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: Compression ratios


Vinny
06-22-2004, 10:07 PM
It seems we have a few members with BB's.

What compression ratios are you guys running?and are you using pump gas or race gas?

Also,have any of you had the pistons coated?with that ceramicteflon stuff(whatever it's called)not just the skirts,also the tops.

Vinny
06-30-2004, 05:23 AM
Anybody?

Super Kaz
06-30-2004, 07:02 AM
Anybody?
ya But I Can't Tell ya!I have some Hi Tec GP Stuff that I'm not really aloud to talk about but it should be Really Really Fast! :kaz:

Paul Diener
07-10-2004, 01:15 AM
You can run v-rods with 12/1 ratio on premiun pump gas.I have built several and this seems to work best.

Paul Diener
07-10-2004, 01:18 AM
We have coated our pistons on top and sides. I think coating top is more beneficial than sides but thats just my opinion.

Super Kaz
07-10-2004, 01:18 AM
You can run v-rods with 12/1 ratio on premiun pump gas.I have built several and this seems to work best.
Just incase you did'nt Know Vinney,Paul is Jamie Mac's engine Builder at Eagle HD! :notworth: This guy builds the world Fastest V-rod Motors! :thumb:

Vinny
07-11-2004, 09:47 PM
:thumb:
Thanks for the info,Kaz
Paul are you uasually there on Fridays?I live up in South Bend,it's only a couple hours ride down to Lafayette.Friday is my day off.Wanna get down there and talk to you.
I go to Gerencers in Elkhart,To talk to Lou and Chris.They have filled me with some info.They've even gotten some parts,and services from you guys at Eagle.

I have told them about the forum,but I don't know if they singed on yet :confused:

Rick Nielson
07-12-2004, 01:27 PM
I HAVE 12 TO 1 COMP. MADE 137 H.P. ON C-10.
MADE 146 H.P. ON PUMP GAS. :plause:
RACE GAS NEEDS COMP. TO WORK CORRECTLY.

Peter
07-14-2004, 10:11 PM
Paul D. built my engine at Eagle HD last year and I`m a happy guy. It was one of the first road bikes they did.

Vrod-tlam
07-15-2004, 07:23 AM
Paul D. built my engine at Eagle HD last year and I`m a happy guy. It was one of the first road bikes they did.

What all did they do for you?

V-Rod I FL
07-23-2004, 04:33 PM
Paul:

In your experience what is the best street pipe to run with the Big Bore. I am running some modified SE'2's and getting 135 hp and 89 ft lbs torque. I believe that I can do much better with a better tuned exhaust.

Regards

Super Kaz
07-23-2004, 05:19 PM
10 TO 1= 198.63rwhp Waiting on Bigger injectors and Add the NOS Setup for 300rwhp! :twisted:

Heather
07-23-2004, 05:53 PM
10 TO 1= 198.63rwhp Waiting on Bigger injectors and Add the NOS Setup for 300rwhp! :twisted: :notworth: :sinister: :notworth: WHOS THE DADDY :welcome:

VrodRick74
07-23-2004, 07:48 PM
Just ordered my Piston kit C/R 12.5:1 1mm over stock.

Super Kaz
07-23-2004, 08:06 PM
Just ordered my Piston kit C/R 12.5:1 1mm over stock.
You Gonna Need a Whole Lot More then that if you want to get off the Porch! :spank: it's a Start though! ;)

VrodRick74
07-23-2004, 09:22 PM
You Gonna Need a Whole Lot More then that if you want to get off the Porch! :spank: it's a Start though! ;)
Hey don't worry daddy I got a set of Cams and heads getiing ported and t body and valves, plus a little unit.

VrodRick74
07-23-2004, 09:26 PM
Also coming soon a T-25 Full Ball Bearing turbo kit,via Harry @American Turbo Power.

JackInZoar
07-25-2004, 01:08 AM
not thinking CR here ,, but what is a typical cranking compression (NA race motor) that you are running

riverrattcom
07-25-2004, 01:20 AM
Hey don't worry daddy I got a little unit.



