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Old 09-04-2018, 11:07 AM   #16
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te=Kevin.choe1983;4724795]Bike: 2009 VROD-NightRod

I know many have switched from ABS to Non-ABS brake system for multiple reason. I'm heavily considering doing the same due to HCU failure and the dealership estimates $700.

Could someone provide list of parts they've used and guidance on the procedure?

Thanks in advance
In fact, you do not even need to change the brake lines, if you install a nipple to join the cables will solve the problem more quickly. You can leave the entire electronic system connected so that it will not acknowledge any error code, since it will understand that the bike is not being braked and will not trigger the system.Attachment 529697

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While this will work, if in an incident and the Insurance picks up on that, there could be a problem depending on country and company. Using OEM parts for converting, I suspect your ass will be covered since the factory would have built them this way also and a DOT approved system. Mods open up a can of worms sometimes.
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So Ron are you going to tell us how you activate the ABS when you flush the system?

I flushed brakes after I got my bike even though it only had 6 miles on it but it had sat around unused for two years. The brake fluid was bad and the clutch fluid was horrible.
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:48 AM   #18
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So Ron are you going to tell us how you activate the ABS when you flush the system?

I flushed brakes after I got my bike even though it only had 6 miles on it but it had sat around unused for two years. The brake fluid was bad and the clutch fluid was horrible.
I bought TwinScan2 ABS to cycle the HCU.
https://www.amazon.com/Daytona-Twin-.../dp/B00AC6X18K
I bought my bike in Nov of 2012 and only got 200kms on it before snow shut me down. Decided to go all over the bike and found the same. Clutch fluid was black with crusty shit in the master cyl . Brake fluid was looking ok but flushed any because I've read of several other HD having a high moisture content in the fluid, right from the factory. The clutch has remained clean as well as the brakes each time I've been in there. I can't explain the deal with the clutch fluid but several have reported the same. Almost like they are using the left over sludge at the bottom of the brake fluid barrels. LOL.
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Guys,

Thank you for shear your experience. Before I change from ABS to non-ABS, Didd anyone has any mechanical problem after changing to non-ABS?
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That's how it should work but HD used a system where it wouldn't do that. The HCU has dual valving for front and rear operation so if one valve sticks fluid will not travel to the brake it supplies because the orfice is blocked. This shows up as a rock hard lever or peddle and no brake function. Either front or rear can fail but both would be rare. It really is a stupid system and should have been outlawed as soon as the flaw was discovered. It seems NHTSA don't have balls when it comes to HD. On any car or truck, that would be slapped down so fast it would make your head spin.
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Wow, what a poor design.
Is it same parts all the way through 2017, or did they upgrade the system at some point?
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Wow, what a poor design.
Is it same parts all the way through 2017, or did they upgrade the system at some point?
There are one or two little changes, but as a system it is still the same. And the same as the other Harley models with ABS!
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There are one or two little changes, but as a system it is still the same. And the same as the other Harley models with ABS!
What kind of changes were made, and what year?
I had a 2009 DX, and was disappointed with the ABS. It felt loose and vague. Were they they able to clear that up in later models?
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What kind of changes were made, and what year?
I had a 2009 DX, and was very disappointed with the ABS. It felt loose and vague. Were they they able to clear that up in later models?
I don't think any changes that would affect the feel. I am guessing there were some internal mods done to the valve block etc. hence the recall only being up to certain years. Can't speak from a personal level as I do not have a bike with ABS, but I do know that I would not be interested in having one with a system like this.
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