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Old 06-11-2010, 09:48 AM   #1
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belt tension help !

Hi all,

had new tyre put on by HD dealer drive belt was quite tight (as per normal) done around 60 miles and its a lot looser now ?

it can be moved from the top to bottom of the lower guard adjustment marks

is this normal ? or has the axle moved forward a touch because its not tight enough ?

any advice would be great.
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:52 AM   #2
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i don't think the dealer tighten the axle to proper torque spec. and did not check the belt for proper tension. jmo
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:53 AM   #3
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I have always heard if you can take the belt and twist it, so it is basically vertical instead of horizontal, it is about right. See if the axle nut is tight.
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:07 AM   #4
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rear axle nut torque spec for a 2007 dx- 190-203Nm/140-150ft-lbs.

rear belt deflection from section 1 page 30
with 10# of upward force, verify that the belt deflects 8mm or about 5/16-3/8"
with no rider on motorcycle
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:19 AM   #5
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...had new tyre put on by HD dealer drive belt was quite tight (as per normal) done around 60 miles and its a lot looser now ?

it can be moved from the top to bottom of the lower guard adjustment marks

is this normal ? or has the axle moved forward a touch because its not tight enough ? ...
Don’t ride the bike as is. You’ll ruin the belt if it jumps sprocket teeth.

If you don’t have a torque wrench to tighten the axle nut to 140 to 150 ft•lbs (190 to 203 Nm) and a belt tensioning tool then have the knuckle heads that installed the tire (tyre) pick up the bike and fix it.

The twist technique for testing belt tension is better than nothing but there’s two things wrong with it
  1. you shouldn’t twist a polychain drive belt (or bend it backwards) according to the manufacturers cautions
  2. you can’t be sure what the tension is using this technique
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:45 AM   #6
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This is a good read if you don't want to buy a tool.

http://www.1130cc.com/forums/showthr...ght=belt+specs
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:04 PM   #7
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I found this. It looks like a 10# tool with the numbers so you don't need the belt guard.

1.)http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/produc...utm_medium=cse

2.)http://www.toolsource.com/belt-tensi...e-p-99899.html

I do not have this tool. I don't know anything about the quality or manufacturer. I am not 100% sure that this is the right tool for a v rod, so someone with more knowledge please check it out. Thanks
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:06 PM   #8
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Either of those tools would work.
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Either of those tools would work.
Thanks VrodPete
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:51 PM   #10
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According to my service manual (2007) belt deflection should be 8MM (10 for the VRSCR).
Belt deflection window on the belt guard is graduated in 2MM increments. Deflection is measured with 10lbs(4.5kg) force on belt.
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great thanks

dealer had it today and they were working on it for a while he came out and said he adjusted it 3 times and the still moved as if it needed more on the torque wrench but he did not want to do that ? , he said he cleaned all the grease off the cam ? and had done it and was confindent that it "should be ok" but had marked the left side cam adjuster with the swingarm "nipple" and asked me to ride it and see if the mark moved , if so i needed a new axle shaft , nut and cam.

well i rode it hard for around 80miles and the mark has not moved , so would think its good to go ! but i cant understand why they had a such a job to get it to stay put ? this is the third time they have tried now !
my fear is there is something wrong , although i dont know what and that the next time the wheel has to be removed them or someone else is going to have the same issues ? as my warranty runs out in a few months

all they did was replace the rear tyre !

any advice as to what to do ?
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Old 06-12-2010, 02:10 PM   #13
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any advice as to what to do ?
Stay away from that Harley dealer.It's quit evident from them ignorantly telling you you need a new axle that they don't want to work on your Harley.

Ride it for a few days,destroy the belt,then they can sell you a belt on top of a new axle.
God man,how in the **** can an axle wear out?

Do the work to your motorcycle yourself.
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:52 PM   #14
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its under warranty so costing them !

what i cant understand is why would they have trouble setting it up?

why would the axle not tighten enough to stay put ?
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Old 06-12-2010, 04:24 PM   #15
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its under warranty so costing them !

what i cant understand is why would they have trouble setting it up?

why would the axle not tighten enough to stay put ?
It doesn't cost a dealer to do warranty repairs.They get paid for it,that's besides the point.Please tell me what replacing an axle will accomplish?


The axle wouldn't tighten because the person that attempted to work on your motorcycle didn't know what he was doing.
Now we'll hear that he was the trained V-Rod mechanic.
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