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Old 11-28-2012, 08:46 PM   #136
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Wow, it looks like a super simple install
thats what im trying to do with this kit, being in the race car industry and building them time is money. probably why its taken me so long to build and figure everything out.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:57 PM   #137
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What's a ballpark figure on the kit?
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:58 PM   #138
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:05 PM   #139
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What's a ballpark figure on the kit?
Around 3500 for non IC version would be amazing.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:14 PM   #140
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not sure with the intake and blower plate id have to machine in bulk to make it cheep, like thousands of dollars worth. these blowers arn't cheep either. I want to see the numbers it kicks out.....it wont be 3500 id be loosing money.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:41 PM   #141
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not sure with the intake and blower plate id have to buy in bulk to make it cheep, like thousands of dollars worth. these blowers arn't cheep either. I want to see the numbers it kicks out.....it wont be 3500 id be loosing money.
I have been following this thread with interest, no i wont be buying one as i run a turbo, but talking with guy who did mine there has to be give and take and he predicted loosing on the first 3 or 4 systems as it was a long term commitment.

I would think once you have all the tubing and bits and pieces jigged up the production costs would reduce a lot.

Its a big job and he had my bike for 7 weeks doing mine i hope its priced to sell and you recoup at least some of your outlay.
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I have been following this thread with interest, no i wont be buying one as i run a turbo, but talking with guy who did mine there has to be give and take and he predicted loosing on the first 3 or 4 systems as it was a long term commitment.

I would think once you have all the tubing and bits and pieces jigged up the production costs would reduce a lot.

Its a big job and he had my bike for 7 weeks doing mine i hope its priced to sell and you recoup at least some of your outlay.
Thanks for the honesty everyone here has been a great help seeing what people like and don't, on top of all the help. I'm sure I will loose money along the way as I already have done and thousands invested......I could buy a trask and have 160-165hp but i am looking for 180 on pump gas, probably with a I/C.....not sure if its possible but also I want a reliable kit for the consumer as well. I take pride in everthing we do @ Henn Racing.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:39 AM   #143
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The problem is how much of that extra 15hp is useable horsepower on the street. I think the trask is still hard to beat value wise and can be tuned for more power anyway.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:54 AM   #144
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Muscled'up why dont you post some pics in your gallery? That beast sure must be interesting!

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The problem is how much of that extra 15hp is useable horsepower on the street. I think the trask is still hard to beat value wise and can be tuned for more power anyway.
Trouble with the Turbo is the power isnt made till ya get up into the revs and speed - where as the S/C makes power down low which is more usable on the street ?
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Trouble with the Turbo is the power isnt made till ya get up into the revs and speed - where as the S/C makes power down low which is more usable on the street ?
uh oh.... I can foresee a Blower fight in 5,4,3,2,1...


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That type of supercharger needs to spun to make boost just like a turbi


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That type of supercharger needs to spun to make boost just like a turbi

Thanks Sherlock ... except the Turbo is spun by the exhaust gases and will produce virtually little or no Boost at lower RPMs while the SC is spun by the (crankshaft or other motor parts) and can create boost at low RPM and with virtually no Lag !!
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This is a centrifugal SC, not a roots style. Basically same powerband as a turbo. The main benefit is less parasitic loss. The trade off is a more expensive unit. You are thinking of a twin screw style blower like a whipple that produces the low end torque.

Really for our application is so small that the differences in performance are pretty much negligable. I am more worried about logetivity and appearance.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:50 AM   #150
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Thanks Sherlock ... except the Turbo is spun by the exhaust gases and will produce virtually little or no Boost at lower RPMs while the SC is spun by the (crankshaft or other motor parts) and can create boost at low RPM and with virtually no Lag !!
Kind of a myth that keeps being spouted. Newer dual ball bearing turbos can start to build boost in as little as 2000 rpm, basically the same as sc with no lag especially on small applications like this. Also a centrifugal sc is based on rpm, so it still will not produce designed psi until higher in the rpm range.
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