Does anyone know if there is a place to buy Radar Detectors that'll fit on a VRSCA? I like going fast but don't like paying for it! Thanks! Dwight

The SOLO S2 would be an excellent choice: Its cordless and the batteries last an adequate time. Check it out here >


http://www.escortradar.com/s2.htm

To get a good idea of all the possibilities and to get an idea of what not to buy, look in the Car&Driver site (they do a biannual detector shoot-out) and try this place too >

http://www.radartest.com

Additional Comments:

Motorcycles have a much smaller frontal area for reflecting radar signals. So you get to drive up closer to them when they are painting you with radar. This often gives you grater reaction time to slow down. I think that hearing the detector's audible user interface will probably be the most challenging thing (unless you are setup with touring shield).

Valentine V1, there is no substitute. Hard wire it to the bike and use one of the many mounts available that either clip onto the handlebars of attach to a bolt on the switchs. Do an internet search on motorcycle radar detectors and/or mounts.

BTW, the guy that runs "radartest" is a hack :yak:

There is no consensus... but radartest.com was a biased test put together by the people at Escort.

Valentine 1 is the only radar detector I will use. Especially since they're illegal in NoVA.

The best one is....TO RUN LIKE HELL !!!!! What they going to catch you with???? Unless they ride V-Rods....:deal: :spank2:

I agree with Kennedy, detectors are illegal, but so is speeding in VA. The detector ticket was only $69 in FFX County. Much cheaper than a speeding ticket.

As for running from them sure you can run from the car, but Motorola will get you. Ever try running over a stop stick at 100+. Never a good idea to run from the cops if they get you, you've gone from a minor offense (releasable with a citation) to a felony. You just raised the bar, when you start running. When they do get you, and it would be only a matter of a short time, they lock your a** up, impound your bike, and you can loose your license and insurance goes sky high. Don't run, it's not worth it. And that is all at the time they get you; and if it’s on a weekend you’ll be lucky to see a Judge on Monday.

Now a days, if you are convicted, you will more than likely spend some jail time on the first offense, and end up as someone’s prison b*tch. No thanks, maybe you but not me. The courts are not playing around any more due to that aggressive driving BS, no play now you pay. I know growing it was no biggie, more of a game, but watch the pursuit shows on TV don't see too many including bikes get away. Cops love it if you run, and in a matter of 3-5 minutes that is all you’ll see in your mirrors. 20-30 years ago, you may have been able to out run Barney in small town USA but now, with choppers (those that fly in the air) you have a snow ball chance you know where.

My pennies on that thought,

Dave

They are using lasers in my area any sug. or am I just screwed?

for my truck i use a radar dectector and a jammer.
now you can get the jammers with built in radar detectors.

the jammers are neat, when you go passed road work and go in front of the speedo signs that use radars , the sign will read 0. :rofl3:

Our Police Academy class last night covered traffic stops (low risk) and accident investigation, so radar detectors were discussed as well. I found out some interesting stuff. The lasers used will reach out to 2,500 feet, and can really single out vehicles. The band units just bounce off the largest vehicle, but lasers can pick ya out of a crowd. The officer that presented the class said that detectors don't work against the lasers. Propaganda? Who knows. But he did say he'd let you off if you gave him an excuse he'd never heard before.

The lasers that our department uses cannot be operated in a patrol car, however, since they won't shoot through glass, and they must be stationary. So, if the officer's standing out by the road with what looks like an older video camera, well...he's probably already got ya.

I also found out that the Frisco PD has a "no-chase" policy for traffic violators. Dallas, I'm almost sure, does. And occasionally departments in our area will collaborate in a S.T.E.P. (Selective Traffic Enforcement Program)...recently, they "lit up" about a dozen bikes during one such program -- every single bike but one took off. And all were caught, utilizing ground units, two helicopters, and one airplane.

That seems like an awful lot of Jet A for so few rice burners, tho... ;)

here is info on the jammer i currently am using
$117
The PHAZER II Laser and Radar Scrambler from Rocky Mountain Radar disables X, K, Ka (superwide) and instant-on radar as well as police laser guns. This offers maximum protection from carefree driving. The Phazer II Is only the Radar and Laser Jammer. This Model is for the driver that already owns a high-end detector, but wants to add Radar and Laser Jamming capability to the vehicle.


