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Old 06-11-2007, 12:59 PM   #1
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Broken Shifter Shaft?!

Has any one had their shift shaft snap on them? If so what was told by the dealer. I only have 8000miles on the bike.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:10 PM   #2
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Has any one had their shift shaft snap on them? If so what was told by the dealer. I only have 8000miles on the bike.
We have seen several snap off. Many of them have been either layed over or been in an accident prior to the shaft snapping. Changing the shaft really isn't a big deal though. It has been reported that the arms can come out of place when you remove the broken shaft but I have done one on an engine I am building a dozen times and could line it back up every time so far. Should be less then a 30 minute job from start to finish including the seal replacement.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:15 PM   #3
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is it something that a dealer should do? or could someone with decent mechanical skills handle the project?
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is it something that a dealer should do? or could someone with decent mechanical skills handle the project?
If you have any mechanical skills at all it is pretty straight forward. The trick is to have the new shaft ready to install right away when you pull the old one out. Order your shaft and new seal and have them both in hand when you start.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:19 PM   #5
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sounds good, is there a special press needed to install the seal?
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:22 PM   #6
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sounds good, is there a special press needed to install the seal?
I used a deep socket the size of the seal to tap mine in. If you have a service manual it has good pictures showing how to remove the old seal and whats involved.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:24 PM   #7
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Thanks for the advice!! I took a look at the service manual and it looked fairly easy. Sorry one last question...do you have an idea on price? I'm stuck at work and can't call a dealer...thanks again
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I just bought some a couple of months ago but can't remember what I paid because I got them with a bunch of other parts. Maybe Vinny can chime in here since he just purchased one a couple of weeks ago.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:37 PM   #9
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I have an update on the broken shifter shaft. My dealer told me it would cost about $800.00 in labor, and $175.00 in parts, which is funny because I priced out the necessary parts and it only costs about $90.00. Of course my extended warranty ended almost exactly a month ago, so I am still waiting to hear a final figure. Either way it should be interesting...could this have been a manufacturer defect? The bike was never laid over or in an accident, and has been driven well.
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I have an update on the broken shifter shaft. My dealer told me it would cost about $800.00 in labor, and $175.00 in parts, which is funny because I priced out the necessary parts and it only costs about $90.00. Of course my extended warranty ended almost exactly a month ago, so I am still waiting to hear a final figure. Either way it should be interesting...could this have been a manufacturer defect? The bike was never laid over or in an accident, and has been driven well.
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My guess is the parts quote includes things like oil and oil filter along with other gaskets, crank bearings and everything else required when you split an engine. Are you 'trying' to deal with Stock's?

If you are looking at having them split it open I would suggest trying to do it yourself. You are looking at $800 you could save.
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I have an update on the broken shifter shaft. My dealer told me it would cost about $800.00 in labor, and $175.00 in parts, which is funny because I priced out the necessary parts and it only costs about $90.00. Of course my extended warranty ended almost exactly a month ago, so I am still waiting to hear a final figure. Either way it should be interesting...could this have been a manufacturer defect? The bike was never laid over or in an accident, and has been driven well.
You really should hook up with some members in your area. I have changed one shaft out testing to see how easy it was and done it over a dozen times now. It takes me about2 minutes with the motor out of the bike and I'll bet with the motor in from start to finish is less then a ten minute job. There is always an outside chance the shifter will drop but I have tried to drop the one in my case while it was apart and couldn't get it far enough out to ever cause any real issue when lining it up.
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I have an update on the broken shifter shaft. My dealer told me it would cost about $800.00 in labor, and $175.00 in parts, which is funny because I priced out the necessary parts and it only costs about $90.00. Of course my extended warranty ended almost exactly a month ago, so I am still waiting to hear a final figure. Either way it should be interesting...could this have been a manufacturer defect? The bike was never laid over or in an accident, and has been driven well.
It is a very easy install like Max said,and is done exactly the way the manual says.Get your bike and do it yourself.10 mins to do it.Only a couple drops of oil drain out so have a rag ready to wipe it up.

Sorry,I didn't see this thread earlier.
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You really should hook up with some members in your area. I have changed one shaft out testing to see how easy it was and done it over a dozen times now. It takes me about2 minutes with the motor out of the bike and I'll bet with the motor in from start to finish is less then a ten minute job. There is always an outside chance the shifter will drop but I have tried to drop the one in my case while it was apart and couldn't get it far enough out to ever cause any real issue when lining it up.
Max, what gear do you recommend the trans being in for this process?

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Max, what gear do you recommend the trans being in for this process?

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Ken I have done it in several gears to see if there was any difference. I really could tell no difference no matter what gear the trans was in. I guess nuetral would be the best so the shift spool would make sure and be off a high lobe on it. In gear it might still be on a tooth or I guess thats possible.
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Max..what are the symptoms of a broken shifter shaft, can you see if it is broken from the outside? I am just curious because when I had my "tip" on the left side the shifer took a pretty big scrape and I have noticed a drag on the pedal when I downshift from 2nd to 1st ever since. I am about to do my 10K service and if the shaft is broken I will go ahead and replace it then. Thanks!
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