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Old 12-10-2012, 01:38 PM   #106
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The iron I put a solo seat on and Z Bars and it rode much better. Best thing about Sporties are the 100's of small indie co making some really innovative stuff for them so you can stay away from the typical HD crap.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:30 PM   #107
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The tally so far:

23 = No
15 = Yes

I'm not feelin the love of Harley here ?
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:38 PM   #108
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Never in a million years. If I had it all to do over I'd go with a Victory.

EDIT: That goes for both V-Rods and anything else HD makes.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:58 AM   #109
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Never in a million years. If I had it all to do over I'd go with a Victory.

EDIT: That goes for both V-Rods and anything else HD makes.
Good luck with that.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:20 AM   #110
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Little bit sour there DST ?
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:48 AM   #111
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Little bit sour there DST ?
Definitely, but I think it's justified. Don't get me wrong it's a beautiful bike and if looks alone mattered I'd be perfectly content.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:15 AM   #112
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Definitely, but I think it's justified.
Other than a poor suspension and a few external bits, would you care to elaborate on your justifications (just the facts please)???
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:15 AM   #113
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Definitely, but I think it's justified. Don't get me wrong it's a beautiful bike and if looks alone mattered I'd be perfectly content.
Bike falling apart ??? Poor Dealer service (we all agree on that one) ?
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:28 AM   #114
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Other than a poor suspension and a few external bits, would you care to elaborate on your justifications (just the facts please)???
Here's a quick, dirty and incomplete list. While a few of these are specific to the older v-rods (like the tiny tanks and ignition placement) they were issues for YEARS before they were addressed.

- Quality issue with electronics - I went through 3 different instrument consoles installed by 3 different dealers the first year I had the bike.

- Quality issue with factory trained mechanics. I had my bike blow oil all over me on a ride immediately following servicing. Also had the coolant tank explode. (different days) Never did figure out the cause of that one.

- I hate the way the floating brake sounds - even knowing there's no problem there I still always get the feeling something is about to fall off when I hear it.

- Foot pegs spark like mother****ers in the twisties. I'm on my 3rd set now and I just dont think pegs should be a consumable item.

- Stock passenger pillion is less than worthless.

- 3.5 gallon tank. If you ride with anything besides other v-rods, you quickly become known as the annoying guy that has to stop for gas every 100 miles.

-Ignition placement in relation to the pipes is absurd. Especially considering how the key has a tendency to fall out when you open the seat to fill up. I know I'm not the only guy who's been cooked by their hot pipes trying to fish the key out or the only guy who has a partially melted FOB as proof of the ordeal.

-No storage area for registration, insurance etc.

-Difficulty of (or even gaining access to the leads on) a battery.

- Worst value of any bike I can think of. If I ever sell, I'd be lucky to get back even 30% of what the bike originally cost STOCK, in spite of an extra 10k or so worth of upgrades.

- Compared to just about any other bike in or around it's class, on the real world performance is abysmal; at the end of the day it's not about how big your engine is or how loud your pipes are. I honestly cannot think of another bike outside of choppers that handles worse than a v-rod on a windy road. It's fine on on freeways and straightaways, but who wants to take a long ride down one of those?

-HD prices

-HD dealers (I think we all can agree on this one)

At the end of the day, about the only thing I've not had issues with is the engine. I'm guessing I've got Porsche to thank for that.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:38 AM   #115
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Here's a quick, dirty and incomplete list. While a few of these are specific to the older v-rods (like the tiny tanks and ignition placement) they were issues for YEARS before they were addressed.

- Quality issue with electronics - I went through 3 different instrument consoles installed by 3 different dealers the first year I had the bike.

- Quality issue with factory trained mechanics. I had my bike blow oil all over me on a ride immediately following servicing. Also had the coolant tank explode. (different days) Never did figure out the cause of that one.

- I hate the way the floating brake sounds - even knowing there's no problem there I still always get the feeling something is about to fall off when I hear it.

- Foot pegs spark like mother****ers in the twisties. I'm on my 3rd set now and I just dont think pegs should be a consumable item.

- Stock passenger pillion is less than worthless.

- 3.5 gallon tank. If you ride with anything besides other v-rods, you quickly become known as the annoying guy that has to stop for gas every 100 miles.

-Ignition placement in relation to the pipes is absurd. Especially considering how the key has a tendency to fall out when you open the seat to fill up. I know I'm not the only guy who's been cooked by their hot pipes trying to fish the key out or the only guy who has a partially melted FOB as proof of the ordeal.

-No storage area for registration, insurance etc.

-Difficulty of (or even gaining access to the leads on) a battery.

- Worst value of any bike I can think of. If I ever sell, I'd be lucky to get back even 30% of what the bike originally cost STOCK, in spite of an extra 10k or so worth of upgrades.

