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Old 12-20-2012, 06:26 AM   #136
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Possiblee 5th...

I will let you know.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:15 AM   #137
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1 Determine where you want your power-band to be. Positive-displacement or "Roots-type" superchargers tend to produce massive power at low rpm and taper off higher in the rpm range; centrifugal superchargers (which are really just belt-driven turbos) work only in the rpm range.

2 Acquire a cam with more exhaust lift and duration. This is quite possibly the most crucial element of supercharger camshaft selection, since the supercharger cannot push more air in if there is already exhaust gases in the cylinder. Most performance cams use more lift and duration on the intake side to pull more air in; you will want to utilize a cam with exhaust lift and duration at least ten percent higher than the intake.

3 Specify your cam with the wide lobe separation angle to ensure the lowest possible overlap. Overlap is the amount of time in degrees that the intake and exhaust valves are open at the same time, and excess amounts of it can work against your supercharger by allowing exhaust backpressure to negate supercharger pressure while the valves are open. Avoid any cam with more than 30-degrees of overlap.

4Purchase a cam designed for use with roller-lifters. This is not a strict necessity; you could go with an old-school flat-tappet camshaft, but you are losing out on horsepower, torque and quite possibly fuel efficiency. A roller-tappet camshaft allows the valves to open and close quicker, which allows you to run a bit less lobe separation while keeping overlap to a minimum. A slightly lower (about one-degree) lobe-separation angle will increase cylinder pressure and low-rpm torque without adversely affecting the engine's octane tolerance or idle quality.

http://victorylibrary.com/supercharger/super-c.htm


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Based on this, it would be interesting to look at using an SE2 Exhaust cam and a stock intake cam. If they can be degreed to get the overlap down low enough that might be a monster setup. Now I'm pissed I sold my stock cams dammit.

IMHO Destroyer injectors would be a necessity in almost any setup, most certainly big bores, along with either or both of a higher pressure fuel regulator and higher volume fuel pump.

Scott brings up a lot of good points on other areas that will need to be paid attention to, most notably the trans and clutch. Tires will be expendable (Hell, they already are for me!).

Right now I'm on the sidelines until I see at least a couple of these running in stock motors so I can have some confidence they will stay together. After that, I'm heading to Lane country
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:30 AM   #138
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A timed intake cam is good as an exhaust. Look valve diagrams in my 1487 cc turbo 2nd edit topic or JanDirk's "different approac to turbo camming" topic.

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Old 12-20-2012, 10:45 AM   #139
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Ok that there may exsplian the ridiculously bad fuel consumption of dickos bike .wow .I could never goe for something that thirsty .

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Gawd Darn it you want it to be cheap, stealth and unnoticeable, fast and save fuel right???
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:17 PM   #140
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Gawd Darn it you want it to be cheap, stealth and unnoticeable, fast and save fuel right???
Oh yea , and easy on tires too ..
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:35 PM   #141
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Oh yea , and easy on tires too ..
Oh and I forgot, full warranty too...
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:50 PM   #142
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Fab,I don't get good economy now don't want it,u play u pay,but 125 per tank isn't do able ,I got further than that between gas stations at times where I ride
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:57 PM   #143
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I know, if that's a problem then you have no choice. I live in a 100 mile Island with gas stations every 5 minutes and even then I've had problems refilling, cant imagine if I had a blower attached to the bike....
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:12 PM   #144
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Dont you guys have the 5 gallon tank? I still got the 3.9 er
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:00 PM   #145
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Fab,I don't get good economy now don't want it,u play u pay,but 125 per tank isn't do able ,I got further than that between gas stations at times where I ride
I think you may have misread the post on fuel economy here, it reads to me he is referring to 125 kph where a thifd injector cuts in, looks like he gets 170 a tank from a later post.

As for injectors, im not that mechanically minded but i dont see why everyone wants bigger on a stock engine, mine runs stock with a higher pressure fuel pump and runs more rear wheel than i reckon the SC is going to yield.

My tuner set it up fat also so engine will last.

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Well stomped pill ur finger out and put a Ricks tanks in .when u throw the sc on haha
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I know, if that's a problem then you have no choice. I live in a 100 mile Island with gas stations every 5 minutes and even then I've had problems refilling, cant imagine if I had a blower attached to the bike....
Any boosted vehicle can be tuned to run economically...infact...they should be 'more efficient' than non-boosted.
The lack of economy comes from the uncontrollable urge to twist the throttle BECAUSE you're 'boosted'.
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I think you may have misread the post on fuel economy here, it reads to me he is referring to 125 kph where a thifd injector cuts in, looks like he gets 170 a tank from a later post.

As for injectors, im not that mechanically minded but i dont see why everyone wants bigger on a stock engine, mine runs stock with a higher pressure fuel pump and runs more rear wheel than i reckon the SC is going to yield.

My tuner set it up fat also so engine will last.

IM no mechanic just my experience
I am running stock injectors and high pressure pump on my 03 turbo pushing 165 HP>>>>>>







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Any boosted vehicle can be tuned to run economically...infact...they should be 'more efficient' than non-boosted.
The lack of economy comes from the uncontrollable urge to twist the throttle BECAUSE you're 'boosted'.
Boost Junkie, OPERATOR ERROR!!!!!!
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It is confirmed, we have 5.

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