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Old 10-08-2012, 05:44 AM   #1
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Hi, I've just read that normal unleaded gas will not be available here in Thailand from Jan, to save on pollution/enviroment. They are stopping production.

We have something called gasohol in 91 and 95 octane for quite sometime, will i need to alter anything on my 2004 A? Ive never used it. If i can avoid having to go into the motor it would be good, there are not many Harley trained techs here thats for sure. I searched for gasohol on the forum, im guessing it is some blend? There's millions of scooters here and they run on reg gas 91 which i have been using fine.
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No idea.......if u PM member Shed he lives in Thailand he may have some insights.......
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:31 AM   #3
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Do you know the alcohol content? Any will affect tune but if it's above 10% you must do a dyno tune to richen the mixture. Alcohol has less energy per unit so you will lean it out. So long as you don't max out the injectors, just the dyno tune is fine. Next issue will be damage caused to fuel system components from the alcohol. No need to worry though because you will have to change them anyway so you might as well ride it and see what breaks (after the tune that is). Bonus is you can bump the compression on your next build.
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Locate an airport and fill up with airplane fuel.
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Please tell me you are not being serious ??
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If it's available now buy some gas cans an stock up
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No idea.......if u PM member Shed he lives in Thailand he may have some insights.......
Thanks, i have contacted Shed and he has been very helpful
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In the US we have up to 10% alcohol blends in our gasoline and the bikes will run on it, but won't give you as good gas mileage as they would on gas without alcohol. I haven't had any fuel system problems from it and it doesn't seem to affect power output, just gas mileage.
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Please tell me you are not being serious ??
Yes,I'm serious. I've filled up with airplane fuel a few times in corn country where gas station Octane levels dip into the 87% range.
Rocket fuel I've used was 102 or higher.
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Maybe im mistaken, but i think aircraft fuel has lead content which is a no go if you are running the cats still in the exhaust.
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Maybe im mistaken, but i think aircraft fuel has lead content which is a no go if you are running the cats still in the exhaust.
I've removed the VRods catalytic converter and baffles....using powerline. Good point.
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Up to 10% ethanol is acceptable in your bike. I've done tests, unscientific as they might be, on MPG difference between premium gasoline with 10% ethanol and straight non-ethanol, and the outcome depended more on my individual riding habits on each particular tank, than anything conclusive that one fuel affected my MPG one way or another. Some tanks of E10 delivered better MPG than straight gas, and sometimes it went the other way.
Only thing you've got to watch is methanol. Under no circumstances use a gasoline with methanol blended into it, or you'll have some serious fuel system damage.
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I've pumped airplane fuel out of Reno without any changes in velocity or performance. Definitely didn't sputter or stall.
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