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Old 11-28-2012, 12:08 PM   #1
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12" over "Chopper Style" handlebar installation.

Hey gang! I have first hand experience modding the bars on my NRS. I've talked about this with a few people on these treads, so I thought I'd compile all the information and put it here on this thread. As you can see from my Avatar, I went a different route. I raised the handle bars 12" using the El Diablo designed chopper bars, wired them in and left the forward controls. I have to report that setup is perfect for touring, cruising and mountain riding. The throttle cable can be had at Motionpro on web. I just ordered 12 over NSR cables. They build to order. About $80 for the pair (throttle and return).

It ran me $380 USD for the 12" over "El Diablo" bars with with chrome hand controls and wiring pre-threaded inside on EBay. You can use any bars you want but these seem perfect for my height, 5'11". The wiring loom pre-threaded saved me a lot of time and anguish. I did the wire soldering to the old Harley connectors myself. FYI for anyone the color coding on these bars is the same as Harley's but they are no instructions so if you have 4 yellow/red wires, you have to figure out where they go. You have to do the "Pull n Tug" method to find out what wire goes to what connector. These bars come with chrome hand controls that do not work on VRODS with a hydraulic clutch. No Problem. What I did was use my old black brake and clutch setup and the black control covers on the stripped down button controls leaving the wire loom in the handle bars. DO NOT pull out the loom or you'll have hell to pay trying to re-thread it back into the bar. So now I have chrome buttons and screws on my original black controls...nice accents. Of course you have to buy some nice black and chrome grips - $50-125 more if you don't have them already. PS, you can also get these bars in Chrome or black.

The hydraulic hoses are a different matter. Since I live in the SF Bay Area, I went to California Choppers in San Francisco and got all the parts. You can Google them and order by phone, they have a site. They stock Goodwright hydraulic hose parts for custom choppers. Those are expensive. Over $275 for front brakes and about $180 for the clutch respectively depending on how long you want it. With 12" bars, he suggested 8" over the the stock cable length worked fine on mine. I wanted a tighter fit with not a lot of extra hose flopping around. You need to be exact with the measurements for what ever handle bars you buy. They can set you up since they just did mine. I just took the parts home and put them together myself and installed them. There are chopper shops that will build them for you but they will charge you more for it. I checked out a few of them. Use Dot 5 brake fluid to bleed the lines. I don't have ABS, don't believe in it...specially in steep downhills. ABS bike may require special considerations. I've ridden 43 years with regular disc brakes and have survived just fine. Eventually, everything is going ABS.

Hey, I'm just a garage tinkering fool. I do what I can to save money and just like to accomplish something. Got decades of modding my rides. Do the math and if you want to compare it to moving the foot controls back so you can keep that aggressive forward lean like a race bike...that's perfectly fine. This is just another approach to the seating problem on VRods. It was actually fun to do this mod. Took about a week because I took my time. Good winter project. You just need intermediate motorcycle wiring and soldering knowledge. Check my album "Mad Dogs VRod". Good luck!

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Old 11-28-2012, 12:35 PM   #2
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SF Cal-Choppers are definitely expensive tech wise.Been there. Congrat's on DIY self install. Be safe....SF Bay traffic sux, which makes two wheels a necessity.
*Where's your album, "Mad Dogs VRod" located? I can hook you up with several SF- NRS riders who may need your expertise.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:19 PM   #3
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SF Cal-Choppers are definitely expensive tech wise.Been there. Congrat's on DIY self install. Be safe....SF Bay traffic sux, which makes two wheels a necessity.
*Where's your album, "Mad Dogs VRod" located? I can hook you up with several SF- NRS riders who may need your expertise.
You know that's right about traffic around here in the Bay Area! It's murder in high doses. I'm hearing about 15 riders down a day in commutes!

Just click on my profile above and look over to the right and you should see Mad Dogs VRod in the album section. I know the photos are still to be approved by the moderator. Send those NRS riders my way and I'll answer any of their questions. THX!
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Hey gang! I have first hand experience modding the bars on my NRS. I've talked about this with a few people on these treads, so I thought I'd compile all the information and put it here on this thread. As you can see from my Avatar, I went a different route. I raised the handle bars 12" using the El Diablo designed chopper bars, wired them in and left the forward controls. I have to report that setup is perfect for touring, cruising and mountain riding. The throttle cable can be had at Motionpro on web. I just ordered 12 over NSR cables. They build to order. About $80 for the pair (throttle and return).

It ran me $380 USD for the 12" over "El Diablo" bars with with chrome hand controls and wiring pre-threaded inside on EBay. You can use any bars you want but these seem perfect for my height, 5'11". The wiring loom pre-threaded saved me a lot of time and anguish. I did the wire soldering to the old Harley connectors myself. FYI for anyone the color coding on these bars is the same as Harley's but they are no instructions so if you have 4 yellow/red wires, you have to figure out where they go. You have to do the "Pull n Tug" method to find out what wire goes to what connector. These bars come with chrome hand controls that do not work on VRODS with a hydraulic clutch. No Problem. What I did was use my old black brake and clutch setup and the black control covers on the stripped down button controls leaving the wire loom in the handle bars. DO NOT pull out the loom or you'll have hell to pay trying to re-thread it back into the bar. So now I have chrome buttons and screws on my original black covers...nice accents. Of course you have to buy some nice black and chrome grips - $50-125 more if you don't have them already. PS, you can also get these bars in Chrome or black.

The hydraulic hoses are a different matter. Since I live in the SF Bay Area, I went to California Choppers in San Francisco and got all the parts. You can Google them and order by phone, they have a site. They stock Goodwright hydraulic hose parts for custom choppers. Those are expensive. Over $275 for front brakes and about $180 for the clutch respectively depending on how long you want it. With 12" bars, he suggested 8" over the the stock cable length worked fine on mine. I wanted a tighter fit with not a lot of extra hose flopping around. You need to be exact with the measurements for what ever handle bars you buy. They can set you up since they just did mine. I just took the parts home and put them together myself and installed them. There are chopper shops that will build them for you but they will charge you more for it. I checked out a few of them. Use Dot 5 brake fluid to bleed the lines. I don't have ABS, don't believe in it...specially in steep downhills. ABS bike may require special considerations. I've ridden 43 years with regular disc brakes and have survived just fine. Eventually, everything is going ABS.

Hey, I'm just a garage tinkering fool. I do what I can to save money and just like to accomplish something. Got decades of modding my rides. Do the math and if you want to compare it to moving the foot controls back so you can keep that aggressive forward lean like a race bike...that's perfectly fine. This is just another approach to the seating problem on VRods. It was actually fun to do this mod. Took about a week because I took my time. Good winter project. You just need intermediate motorcycle wiring and soldering knowledge. Check my album "Mad Dogs VRod". Good luck!

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Nice work, and good call getting the bars prewired. I pulled my own wires through my Z bars and it was not fun.
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Nice work, and good call getting the bars prewired. I pulled my own wires through my Z bars and it was not fun.
Got any pics of your Z Bars ?
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http://www.1130cc.com/gallery/showim...imageuser=1461
Check the garage and image links under my avatar for a few more pics.
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Nice work, and good call getting the bars prewired. I pulled my own wires through my Z bars and it was not fun.
Yeah, it's no fun pulling wires unless you have short drag bars! I did a few chopper bar installation's and each one was a mess. More radical the bend, the more you pull your hair out. I'd rather pay a few extra bucks and get them pre-threaded!

Great pics! you really covered a lot of ground. I also like your setup. speakers and all. You need a few creature comforts when you on lone trips. I use a helmet comm with stereo radio. Good coverage with that windshield.
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