[CaveMan450]

Howdy gents, so I've been scouring over quite a few articles regarding this, and have now come to receive your opinions on my problem.

Bought a used Night Rod and it will shut off with the TIP error code on hard stops. I've read a few articles here on how to trouble shoot the error and I think I found the problem.

The TSSM is for a VRSC-B and it's installed on my VRSC-D. I manually tilted the tssm left and right while the bike was running and nothing happened. But when I tilted it forwards or backwards it'll shut off with the TIP error code.
It sucks when I'm stuck in the middle of the road trying to get my bike off to the side or started again while traffic zooms by! Not fun..

So is it the tssm or something else? And what do ya think I should do? I'm gonna be sending my bike in to get some other things looked at as well (stalling at idle, speedometer stops working while driving sometimes, etc) so maybe the dealer can fix it? Thanks!

Here's some photos.

 

[-alan-]

This might be worth a read perhaps ?

https://www.1130cc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153679

"All the earlier HD turn signal security modules (TSM/TSSM) came in two different orientations, "Y" and "Z".

The ones designed to mount with the long axis parallel to the frame are the "Z type" and have "even" part numbers. E.g.:
68920-01D (TSM-Z),
68922-00C (TSSM-Z), and
68924-00C (TSSM-Z, HDI).

The ones designed to mount with the long axis perpendicular to the frame are the "Y type" and have "odd" part numbers. E.g.:
68921-01D (TSM-Y),
68923-00D (TSSM-Y), and
68925-00D (TSSM-Y, HDI)."

 

[stever975]

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Bought a used Night Rod and it will shut off with the TIP error code on hard stops. I've read a few articles here on how to trouble shoot the error and I think I found the problem.

The TSSM is for a VRSC-B and it's installed on my VRSC-D. I manually tilted the tssm left and right while the bike was running and nothing happened. But when I tilted it forwards or backwards it'll shut off with the TIP error code
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So is it the tssm or something else? And what do ya think I should do?...

That TSM (P/N 68921-01C) is not for a VRSCB. It's what's called a "Y" orientation type that needs to be located with the long dimension perpendicular to the bike. These were used on VRSC bikes from 2007 on. The VRSCB (as well as the '06 VRSCD) use "Z" orientation modules that mount with the long dimension parallel to the bike. If you want a proper TSM the P/Ns you need to look for are 68920-01x where x = A, B, C, or D (D is the latest version).

 

[CaveMan450]

That's the info I needed, thank you both! I couldn't and still can't find an online store that listed the parts numbers so with the info you provided I can call and order one from a dealer.
*just got off the phone and they want $240 for it plus another 100 or so bucks for install!!!
"https://youtu.be/-K7fCQlUhj0"

 

[-alan-]

Have you room to mount the unit rotated through 90 degrees ?

 

[flybigjet]

Your dealer is screwing you.

Online, $125-135 or so online plus shipping. Installation is a piece of cake.

https://shop.newcastlehd.com/catalog/parts/harley-davidson?sku=68920-01D

http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche...0Street%20Bike%20VRSCD%20NIGHT%20ROD%AE%20(HD)

 

[CaveMan450]

Have you room to mount the unit rotated through 90 degrees ?

I do not. Not enough space in the rear pillion, unless I took a dremel to it. And I'm not gonna do that! lol.

 

[flybigjet]

Thinking on this for a few minutes, you *may* need a Digital Technician to program since it's not natively programmed to the bike.

I don't know the answer to that, but someone around here will.

R.

 

[stever975]

...you *may* need a Digital Technician to program since it's not natively programmed to the bike.

I don't know the answer to that, but someone around here will.
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A service manual (actually the electrical diagnostic manual P/N 99499-06) is helpful but the dealer DT isn't required. If a TSM (no security) is being replaced by another TSM the "password learn" procedure isn't required and it should just be a simple swap of the modules.

 

[coastrider]

A service manual (actually the electrical diagnostic manual P/N 99499-06) is helpful but the dealer DT isn't required. If a TSM (no security) is being replaced by another TSM the "password learn" procedure isn't required and it should just be a simple swap of the modules.

Interesting! Tree of knowledge as always Steve.:notworth:

 

[CaveMan450]

Sweet! I'll be buying one here today with one of the provided links. I'll let yall know if it installs without a hitch when I get it! Thank you all again for the info and help.

 

[CaveMan450]

The new TSM came in today and I rode on it for a few hours with no problems whatsoever. Thanks again guys!

 

[-alan-]

Another happy Night-Rod rider

Any pics of the bike Cody ?

 

[CaveMan450]

Another happy Night-Rod rider

Any pics of the bike Cody ?

Only one. I guess I need more so I snapped the second one tonight. Cheers!

 

[-alan-]

Sinking the black - way to go

That's a cool looking bike - those wheels set off the black perfectly. Keep her between the hedges.