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Old 11-06-2012, 11:31 AM   #91
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Not to bash someones products but aluminum hard coat anodized pulleys typically do NOT hold up very long. Remember anodize is a coating and coatings wear out. Again not bashing them but they should re-visit the material for the front pulley.

I had a hard anodized front pulley and wore it out in one season. They were good to me when I told 'em it wazs wore out, they gave me a super deal on the steel version. Won't go back to alum for street use.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:38 AM   #92
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I have a gear manufacturer interested in doing gearsets If I can ever get a spare trans. I was assured they can make a wider ratio.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:39 AM   #93
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I had a hard anodized front pulley and wore it out in one season. They were good to me when I told 'em it wazs wore out, they gave me a super deal on the steel version. Won't go back to alum for street use.
So if I understand you correctly,that company also offers the pulley in steel ?
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:34 AM   #94
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I have a gear manufacturer interested in doing gearsets If I can ever get a spare trans. I was assured they can make a wider ratio.
I'd like that, but I'd be too mean to buy it.

A wider set of ratios is what is actually required. No need whatever for six gears.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:30 AM   #96
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I love it how the OP has made one post ever.......
Why cast again;when the first one was successful ?
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:26 AM   #97
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I think our bikes with 5 gears is perfect. I used to wish for a 6th gear out on the highway, but what would it really do for us? Maybe drop the revs by 300-400 rpms & 75mph? It's not worth it. In 5th gear @ 50 mph I'm @ 3000 rpm. (In these bikes thats on the verge of lugging the motor (bad) If you had a 6th gear & shifted into it you'd be lugging the motor @ say 2500-2600rpm. That would do damage to the motor over time. I hope HD never adds a 6th gear.


While a 6th gear seems cool and modding the gear spread seems plausible. I tend to agree with Rippie74...6 pages ago. I'm in the 2-3000 rpm range 98% of the time and I'm dogging it. I've never touched 6000 much less red lined it. We race around the SF bay area's Santa Cruz mountains, tight paved old-time logging trails cut into steep slopes. Don't need to mod the tranny. Even at freeway speeds. I do 70-80 tops. (I can't drive 65)

Why would you want to dump a grand+ to get a few lower R's? The main advantage to the NRS is with that 240 rear tire, you can throttle it half way through the apex and catch that R1 so I would rather ride my Harley, than down it to mod a perfectly good working tranny. The only exception would be for folks living out in the boonies that have long stretches of barren roadways, people with lots of money and time on their hands or your modding for the drag strip. So buy a Destroyer and put a headlight on it.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:30 PM   #98
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Yup... Like I said, several times... Not everyone is gonna want to do it. And on a stock motor, it's really not gonna make that much difference anyway.
However... if you're tearing the motor down already, and stroking it, and/or going forced induction, it's something to think about, at least for some of us. I agree, for those of you with stock scoots, who ride in a fairly normal fashion, never race, never go to the strip, etc, it doesn't make a lot of sense. There are many of us here that ride the crap out of these things. I don't abuse my scoot, but I do flog it mercilessly. I get up near the red line frequently. It likes it up there... When I gotta take the bottom end apart, I'm definitely going large displacement. When that happens, I'd like to have the option of a 6 speed. For most of you, that isn't something you want to do. Great. Enjoy your scoot in the fashion you prefer. I'm looking for the 2%-5% of V-Rod owners that are interested in going far beyond stock...
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:32 PM   #99
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A half of year just wondering, not a single action how to do it in practise.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:16 PM   #100
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Yup... Like I said, several times... Not everyone is gonna want to do it. And on a stock motor, it's really not gonna make that much difference anyway.
However... if you're tearing the motor down already, and stroking it, and/or going forced induction, it's something to think about, at least for some of us. I agree, for those of you with stock scoots, who ride in a fairly normal fashion, never race, never go to the strip, etc, it doesn't make a lot of sense. There are many of us here that ride the crap out of these things. I don't abuse my scoot, but I do flog it mercilessly. I get up near the red line frequently. It likes it up there... When I gotta take the bottom end apart, I'm definitely going large displacement. When that happens, I'd like to have the option of a 6 speed. For most of you, that isn't something you want to do. Great. Enjoy your scoot in the fashion you prefer. I'm looking for the 2%-5% of V-Rod owners that are interested in going far beyond stock...
Upon your more deeper explanation I get your point and for one, I'm not putting you down if that's what you want to do. Makes sense if you:

1. You tear your bike up anyways with hard riding and time for a tranny re-build.
2. You have the desire, "jing", time and inclination to do all the work.

