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Old 06-01-2010, 04:52 PM   #1
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Avon - Metzler...My Finding...My 2 Cents.. Whatever you like to call it...

LAst year I switched to Avon Cobras from 5 years of Metz tires. Reason? Well Avons Used to be $50+ More Per tire in the past. For some reason Metz $ have gone up and Avons have gone Down in the last 24 months so I did it.
Well I last time I changed tires I used a Honda shop and asked them to put the used aside so I could compare, I never expected to have such a difference.
1) Avons Ride Better, They chew up and Stick to the canyon roads like no other tire I have had, The rear 200 is Higher than Stock and seems to Roll into corners better than both Metz and Dunlops.
2) In the rain (yes I do that occasionally) the Avons win again. While riding around last month with a Visiting Forum Member a rain Storm hit while we where in the canyons and 30 miles of freeway from home. Well the Avons once agn Out performed any other tire I have used on this bike. (Avons, Dunlops, Metz)
3) Most surprising is the Wear pattern. I figured (and heard from others) that Avons are Stickier but wear out quickly. NOT TRUE!!!
I have complained in the past that Metz seem to Wear Out over night. You will be riding along fine one day than 2 days later your tire looks and feels like it is 10 years old!, The rear tires develop a Flat Spot that goes all the way around the tire and makes riding problematic.

Here is the Pict of the 2 tires side by side. The Metz (Off the Bike) has about 11k on it, the Avon (on the Bike) was put on last July and has 10.5k on it right now.
Notice the Metz one side is completely gone, no tread left what so ever while the other side appears to have a Bit of Life remaning.
The Avon on the Other hand looks brand new to me still. I cannot see having to change this tire anytime soon at all from the looks of the tread and MOST IMPORTANT the EVEN WEAR PATTERN!!! I ride the same as always. 35% FReeway, 10% street and 55% Canyon roads.
I am sold on the Avons.
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Old 06-01-2010, 04:55 PM   #2
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thanks for the review!! I always thought that about the metz especially on the front. this kinda confirms it to me.

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Old 06-01-2010, 05:06 PM   #3
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thanks for the good review, it is appreciated as i will be in the market for some new rubber very soon!
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Old 06-01-2010, 05:08 PM   #4
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thanks for the review. I just switched to metzs for the first time from stocks and its a huge difference obviously, but was curious about avons
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Old 06-01-2010, 05:19 PM   #5
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That's some good info! And to add to the balancing controversy, how are your wheels balanced? Static balanced with lead weights, Dynamic balanced with lead weights, no balancing, were balanced but weights fell off, DynaBeads? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Nice review and info, thx.
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Old 06-01-2010, 05:22 PM   #7
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Man that is exactly what my Metz looks like on the front. So did the Dunlop. I have been asking why on this forum. I knew I could not be the only one experiencing this problem. Anyone got ideas except changing tire brand. I think I will turn my front wheel around and run it backwards until it matches the other side. I don't ride in the rain anyway, so what should it hurt?
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I just happen to have Brand New Avons in the garage now too.
Here you can see the Difference isn't that Great from new to used on these tires. (On Bike and In plastic wrap).

The rear seems to be on track to the same as the Metz too, I go through 2 Rear tires for every front. This one has a little over 2000 miles MORE than any Metz I ever had before at around 9k. I am thinking 3k more out of it.
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That's some good info! And to add to the balancing controversy, how are your wheels balanced? Static balanced with lead weights, Dynamic balanced with lead weights, no balancing, were balanced but weights fell off, DynaBeads? Inquiring minds want to know.
This Avon Tire Wasn't Balanced at all by the installer, The Metz in the pict was Balanced by the HD dealer with outer weights that eventually did fall off.
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That's just what my front Dunlop looks like; wearing on the left side more than the right.
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impressive comparison.......just put on a new pair of Dunlops. Looks like I will be going with Avons next time
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Thanks, Lux. I just ordered an Avon Cobra front tire and will be getting the rear tire soon.
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David,
Great pix for comparison. I got 30k on my front, still not down to the wear mark, but now it need to be replaced just due to age. Avons are great and definitely my tires of choice.
btw, I get a new rear Cobra put on tomorrow
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:08 PM   #14
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Well you've sold me...the Metz's were exactly as you described. The main reason I stuck with them though was because I was nervous about the slightly larger (than 200 Metz) 200 Avon rubbing on my saddlebag brackets....but I'm just going to bite the bullet and grind more metal off if needed.
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Great review David. I'll be switching from Metz to Avon next time I need tires. (Soon!)
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