Features Include:

The new Phazer II has 40% more jamming power
Compact Size (1.5"x3."x4").
A FREE Ticket rebate guarantee that reimburses the cost of any Laser or Radar speeding fine within certain parameters for one full year.
Two built-in diagnostics systems to confirm the unit is working.
Universal Windshield Mount for flexible mounting. Accessory power cords for use with most 12-volt detectors.

Features a full Warranty

Is Legal for truckers because it is NOT a detector!

As for jamming, it is my understanding, (I remember reading it somewhere) that it's illegal to jam radar because that is regulated by I think FAA. But as of right now you can jam laser that is regulated by the FCC and the last I heard they didn't have any regulation against it. I saw on one of those staellite channels on TV that they were testing a laser jammer that appeared to work well. But by the time you guys get all that stuff on your bikes, (all the jammers and detectors and GPS's) they will start to look more like something that fell from outter space than a motorcycle.

For what it's worth,

Dave

:banghead:

My other UBB club is the TDICLUB.com...
It a VW diesel engine enthusiast website and the general consensus is we like to drive our cars... many hundreds of thousands of miles. With the amount of time we spend on the road, we have to protect ourselves, hence a lot of time and study has gone into my radar detector research. My commute is over 100 miles per day.

Please read the number of praises for Valentine1 in these posts. Also take note that many also prefer the escort products. I've never read anything good about Rocky Mountain Radio stuff. I do know that ACTIVE jamming is illegal (FCC regulated), so if RMR jammers worked as advertised, it would be illegal to sell them.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=590431&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=577302&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=501463&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

Max and I watched what happened to a crotch rocket that tried to run. He slid through an intersection, and wound up on his belly, hands cuffed behind him. I hate to think what happened to him after....

I played around with jammers back in the late 70's and actually was producing units that worked on the then state of the art x-band units. Then along came the K bands, not so much of a problem to jam just harder to get the waveguide emitters. Then along comes the Ka band spread spectum tracking radar units and the whole ballgame changed. It's childs play to fake out the speed indicators they park at the side of the road, they use 20 year old technology. Go up against one of the new spread spectum Ka units and you're screwed unless you have a tracking jammer that can adjust in milliseconds and slide up and down the band after it locks onto the CW of the police radar. Not someting you are going to get for $150, try $1500+ ;)

Transmitting white noise in the X and K bands is legal as long as you stay below 10 milliwatts. Go above 10 milliwatts OR modulate the signal in any way and you are in violation of numerous FCC regulations, federal and state laws.

BTW, many modern police radar units can also detect active jamming as well as cheap radar detectors so they may not get a speed on you but they will know you are transmitting. Either way you're busted.

My job keeps me traveling ALOT around 50,000-75,000 miles a year..so far i have no problems and no tickets :confused: maybe i am just lucky.

You need to do some homework if you're concerned about getting caught speeding. Each state has laws regarding the determination of speed by officers that can be used for citing offenders. Here in Nevada there are 3 methods of speed determination: radar, pacing, and estimation. So, if you spend the money for a detector just be aware that it might not cover you at all times. Personally, unless you're a long-haul trucker, I think they're worthless.

Zeeman
(NV cop)

ZEEMAN,
The Bike looks sweet... Post a few Pictures :biker:

Ricky if you do a search for "zeeman" in the gallery you will find that I have two of zeemans pics posted for him. He gave me a get out of jail free card for posting them. :)

MAX....you weren't supposed to tell anyone!!!:cool: I'll be sending some new pics soon. Since the bike was in the shop I sent the headlight housing and clamshell to get painted to match! Geez what a "moneypit":D Sorry for getting off topic!

As a trooper in Illinois, I suggest you not speed. Radar seldom picks up cycles anyway unless conditions are perfect. If you are stopped and you have a detector, the officer will more than likely write you a ticket knowing that if you need a detector, you often violate the speed law. Laser or lidar will not be picked up by a detector anyway unless you have a very expensive unit that is the same frequency as lidar. My VRod pushes the limits on occation. But the accidents that I have seen will make you almost get rid of your bike. Please be careful while driving. We have to watch out for the bigger vehicles and as they say when one of us goes down, we all suffer. Ride proud and safe.

Busted!!!!:spank2:

There are two types of jammers: active and passive.

The legal ones are passive because they don't work.

A passive jammer simply reflects back a "corrupted" signal. But an active jammer sends out it's own signal (you need a transmitter for an active jammer).

I don't have a detector or a jammer, but if you need a good excuse for going fast, this is my favorite.

