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Old 12-02-2012, 10:13 AM   #1
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I am looking at upgrading my suspension. Looking at either just dropping the cash and going with an air system or upgrading the shocks. If I go with the air system, which one is the best or is that just a personal taste. Now if I go with progressive, 412 or 440 and why. Been reading up on all, just don't know enough and would like some opinions.

I know I will get slammed for posting it here, but I did try on the suspension thread with next to none for feed back.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:14 AM   #2
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The single biggest improvement you can make is to install a True-Track linkage. You will be surprised how much movement there is in the rear engine mounts. Sloppy suspension that you think is due to lousy shocks is mostly the engine and swing arm moving around on the rear engine mounts. I put a True-Track linkage on an otherwise stock V-Rod and the difference, even at very moderate speeds on surface streets, was immediately noticeable.
The linkage itself goes over the top of the engine behind the rear cylinder, attaching to pre-existing holes in the top of the engine case and two holes in the frame above and below the left rear engine mount. Installed it is almost invisible. Most of it is hidden behind he pulley cover. It is the cleanest linkage I have seen them make. Well worth the money.
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How did it take to install. And will it work with the 180 tire?


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Old 12-03-2012, 12:13 AM   #4
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How did it take to install. And will it work with the 180 tire?


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It's work to install. You have to remove the headers to gain enough room to install the mounting block on top of the engine case, and attaching the bracket to the frame takes patience too. Small parts in tight places. I found taping over gaps where small parts might disappear, such as between the back of the engine and the frame, saved me a lot of grief when I fat fingered a screw or washer.

They prototyped the current bracket on one of my Rs with a 180 tire and wide 1 3/8 inch belt. Their previous version had been fabbed up on a DX and the frame bracket interfered with the belt. Not now. It is a universal fit on all the V-Rod models.

Worth the effort though. Like I said, I was surprised how much difference it makes.
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:21 AM   #5
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What if u have the larger fuel tank? Any issues their? Got a link to co.
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What if u have the larger fuel tank? Any issues their? Got a link to co.
It shouldn't. The linkage is completely in front of the steel shield between the engine and fuel tank. It attaches to the top of the engine above the gearbox and to the left side of the frame with a C-shaped cast aluminum bracket that fit around and in front of the swingarm pivot. The linkage runs above the engine from the frame bracket to the bracket bolted to the top of the engine case.

Don't those larger tanks find their extra capacity by being taller and wider?
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:13 PM   #7
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Wider, yes, it probably is a little taller, been a while since we did it. Pretty sure it is tho. Do you have a manufacturer of tht company?
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The company is called True-Track. They are in Los Angeles. The guy to talk to is Ron, you can reach him at the number for Tech Support.

http://www.true-track.com/
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True -Track and Progressive 440's would be a killer setup.

I have 440's and what a difference.

Very pleased.

I would also do the front with progessives to stop the front end dive.

My bike is very smooth.

I have talked to some members here with the air and wished they went another way.

The air ride is all cool to show when you pull up and start of from a location. (ie bike shows and stuff.)
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Thanks for the info. Is the only difference between the 412 and 440 is how you adjust it?


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Before you pop for Progressive shocks, you might give Pierre Vailencourt at Works Performance a call. 818.701.1010 . They are price competitive but much higher quality. Nothing of theirs is off the shelf. All of their shocks are made to order for your weight and riding style. Rebuild prices are very reasonable, usually around $70 plus shipping. Very good quality shocks from a company that has been around for many decades in Los Angeles.
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True -Track and Progressive 440's would be a killer setup.

I have 440's and what a difference.

Very pleased.

I would also do the front with progessives to stop the front end dive.

My bike is very smooth.

I have talked to some members here with the air and wished they went another way.

The air ride is all cool to show when you pull up and start of from a location. (ie bike shows and stuff.)


I have the Progressive Drop In kit in front.....dropped it about 2 in !!!

No front end slop now !!!!
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:44 PM   #13
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True -Track and Progressive 440's would be a killer setup.

I have 440's and what a difference.

Very pleased.

I would also do the front with progessives to stop the front end dive.

My bike is very smooth.

I have talked to some members here with the air and wished they went another way.

The air ride is all cool to show when you pull up and start of from a location. (ie bike shows and stuff.)


Not sure about all the other statements above except this one, I had Stock suspension for about 50k miles, swapped out to Progressive 440s and its was Night and Day, like a newbike. had a small problem with the "Finish" and they took care of it pronto. So before you start Adding to the bike other then the Actual Suspension I would go with replacing the Actual suspension 1st and go from there.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:16 PM   #14
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I have installed Progressive 444's on the rear and their progressive front springs. The jarring I used to get from exspansion joints has stopped and it is a much improved ride. I rode with the 444's for about a month before I installed the front springs and I can say that I actually got better results from the front springs than the 444's. I wasn't able to test the 412's or 440's, so they may be just as good as the more exspensive 444's.
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LOVE a set of 440's. Shame they dont make them anymore.
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