If your a racer, one tooth, one mm, one ounce or one degree makes a BIG difference on track day.

Harley collaborated with Porsche to design the bike for a special purpose, Drag racing. Hence the Destroyer. There is no other Harley with this much radical design. The VRod is Harley's answer to the super-bike. They didn't want to go the tradition route that the other bike companies went. I think they where a little short sited when they didn't make a "bagger" or glide version. If they did, it would have wider acceptance from the tradition Harley rider. Harley watches everything we do. This is a perfect petri dish for their R&D research...and it's free! Your tranny R&D is of big interest for them. Use the patent office to your advantage...

This is a big, world-wide VRod forum. There are a select few that will attempt this feat just because... I for one applaud you for the research and attempt. From folks like you, we push the limits of what possible. Maybe Harley will notice and it could be a new product. This is how Speed Shops got started!
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:10 PM   #101
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I can't believe there are 5 pages dedicated to something that will never happen. If you want a touring bike and have the ability to tour long distances at a lower rpm, HD makes plenty of bikes for that. That's not what this bike or engine was ever about. And seeing that 90% of V-Rod riders are zooming around the street, impromptu drag races, and the like, the V-Rod does what it was desired to do.

While members on this forum have made some fine touring bikes out of V-Rods on their own, and I commend them, that's because they want the power and are willing to live with the V-Rods shortcomings to make bikes perfect for them.

But will HD ever market a Revolution-based, 6 speed bike? Absolutely not. The V-Rod is too weak at low rpm for 350+ lbs of passengers, and a load of luggage. Face it, there isn't enough torque around 3000 rpm for effortless cruising. Start hitting a long uphill grade, and you'll be downshifting, guaranteed. As much as all of you despise the Air Cooled twins, they have a ton o'torque down there, so you just roll the throttle a little, and up the grade you go.

Then, there's the R&D expense. It's gonna cost a ton'o bucks for someone to design and manufacture the gears. Then, you have to be willing to spend another $1K in expenses to install the damn thing. To do what, save some rpm? After watching this topic go on and on for the last 7 years, how many people really will pay for this? Maybe a dozen, if that much. No manufacturer is going to make a gearset for a dozen people... unless you are 12 very rich people.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:20 PM   #102
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Why would you want to dump a grand+ to get a few lower R's? The main advantage to the NRS is with that 240 rear tire, you can throttle it half way through the apex and catch that R1 so I would rather ride my Harley.
Is the R1 out of gas when caught by the VROD?
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LOL It's still such a hoot listenimg to all tell how things that aren't needed and will never happen... Must be all you young bucks lmao!!! Disc brakes????? Japshit !!! Now triple Brembos...A aluminum cylinder lmao NEVER!!! Oh shit a Evo... 5 speed trannys Don't need that Jap shit!!!! Oh shit Evo now six speed stock... WTF!!! Liquid cooling ****ing wanta be jap cruisers!!!!!!! Damn a Vrod Who the hell let this shit happen????? Now we talk bout how ya can't make a Tourer outa it... I'm a big guy!!! Damn near 400lbs... My ol lady is bout 155lbs... I don't know how I'll EVER get up that hill.. OMG what am I to do... Roll on the throttle.. These things aren't that damn peaky!!!!! Like he said...If ya don't want one quit whining how it's a waste or you'll NEVER go over 80 and still wanta lauch... Yes it'll be high buck.... $5500. for a turbo $1200. for NOS..Big inch lmao get the check book... How many of those are out there!!! OMG who could EVER want more power than the almighty Motor Company coulda put in it!!!! The cases won't hold more than 160ish hp.... Tell that to Kaz nn O2.... They said the same about the pans nd shovels... WTF S&S came along..... Now they got 110 inch stockers!!!!! If it's not your thing leave it alone!!! I'm not tellin ya How the hell could you waste your $$$$ on chrome!!!!!! Paint it black it's all we NEED!!!!!! If it's what ya want DO IT!!!! I'm interested in a kit!!!
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