- Compared to just about any other bike in or around it's class, on the real world performance is abysmal; at the end of the day it's not about how big your engine is or how loud your pipes are. I honestly cannot think of another bike outside of choppers that handles worse than a v-rod on a windy road. It's fine on on freeways and straightaways, but who wants to take a long ride down one of those?

-HD prices

-HD dealers (I think we all can agree on this one)

At the end of the day, about the only thing I've not had issues with is the engine. I'm guessing I've got Porsche to thank for that.
well like it or not you cannot disagree with 95% of his post.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:41 AM   #116
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Here's a quick, dirty and incomplete list. While a few of these are specific to the older v-rods (like the tiny tanks and ignition placement) they were issues for YEARS before they were addressed.

- Quality issue with electronics - I went through 3 different instrument consoles installed by 3 different dealers the first year I had the bike.

- Quality issue with factory trained mechanics. I had my bike blow oil all over me on a ride immediately following servicing. Also had the coolant tank explode. (different days) Never did figure out the cause of that one.

- I hate the way the floating brake sounds - even knowing there's no problem there I still always get the feeling something is about to fall off when I hear it.

- Foot pegs spark like mother****ers in the twisties. I'm on my 3rd set now and I just dont think pegs should be a consumable item.

- Stock passenger pillion is less than worthless.

- 3.5 gallon tank. If you ride with anything besides other v-rods, you quickly become known as the annoying guy that has to stop for gas every 100 miles.

-Ignition placement in relation to the pipes is absurd. Especially considering how the key has a tendency to fall out when you open the seat to fill up. I know I'm not the only guy who's been cooked by their hot pipes trying to fish the key out or the only guy who has a partially melted FOB as proof of the ordeal.

-No storage area for registration, insurance etc.

-Difficulty of (or even gaining access to the leads on) a battery.

- Worst value of any bike I can think of. If I ever sell, I'd be lucky to get back even 30% of what the bike originally cost STOCK, in spite of an extra 10k or so worth of upgrades.

- Compared to just about any other bike in or around it's class, on the real world performance is abysmal; at the end of the day it's not about how big your engine is or how loud your pipes are. I honestly cannot think of another bike outside of choppers that handles worse than a v-rod on a windy road. It's fine on on freeways and straightaways, but who wants to take a long ride down one of those?

-HD prices

-HD dealers (I think we all can agree on this one)

At the end of the day, about the only thing I've not had issues with is the engine. I'm guessing I've got Porsche to thank for that.


I can agree with all most all you have said. However I have no real complaints about the handling as I have an R. I also have a 5gallon fuel thank. I know they make a 5 gallon fuel tank for the older vrods, for a couple hundred bucks. If your keeping it, it might be worth the upgrade. As for the initial price way to overpriced specially with HD dealers putting on 1K sometimes more over the MSRP, complete BS. I purchased my R used for 8, 500, so I think that is the best way to purchase them, used!!!
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:43 AM   #117
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I can agree with all most all you have said. However I have no real complaints about the handling as I have an R. I also have a 5gallon fuel thank. I know they make a 5 gallon fuel tank for the older vrods, for a couple hundred bucks. If your keeping it, it might be worth the upgrade. As for the initial price way to overpriced specially with HD dealers putting on 1K sometimes more over the MSRP, complete BS. I purchased my R used for 8, 500, so I think that is the best way to purchase them, used!!!
the R is a Street Rod not a VRod.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:49 AM   #118
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Can't say I disagree, except for the poor handling. My '07 AW seems to handle as well as the other cruisers I test rode. The ride wasn't as smooth as some, so I replaced the suspension and was pleasantly surprised. Now if I can get rid of the heat radiating on my right leg from that rediculous rear pipe that comes forward and makes it 16 inches longer than the front pipe (no reason for it other than looks - UHG!) -

THX for clarifying.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:51 AM   #119
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I can agree with all most all you have said. However I have no real complaints about the handling as I have an R. I also have a 5gallon fuel thank. I know they make a 5 gallon fuel tank for the older vrods, for a couple hundred bucks. If your keeping it, it might be worth the upgrade. As for the initial price way to overpriced specially with HD dealers putting on 1K sometimes more over the MSRP, complete BS. I purchased my R used for 8, 500, so I think that is the best way to purchase them, used!!!
I came very close to getting an R but ultimately I wanted a cruiser and didn't like the overall look or the aggressive seating position. Can't deny the R's technical advantages though.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:14 PM   #120
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the R is a Street Rod not a VRod.
Everything with a Revolution Engine is a V-Rod. The R is included in both the V-Rod Service Manual and the V-Rod Parts Manual. I know that offends your tender sensibilities.
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