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Old 11-13-2012, 10:09 PM   #16
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for all the new folks on the forum, finding all the good info to have my sons read; they want street bikes now.
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I'd add 1 thing to the list:

If you really want to ride safe - Turn questions into statements.

Instead of asking yourself - Is that car going to turn in front of me?
Think - That car is going to turn in front of me (and prepare for it).

Instead of asking yourself - Is that dark spot on the road slippery?
Think - That dark spot is slippery (and avoid it).

ETC. ETC. ETC.

Turn questions into statements and you will minimize surprises.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:49 AM   #18
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Very well stated, Thanks.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:36 AM   #19
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Good to see you posting again!
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:05 PM   #20
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I've been fortunate to have worked, and lived, through some pretty scary stuff in my day, but MC riding is by far and away the most dangerous thing you can do as an everyday activity. Accidents are not an "IF", but a "WHEN". All you can do is try your best to protect yourself. Not everybody agrees with wearing all the gear, and that's fine. I'm not going to change your mind, nor you, me. But being conscious and mentally prepared for what's out there is something we can all agree on.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:40 PM   #21
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Great post, putting it on our Motorcycle Clubs web page. There are a few folks who ride like there is no tomorrow. If they keep it up they could be right.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:58 AM   #22
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wow it sure is nice to see this old post brought back to life...
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:17 AM   #23
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Great Post !!!
I'd also like to add, if you are new to the sport, put your pride in your back pocket and go to a Motorcycle Safety Riding Training class. You'll be surprised at the information that you'll receive that you'd probably never gave a thought to. I have witnessed more accidents and deaths over the years than I'd like to mention. 99% of them were due to operator error as they didn't understand the principles of operating a motorcycle, didn't obey the traffic laws or were just riding beyond their capabilities.
As for for those PITA traffic lights. It is allowable by law to roll through them as long as:
1: You have come to a complete stop !
2: You have determined that the light is malfunctioning and not just a long cycle.
3: You may proceed with caution as with any stop sign.
You can trust me on this as I've been in this situation with an unmarked cruiser sitting right behind me. Yes he did pull me over, no he didn't issue a ticket as I asked him if he saw any camping equipment on my bike, I'm such a wise ass
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:11 AM   #24
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well spoken and thought out..thank you
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:56 AM   #25
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I'd add 1 thing to the list:

If you really want to ride safe - Turn questions into statements.

Instead of asking yourself - Is that car going to turn in front of me?
Think - That car is going to turn in front of me (and prepare for it).

Instead of asking yourself - Is that dark spot on the road slippery?
Think - That dark spot is slippery (and avoid it).

ETC. ETC. ETC.

Turn questions into statements and you will minimize surprises.
This is absolutely true along with everything in the original post.

A few weeks ago, I saw a car come flying up a ramp off the my right, and almost had my first accident since I started riding.

Guy didn't look like he was going to stop, and when he did he was completely over the stop line.

Even though I expected the car not to stop, it caught me offguard because it happened so fast and when I hit the brakes, I locked up the rear wheel. My buddy who was riding behind me thought I was going to down.

Once I felt the slide, I let go of the brakes. I wasn't sure whether
I was going to high side at this point, but I rolled on the throttle
and the bike straightened out.

Stopped and figured it was a good time to check and see if my heart was still beating.

Not only don't think the car is going to see you, but don't think they're going to care either.

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Old 11-18-2012, 01:09 PM   #26
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This is absolutely true along with everything in the original post.

A few weeks ago, I saw a car come flying up a ramp off the my right, and almost had my first accident since I started riding.

Guy didn't look like he was going to stop, and when he did he was completely over the stop line.

Even though I expected the car not to stop, it caught me offguard because it happened so fast and when I hit the brakes, I locked up the rear wheel. My buddy who was riding behind me thought I was going to down.

Once I felt the slide, I let go of the brakes. I wasn't sure whether
I was going to high side at this point, but I rolled on the throttle
and the bike straightened out.

Stopped and figured it was a good time to check and see if my heart was still beating.

Not only don't think the car is going to see you, but don't think they're going to care either.

Steve
Sounds like a MRST course wouldn't be a bad idea for you. In a panic situation "ALWAYS" hit the front brake first then add-in the rear. Hitting the rear brake is a bad habit you formed while driving your car. I use the rear brake sparingly and usually only in the last few feet coming to a stop to settle the bike. In most highly congested traffic situations I keep one finger covering the brake lever and my left hand is stretched out covering the clutch lever. I see so many people wringing out their hands after a few good twisty turns I just grin. Stay loose and comfortable and always pay attention.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:35 PM   #27
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:29 PM   #28
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Sounds like a MRST course wouldn't be a bad idea for you. In a panic situation "ALWAYS" hit the front brake first then add-in the rear. Hitting the rear brake is a bad habit you formed while driving your car. I use the rear brake sparingly and usually only in the last few feet coming to a stop to settle the bike. In most highly congested traffic situations I keep one finger covering the brake lever and my left hand is stretched out covering the clutch lever. I see so many people wringing out their hands after a few good twisty turns I just grin. Stay loose and comfortable and always pay attention.
Probably should take a refresher course. I didn't do the panic braking part when I took the intermediate course as I had the VFR Interceptor at the time with linked brakes. Bike would basically
squat down under hard braking and never locked the brakes up.
Guess that spoiled me a bit.

I hit the brakes both front and rear, but over reacted with
the rear brake. ABS would have helped, but it still pays to be
properly trained.

Good points!

Thanks.

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Old 11-20-2012, 12:37 AM   #29
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Great Post, Thank You.............Ride Safe Guys........
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:47 AM   #30
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Great post I was an MSF instructor years back, He nailed it!!!!
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