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Old 12-10-2012, 02:17 PM   #46
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For what you will spend for a Griso after selling the R, you could tune your R to more than run with that Griso. Then take a track school and really learn how to ride.

On public roads you cannot use any big bore street bike fully, especially the high end sport bikes. Sight lines, bad pavement, traffic, fast left right combinations and self preservation keep speeds well below what the same bike could achieve on a race track. For me, I really couldn't ride faster on a dedicated sport bike than I do on the R because my brain can't process inputs any faster than I am going now. The R will do anything my brain is up to. What you have is more than fast enough to run with most sport bikes on public roads if you know how to handle your tool. Take a track school and do some careful suspension tuning, buy some dyno time and have fun. You don't need a new bike.
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Griso was a sneaky and unsavory character in an Italian novel, "I Promessi Sposi", or "The Betrothed" (litereally I promise to marry) In English.

Don't try to understand how the Guidos think. It is not a rational country.
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and of course the Non Stop use of what most could be used in Porn Ind. Fatboy Low, Street Rod, Vrod, Muscle, Softail Slim,Bad Boy, etc..
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To pass the DoT noise test you will find many manufacturers lean the mixture out between three and four grand because that is roughly the rpm most bikes will run at during the noise test. This flat spot can almost always be tuned out with a flash to the ECU, or at worst a custom EPROM. My old room mate, who's day job is a program manager at General Atomics developing things like semiconducting homopolar DC motors for Naval applications or the electromagnetic catapult for the Gerald Ford class aircraf carriers, has a nice side business doing exactly this for Moto Guzzis and his EPROM is well regarded among Guzzi enthusiasts.
Yes, quite. All stock bikes are shite in the midrange. A re-map is the first job out of the showroom.
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Griso was a sneaky and unsavory character in an Italian novel, "I Promessi Sposi", or "The Betrothed" (litereally I promise to marry) In English.

Don't try to understand how the Guidos think. It is not a rational country.
Ive learnt one thing about Guidos.....money is god.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:17 PM   #50
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Don't try to understand how the Guidos think. .
Or analytical nerds for that matter.
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Indeed...as well as "my riding friends say I dont have a real Harley" and "backyard redneck turbo build" threads...

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Or look at me and my new toy threads.............
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For what you will spend for a Griso after selling the R, you could tune your R to more than run with that Griso. Then take a track school and really learn how to ride.

On public roads you cannot use any big bore street bike fully, especially the high end sport bikes. Sight lines, bad pavement, traffic, fast left right combinations and self preservation keep speeds well below what the same bike could achieve on a race track. For me, I really couldn't ride faster on a dedicated sport bike than I do on the R because my brain can't process inputs any faster than I am going now. The R will do anything my brain is up to. What you have is more than fast enough to run with most sport bikes on public roads if you know how to handle your tool. Take a track school and do some careful suspension tuning, buy some dyno time and have fun. You don't need a new bike.

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Interesting. I dont have the time or patience to mess with suspension just yet. That said, I know you a lot about the R. What fuel tuner do you recommend? PM me if you need too.
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Interesting. I dont have the time or patience to mess with suspension just yet. That said, I know you a lot about the R. What fuel tuner do you recommend? PM me if you need too.
One he made in his garage with duct tape and tin foil in 1957 I imagine.
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Ive learnt one thing about Guidos.....money is god.
You only say that because you aren't close to anyone who is Chinese! Really, it is true anywhere though. There is a good reason for the English expression of getting "Shanghaied".

Before the Japanese invasion and the Communist victory, Shanghai businessmen were famous for taking the shirts off the backs of the rest of the worlds best business people.

My fiancee is from Shanghai, and where money is concerned, there is always an angle. She is very creative that way. She puts my Italian relatives to shame.
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You only say that because you aren't close to anyone who is Chinese! Really, it is true anywhere though. There is a good reason for the English expression of getting "Shanghaied".

Before the Japanese invasion and the Communist victory, Shanghai businessmen were famous for taking the shirts off the backs of the rest of the worlds best business people.

My fiancee is from Shanghai, and where money is concerned, there is always an angle. She is very creative that way. She puts my Italian relatives to shame.

And lets not talk about the Jewish.........
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And lets not talk about the Jewish.........
JUST BOUGHT A 2009 GRISO, low miles!!! Black on Black. pics to follow soon
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And you ppl say the Muscle is a shocker of a name..........
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And you ppl say the Muscle is a shocker of a name..........
These numbnuts can not pronounce it properly. You have to roll the R Tony. It sounds sexy and sophisticated when done in native tongue. What kind of Mario are you anyway?
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JUST BOUGHT A 2009 GRISO, low miles!!! Black on Black. pics to follow soon
So everytime you get beaten by another bike you'll go out there and buy one ??? Just wondering...
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