I just put the cams in and shimmed it up. Everything else is stock. I've made quite a few passes on this setup and it runs alot better than stock. I still say the cams are the best bang for the buck besides a 26t front sprocket or chain conversion.
Ok, not to beat this dinosaur to death, but since the thread got resurrected, I figured I'd thow my own question out there after reading about a zillion posts on the Stage II cams:
What is the bottom line on a livability scale? I don't really believe you get something for nothing, so if the bike "wakes up" at 4500 rpm, what happens down low? Do you lose power (tq) below 4500 rpm, or does the motor behave the exact same way? I'm looked at the dyno charts every which direction (even upside down once), and I'll I'm doing is confusing myself more.
Basically, how does the bike ride differently on a regular basis-- NOT at the track or during a drag race when you're punching it to redline.
PS: One other question: For those who've had the cams in for a few years, any mechanical issues? Any additional wear and tear compared to the stock cams?
i wouldn't get them unless you like to ride hard and go to red line.. your not going to feel anything different on the bike below 5 grand or just riding around.. it feels the same to me. but if you punch it and go threw the gears you better hold on.
I noticed a difference through the whole power band. here's my before cams and after cam dyno pull. I'll let you decide. by the numbers the Tq didn't have a gain but then again every dyno will be different. you can see how much harder the Tq pull is at the start of the run
wow I think the stock cams might be faster there comparing graphs depending upon rpm drop on shifts on those graphs...
Stock cams can't touch Screamin Eagle cams. The graph is all dependant on the tuner and conditions of the dyno cell. I went in the room right after the final pull and it was hot as heck and very dry. I can take it to another dyno and either get a higher number or a lower number. I had it tuned by a HD dealer which they are very conserative on there tuning. there's pleanty of other shops that could "squeeze" more out of it if I wanted. seat of the pants though... Hold On!!
Ok. I'm convinced. Since I'm going to get the bike dyno tuned with TAB's, TTS MasterTune and Amsoil filter/topless, I might as well do the cams while i'm at it.
Especially since I have two buddys with V-Rods (an A and my old R)-- if I get the cams done and "forget" to mention that to them, it might make for an interesting afternoon when we all go to ride. Watching my buddy's "WTF? Factor" makes it worth it right there.
I found the kit online tonight for $399 plus shipping, or I can buy the cams and gaskets seperately for $350. Anyone have any suggestions on the best place (i.e. cheapest) to pick these up?