About three years ago my wife ran off with a state trooper, and I thought you were trying to return her.

I don't have a detector or a jammer, but if you need a good excuse for going fast, this is my favorite.

About three years ago my wife ran off with a state trooper, and I thought you were trying to return her.

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Nothing will jam or detect laser. If you find a product that claims to, it is just propoganda. I bought the alleged top rated model and promptly got slapped down the next month with a ticket (85mph in a 55mph zone). Save your money for your tickets and your insurance hikes - not for a bogus detector.

Nothing will jam or detect laser. If you find a product that claims to, it is just propoganda. I bought the alleged top rated model and promptly got slapped down the next month with a ticket (85mph in a 55mph zone). Save your money for your tickets and your insurance hikes - not for a bogus detector.

Hot Rod,

You're right, there is no real way to jam laser but detecting it is not a problem. The two top units, Escort 8500 and Valentine V1 have very good Laser detection circuits that have been proven in testing to detect laser far in excess of their effective range.

Here's the rub. You can only detect it for the instant it's being transmitted. A laser signal is not "broadcast" like a radar's microwave signal, it follows a very narrow, focused path. The only way these detectors can "detect" a laser signal is to catch a reflection or scatter from a pulse sent to either a vehicle in front of you or YOU! If it's pointed at you then you're busted. Use the big "L" on the screen as a signal to get out your license and registration :cool:

BTW, it takes very little signal to detect a laser pulse so even a little scatter from a vehicle in front of you will set these top tier units off. The technology they use to detect the signal is very common, it's what's in every bar code scanner at the grocery store. ;)

[QUOTE=mjw930]Hot Rod,

You're right, there is no real way to jam laser but detecting it is not a problem. The two top units, Escort 8500 and Valentine V1 have very good Laser detection circuits that have been proven in testing to detect laser far in excess of their effective range.QUOTE]

Sorry for the misunderstanding - that's not really what I meant to say. I agree, laser CAN be detected. The essence of my statement should have been that detecting laser while speeding hardly ever prevents a ticket.

I use the Escort Passport 8500 and its every bit as good as the overpriced Valentine. Can't tell you how many times its saved me!

Go on e-bay and you'll save hundereds over retail and they're just as new. ;)

PS

Lazer jammers are junk!

I use the Escort Passport 8500 and its every bit as good as the overpriced Valentine. Can't tell you how many times its saved me!

Go on e-bay and you'll save hundereds over retail and they're just as new. ;)

PS

Lazer jammers are junk!
:stupid: ;) :kaz:

Poor man's radar/laser avoidance techniques I use on the DC Beltway that has 55MPH posted, but normal speed is 70. Going over 75 is inviting a roadside handholding session.

1. Don't be the 'lone ranger' going faster than everyone else out there. There's always someone who wants to go faster. Let him
2. Let a big fat van or pickup get in front, and let a blocker get behind, then they're between you and the gun or the trooper coming up from behind. Yikes.
3. Stay out of the left lane when you're zooming. Also, catastrophic high speed lane changes are not only dangerous for everyone, but will definitely attract attention.
4. Chill out-- Let someone else go faster, he'll get the attention he craves.
5. This will work about as well as your cleverest method for beating the house at blackjack in Vegas.

Place your bets!

2. Let a big fat van or pickup get in front, and let a blocker get behind, then they're between you and the gun or the trooper coming up from behind.


But you can't see anything. Hardly the "hot ticket" for safety....... and if there is a hard stop, you're now sandwich meat....



3. Stay out of the left lane when you're zooming. Also, catastrophic high speed lane changes are not only dangerous for everyone, but will definitely attract attention.

OK, so how am I supposed to not do a high speed lane change and "zoom" all at the same time if I can't use the left hand (high speed) lane?



#'s 1 and 4 I agree with, the other two put yourself in more danger than doing the exact opposite.

well goatman, it's not for everyone, but thanks for the review

Just adding another side to the coin. ;)

[QUOTE=*******]I use the Escort Passport 8500 and its every bit as good as the overpriced Valentine.

I disagree with this statement. I have seen my V1 signal Ka bogey 3-4 seconds before the Passport 8500 that was right in front of us on Interstate 80.(They had just passed us).

I used on of these but it can't beat a Lazer"instant on":eek: 125 in a 25 in a National Park"Red Rock Canyon":spank: Started Racing at the Track after that one:( !