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Old 12-05-2012, 09:26 AM   #1
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tuner question

Im sure this has been asked a 1000 times...But I just got a 2013 special and really like the Vance and Hines 2 into 1 pipes. I was told by my local Harley dealer that the best thing to do is get the pipes and a tuner at the same time...and obviously he strongly recomemded the Harley Race Tuner over a Power Commander???? Thoughts???
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:35 AM   #2
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Power Vision. Sounds great, although I don't have one. I have the Harley tuner. It does a very simple job adequately, but very clumsily. You are paying $500 for a $20 box and to be able to use some software that would be laughed off the web if it were open source.

Either works though.


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You're right - been asked 1000 times.

No need for a tuner if you're just changing pipes.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:42 AM   #4
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if it were me to do all over again, i'd go this route.


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Old 12-06-2012, 06:12 PM   #5
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If all you are going to do is add pipes the most sensible thing to do is add your pipes and buy a Pulse width modulator.. IMO
The only reason for buying an expensive tuner is if you plan on doing more Mods Later..
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And you will do mods later.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:27 PM   #7
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So I checked into the cobra..... sounds pretty awesome! I will probably never go further than pipes and filter.
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Bub 7 and Screamin eagle race tuner, dyno'd at 120HP and 85ft/lbs of torque...and i have the dyno sheet in my possession, It now lights the back wheel up when i hammer it at anything less than 40mph, runs very very good.. i have a 12DX and first went with a PCV, that ran like shit then it started running on one cylinder...JUNK. Then went to a thundermaxx, ran decent for about 400 miles, then left me stranded on the road and never ran again with the tmaxx.
took it to the dealership where they installed a SERT and dynotuned it. I know folks have their issues with the dealerships.....but at least they have the resources to stand behind their work and products. way more than i can say for Tmaxx and Powercommander.
As with any pipes and tuner you are gonna deal with the little hiccup around 3-4k rpm that can be fine tuned out, but it takes some work. good luck
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