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Old 12-29-2012, 08:34 PM   #16
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Wrong take? Off-road? LOL! There are much better machines out there for off-road action. A side car is absolutely the last thing I'd want fockin' me up doing off-road riding. The very last thing. In fact I would rather take that RK.
It's just a novelty, period. And it's only a real novelty if you buy an original. Then park it and look at it. stroll it out for conversation at parties.
Better off-road machine like a jeep peraps?

These "knock offs" are produced in a factory taken as war spoils from germany. This very configuration was noted for dominating rough terrain combat able to climb or sidehill on pitches that would topple all other wheeled transport.

Soviet era quality issues apear to be fading away, and elemental simplicity make owner maintenance possible with basic tools and skills.

Once while visiting with Ozzie Auer (look him up) I asked what the primary attraction of a side hack rig was.He told me "once there is over 8 or 10 inches of snow on the ground it's the only practical way to keep riding, of course".
Though most of us have 20 or 30 years yet to reach his age it's too late to think we'll ever reach the level of manhood Ozzie reached before we were born.

That said take note that all the highway footage shows the Ural always in the right lane.
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Old 12-30-2012, 03:27 AM   #17
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Ya that's it, like a jeep!
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:22 PM   #18
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I've ridden one, complete with guns, took it up and down a private air strip a couple dozen times and I just don't get it. Other than as a novelty, it has zero attributes. Slow, uncomfy, horrible steering, and average suspension...............and it was fockin' green too!
It's a military vehicle. In WWII all the armies had motorcycles with sidecars. In this case, the Russians somehow acquired a handful of 1938 BMW R-71 military bikes complete with their powered side cars (the wheel on the "chair" is driven off the final drive of the motorcycle's rear wheel) right before their involvement in WWII, and IMZ-Ural began building copies of the BMW bike for the Soviet Army. How IMZ-Ural acquired the original BMWs remains a mystery, as they were acquired immediately before the Germans invaded the USSR (not as post war reparations because the Red Army used Ural sidehacks in combat against the Germans). They have remained in production with upgrades from sidevalve to overhead valves and other, um, refinements, to this day. They were very popular in post WWII Warsaw Pact armies including the Red Army. The Chinese also build copies of this bike, obtained under license from the Soviets before those two nations had their falling out and are now manufactured under the name Chang Jiang Motorcycles. If you think the Ural is a crude piece, you ought to see a CJ. Horrible!
What you are seeing is the Soviet interpretation of one of the vehicles that gave Field Marshall Irwin Rommel mobility in the North African desert. You can mount a machine gun on the chair, haul cargo, mail and high priority messages, or just use it as another infantry vehicle like a Kubelwagen or our Jeep. For places like Germany or Russia with harsh snowy winters, a powered sidecar is a must. It will run all winter where a conventional motorcycle is parked in the motorpool until most of the snow melts.
Because the sidecar wheel is powered, it is a heck of a lot more agile off road than other sidecar equipped motorcycles except BMWs through the late 1960s when they ceased making bikes with a take off from the final drive to power a sidecar wheel.
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Ya that's it, like a jeep!
The R-71 and its Soviet copy, the IMZ-Ural M-72 considerably predate the Jeep, and yes Vambo, it is used by infantry units much the way a Jeep is.
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Wrong take? Off-road? LOL! There are much better machines out there for off-road action. A side car is absolutely the last thing I'd want fockin' me up doing off-road riding. The very last thing. In fact I would rather take that RK.
It's just a novelty, period. And it's only a real novelty if you buy an original. Then park it and look at it. stroll it out for conversation at parties.
Of course you probably could find more refined or capable vehicles to take off road but we're talking about motorcycles. Good luck with said RK off road lol. Obviously you don't know what you're talking about...
Philty did his homework. Vambo read his post to educate yourself on a subject.


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Difference is I actually rode one.

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Of course you probably could find more refined or capable vehicles to take off road but we're talking about motorcycles. Good luck with said RK off road lol. Obviously you don't know what you're talking about...
Philty did his homework. Vambo read his post to educate yourself on a subject.



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LOL! I was the first to mention they were copy's and know full well what the hell they were"intended for". And never stated they were NOT used as such. That does not make it a great off-road vehicle which was *the point, not it's intended use or the fact these vehicles were "pressed" into duty. Undrstand? Hell, Just by design, just at a glance, even a fockin' novice can see that. Maybe we should define what you are calling "off-road"?
The US Army and other branches were using FL's for cripes sake. An FL??? Wanna take one of these and call them an off-road vehicle too? Do some hill climbing?

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LOL! I was the first to mention they were copy's and know full well what the hell they were"intended for". And never stated they were NOT used as such. That does not make it a great off-road vehicle which was *the point, not it's intended use or the fact these vehicles were "pressed" into duty. Undrstand? Hell, Just by design, just at a glance, even a fockin' novice can see that. Maybe we should define what you are calling "off-road"?
The US Army and other branches were using FL's for cripes sake. An FL??? Wanna take one of these and call them an off-road vehicle too? Do some hill climbing?

The BMW R71 was a purpose built military vehicle, as was it's Soviet copy. Remember, the BMW had a power take off on the bike's final drive that drove the third wheel on the chair. This gave them, and their Soviet/Russian copy which still has this feature, very good off road agility and superb traction in deep snow.

Where my dad was posted in the Dolomites at the conclusion of WWII in what is now Slovenia fighting the Yugoslavs (Tito was making a play to take northeastern Italy from the allies), they could not use trucks or jeeps on the steep narrow "roads" (footpaths really) so they relied on motorcycles with sidecars from Harley (British forces fighting with them used Triumphs) and big Missouri mules. Yep, pack mules. He used to tell me about the motorcycle races in their part of the Dolomites between US and British army motorcycle units, and yes the Brits typically won them.
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