Models a Sweet Way to Ride
Six-Gallon Fuel Tank Extends Range, New Brake System with Available ABS Offered
MILWAUKEE (July 9, 2007) – An all new Braking System with available ABS for all 2008 Harley-Davidson Touring models is among a large list of new features that make this the most luxurious line of long-distance motorcycles ever offered by the Motor Company. All Touring models will also be equipped with a new six-gallon fuel tank, an Isolated Drive System on the rear sprocket, and electronic throttle control. A new, economical electronic cruise control system will be offered as a factory-installed option for each Touring model not equipped with it as standard.
Developed through millions of miles of testing and the input of long-distance riders, the seven models in the 2008 Harley-Davidson Touring line utilize a heavy-duty chassis powered by the rubber-mounted 1584cc Twin Cam 96 V-Twin engine with Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI), mated to the 6-speed Cruise Drive transmission. It’s a powertrain that offers outstanding roll-on throttle performance for passing, as well as relaxed cruising in top gear and improved gas mileage.
For even more performance, the Twin Cam 96 can be upgraded to 103 cubic inches of displacement with the bolt-on Screamin’ Eagle 103 Big Bore kit from Harley-Davidson Genuine Motor Accessories. All models also feature air-adjustable rear shocks that accommodate variable passenger and luggage loads for long-haul comfort.
For 2008, Harley-Davidson Touring family includes two Road King models that combine outstanding comfort with classic styling, the exciting Road Glide with a frame-mounted fairing, and four Electra Glide models with the traditional Harley-Davidson “batwing” fairing. Each puts the mechanical beauty of an American V-Twin on display and combines long-haul comfort and function with timeless Harley-Davidson styling.
NEW ON TOURING MODELS FOR 2008
New Brembo Brakes with available Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS): New high-performance Brembo brakes and a factory-installed ABS option are available on all 2008 Touring models. Incorporating the latest in braking technology, the new Harley-Davidson Brembo brakes offer consistent braking and stopping power under all operating conditions. Besides improved brake performance and feel, the Touring motorcycles retain their distinctive Harley-Davidson style. This world class braking system comes to the Touring line with proven capability directly from the VRSC line of performance custom motorcycles. The all-new ABS feature is designed to help the rider maintain control during emergency stopping situations, especially those that happen in less-than-ideal conditions. The components of the Harley-Davidson ABS have been designed and packaged to be virtually invisible, preserving the uncluttered styling of the area around the wheels. Unlike many motorcycle ABS, Harley-Davidson ABS is a manual, independent system, meaning the rider maintains control of how much of each brake is applied.
Larger Fuel Tank: Fuel capacity of all Touring models is increased by 20 percent, from five to six gallons. Combined with the 6-speed Cruise Drive transmission, the larger tank gives Touring models more range than ever before. The new tank also features new console styling with a new fuel range indicator, and also enabled the seat to be reshaped for more comfort.
Electronic Throttle Control: A new Electronic Throttle Control replaces mechanical cables on all Touring models. All wiring from the throttle-grip sensor is routed through the handlebars. The ETC enables the easy upgrade to a new cruise control system, and provides a clean custom look in the handlebar area.
Factory-Option Cruise Control: Available for all models that do not come equipped with cruise control as standard equipment, this new cruise control is offered at a lower price than the previous accessory cruise control system.
Isolated Drive System: Located in the rear sprocket, the Isolated Drive System improves ride quality under accelerations, shifting and cruising while reducing noise and vibration to the rider.
Adjustable Fairing-Mounted Wind Deflectors: The Ultra Classic Electra Glide model has standard adjustable fairing-mounted wind deflectors that improve ride comfort by allowing the rider to direct oncoming wind flow. The wind deflectors can be added to Electra Glide Standard, Street Glide and Electric Glide Classic models as a factory-installed option.
105th Anniversary Editions: A limited-edition, serialized 105th Anniversary FLHTCU Ultra Classic Electra Glide, FLHRC Road King Classic, FLTR Road Glide, and FLHX Street Glide will be available in 2008 (see separate release for details on the 105th Anniversary package).
FLHR Road King
Combining Harley-Davidson styling heritage and long-range riding comfort, the FLHR Road King features a large, detachable windshield and hard-shell saddlebags. A new design brings the handlebar closer to the rider. A chrome Hiawatha headlamp and clear-lens auxiliary passing lights lead the way, while chrome engine covers, a deep-skirted FL front fender and white-stripe tires add a touch of class.
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I have absolutely no use for the Rocker. It's just another bar bike. I think the "trick seat" is :bs: They're "tricking" you into thinking it's a seat. Just what you need to bring the bar trash home. After about 10 miles, that seat has to suck for the passenger.
The sad thing is they'll sell every one they make to all the RUBs.
There goes the neighborhood again.... The only thing of value to me this year is the ABS. And I think everyone can forget about a retrofit. It's $795 factory installed. God only knows how much it would cost if it was a dealer installed product. But then, I doubt they would offer it as a retrofit, they want you to buy the new bike.
My 2004 is safe, not enough change to warrant upgrading to me. I don't need a slipper clutch (I know how to downshift), and my motor is going to be bigger than the 1250. If they offered a V-Bagger, I'd be all over that and my bike would be up for sale. They keep missing the boat.
The sad thing is they'll sell every one they make to all the RUBs.
There goes the neighborhood again.... The only thing of value to me this year is the ABS. And I think everyone can forget about a retrofit. It's $795 factory installed. God only knows how much it would cost if it was a dealer installed product. But then, I doubt they would offer it as a retrofit, they want you to buy the new bike.
My 2004 is safe, not enough change to warrant upgrading to me. I don't need a slipper clutch (I know how to downshift), and my motor is going to be bigger than the 1250. If they offered a V-Bagger, I'd be all over that and my bike would be up for sale. They keep missing the boat.
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