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Old 01-04-2013, 02:37 PM   #1
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Motohooligan air box

Happy New Year to all. Santa was generous this year and dropped some Benjamins to me so that I could play.
I'm thinking of going with the Motohooligan air filter set-up (yes I know, gain of only 2-5 hp), but the thing is a work of art. Anyway, on my 08 DX, I"m currently running topless with drilled holes along the bottom tray, S.E. Stage II cams, stock T-bodies, Rinehart 2-1, and dyno tuned with SEPST.

My question for those in the know: Do you think, and/or recommend that I would need to re-tune after installing the Motohooligan setup?

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Old 01-04-2013, 03:39 PM   #2
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I would say probably not, the changes would not be very large - but if you did re-tune you will probably see the rear cylinder fueling change a little more than the front due to the stacks being equal length in the MHAB.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:58 PM   #3
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I would say probably not, the changes would not be very large - but if you did re-tune you will probably see the rear cylinder fueling change a little more than the front due to the stacks being equal length in the MHAB.
That's what I thought, just trying to err on the side of caution by asking you guys in the know. Thanks Pete. Not to get off topic, but, hows the beast running....gone against any big cubes air cool engines? Anyway, since this thing (Motobox) came out, I've been wanting one...if anything, just to admire it for the craftsmanship whenever the clam shell comes off. I believe I'm going to pull the trigger on it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:13 PM   #4
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I would do a couple data logs just to confirm. the sepst has that option, no?
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I would do a couple data logs just to confirm. the sepst has that option, no?
Not sure....I'm fuc...up when it comes to stuff like this...i'll check, and knowing me being a chicken shite (for stuff like this), I'll probably take the V back to the dyno and get it re-tuned. I know it's a lot of money for this apparatus, but damn, it sure looks nice. Certainly, it's not going to gain much; however, it seems to add small power across the rpm scale. It seems not to retract power either. I appreciate you "guys" jumping on this when it came out and took a calculated and educated chance on it. It certainly makes people like me easier to make a decision. Thanks
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On my 1402, when I went from topless to Motohooligan I needed to add fuel to my map.
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Yeah Consig, seems the Moto box flows a little bit more air. Cool. Thanks for the replies, brothers.
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That's what I thought, just trying to err on the side of caution by asking you guys in the know. Thanks Pete. Not to get off topic, but, hows the beast running....gone against any big cubes air cool engines? Anyway, since this thing (Motobox) came out, I've been wanting one...if anything, just to admire it for the craftsmanship whenever the clam shell comes off. I believe I'm going to pull the trigger on it.
No real on-street run (yet), but a guy I know with a 144" Road King that makes about 140TQ and 140HP rode it after the 1402 was in, broken in and tuned and said "WOW, that thing is REALLY fast". He didn't let me ride the RK, it "needed some more tweaks"
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No real on-street run (yet), but a guy I know with a 144" Road King that makes about 140TQ and 140HP rode it after the 1402 was in, broken in and tuned and said "WOW, that thing is REALLY fast". He didn't let me ride the RK, it "needed some more tweaks"
Nice, I think because power to weight ratio, gearing, and lack of rpms, the Road King wouldn"t stand a chance. BTW, I ordered the Motobox, and waiting for it like a kid waiting for Santa to bring toys.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:05 PM   #10
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I know that feeling losNRS, when I got the box in it was like Christmas. I have a buddy that wanted to see if so I was taking teaser shots with my phone as I unboxed the Motohooligan Airbox. It is quite the piece of work.
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From what I read the gains are small and it tends to transfer some engine heat up towards... um well lets say private parts. Would be great to keep the boys toasty in cooler weather riding. I bought one any damn way but have not had time to fool with it, the winter mods start this weekend. It is a well made piece, looks cool and it seems a shame to cover it up. So I bought a dented up tin and started cutting it out so the air cleaner sticks out, like an old muscle car with blower or tunnel ram. I plan on a retune once I get all my mods done. JMO but unless you are using auto tune or can DIY then I would get it tuned. If you find a friendly tuner that will let you do some base line before the retune, post up the results for the rest of the class to see.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:33 AM   #12
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I know that feeling losNRS, when I got the box in it was like Christmas. I have a buddy that wanted to see if so I was taking teaser shots with my phone as I unboxed the Motohooligan Airbox. It is quite the piece of work.
Yeah, it's amazing how old wrinkled gray hair men, act like kids when it comes to things like this.
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From what I read the gains are small and it tends to transfer some engine heat up towards... um well lets say private parts. Would be great to keep the boys toasty in cooler weather riding. I bought one any damn way but have not had time to fool with it, the winter mods start this weekend. It is a well made piece, looks cool and it seems a shame to cover it up. So I bought a dented up tin and started cutting it out so the air cleaner sticks out, like an old muscle car with blower or tunnel ram. I plan on a retune once I get all my mods done. JMO but unless you are using auto tune or can DIY then I would get it tuned. If you find a friendly tuner that will let you do some base line before the retune, post up the results for the rest of the class to see.
Yeah, I'm going to retune it, just for piece of mind and to see the difference, if any, from my previous dyno tune. Previous tune with the same combo as current yielded 126 hp / 82 tq SAE. With the exception of twice, I use the same dyno and technician. The dyno seems "not" to be a happy one, and the tech knows what he's doing. I will post up with the previous dyno sheet, and the one after the Motobox.
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Just installed the motohooligan..
The Legend Airride compressor fits just nice next to the airbox but took some time to make a proper bracket.



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make sure you loctite those top hex's I've had one vibrate out
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