:eek: Thanks for Sharing that with us Rick :laugh: :laugh: :diablo:

JackInZoar
07-25-2004, 01:37 AM
hmmmmmmmmm

Super Kaz
07-25-2004, 09:33 AM
Also coming soon a T-25 Full Ball Bearing turbo kit,via Harry @American Turbo Power.
You Better Get A REAL JOB if wanna play with the Big Dogs! :sinister: ;)

Heather
07-25-2004, 12:08 PM
You Better Get A REAL JOB if wanna play with the Big Dogs! :sinister: ;)
YOU TELL HIM :kaz: GET BACK ON THE PORCH COS YOU CANT EVEN DREAM OF THE STUFF KAZ HAS GOT TO SHOW US BRING IT ON STRONG KAZ :notworth: AND MR VRODRICK74 :sinister: :moped: DREAM ON :soapbox: ;) I CANT WAIT 4 KAZS NEXT TRICK ;) ;)

Super Kaz
07-26-2004, 12:16 AM
MEEEEEEE TOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! :notworth: ;) :kaz:

VrodRick74
07-26-2004, 01:22 AM
:eek: Thanks for Sharing that with us Rick :laugh: :laugh: :diablo:
:laugh: Good one

VrodRick74
07-26-2004, 01:35 AM
YOU TELL HIM :kaz: GET BACK ON THE PORCH COS YOU CANT EVEN DREAM OF THE STUFF KAZ HAS GOT TO SHOW US BRING IT ON STRONG KAZ :notworth: AND MR VRODRICK74 :sinister: :moped: DREAM ON :soapbox: ;) I CANT WAIT 4 KAZS NEXT TRICK ;) ;)
I thought about leaving this alone but I have a few things to say. There are a few people here that already have badass V-Rods. Kaz isn't the only one to have his bike built to go fast, he's the loudest. We all love him for being a pioneer, I'm lucky enough to have him direct me to the right parts and tuners. So when you say to me to dream on, Kaz already knows what I have working for me. We have the same resources, but since my funds are limited I have to do all the work myself. I am a very well known engine builder in my circle, I have built 1500hp twin turbo motors. I am not afraid of failure, thats what sets me apart from the everyone else. I will try to do it, and if I fail I'll figure out what I did wrong and fix it. So I know your having fun but stick to the back of the bike where Paul put you.

Heather
07-26-2004, 04:01 AM
I thought about leaving this alone but I have a few things to say. There are a few people here that already have badass V-Rods. Kaz isn't the only one to have his bike built to go fast, he's the loudest. We all love him for being a pioneer, I'm lucky enough to have him direct me to the right parts and tuners. So when you say to me to dream on, Kaz already knows what I have working for me. We have the same resources, but since my funds are limited I have to do all the work myself. I am a very well known engine builder in my circle, I have built 1500hp twin turbo motors. I am not afraid of failure, thats what sets me apart from the everyone else. I will try to do it, and if I fail I'll figure out what I did wrong and fix it. So I know your having fun but stick to the back of the bike where Paul put you.
THE ONLY THING THAT SETS YOU APART FROM EVERYONE ELSE IS YOU :sinister: GET OVER YOURSELF AND PLAY NICE
AS I SEE IT FROM THE BACK OF THE BIKE BEING BITCH ON BACK IS MY CHOSEN PLACE ,
PAUL DIDNT PUT ME ANYWHERE '''''' :goof:
I LOVE LORDING IT AND ON THE BACK OF THE BIKE sorry limey talk
being a mother i have the cars 4 all of us to ride in ....
i dont see myself as underdog cos i dont ride a v-rod :mrgr: far from it in fact i get all of the pleasure of the bike and non of the muscle and grunt of the mods paul has done :notworth:
paul works too pay 4 everything i make sure he looks the part clean and smart AND I TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS & THE HOUSE ALLSO MY CHOSEN PLACE
i love my life and every time i get on the v-rod and put my trust in paul &i just enjoy the ride :welcome:
I FEEL VERY MUCH THE LADY OF LUCK :) ON ME TO HAVE A MAN AND A VROD WE BOTH LOVE ............AND I DONT THINK LEAVE ALONE SAY ANYONES BIKE SUCKS MAN :lamer: :
YA YOUR RIGHT I WAS JUST PLAYING WITH YOU :sinister: BUT I DONT THINK YOU INSAULTS ARE FUNNY :soapbox: AND KAZ IS TOP DOG ON THIS FORUM WE ALL KNOW THAT HES THE MAN .
MONEY TALKS BULLSHIT WALKS AND ITS GOOD IF YOU CAN PAY SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE WORK 4 YOU MORE TIME TO ENJOY THE RIDE
YOU WANT TO POST THE MOST ,SELL THE MOST ,JUST BE HAPPY CHILL OUT MAN STRESS ISNT GOOD 4 YOU ;)
LIFES 2 SHORT JUST ENJOY, BE PART OF THIS BIG FAMILY STOP WITH THE TAKEOVER BIDS .... WHO KNOW I MIGHT EVEN THINK YOUR OK... oneday .....
..........SORRY MAX I WILL STOP TOYING WITH VRODRICK74 NOW........

VrodRick74
07-26-2004, 12:19 PM
THE ONLY THING THAT SETS YOU APART FROM EVERYONE ELSE IS YOU :sinister: GET OVER YOURSELF AND PLAY NICE
AS I SEE IT FROM THE BACK OF THE BIKE BEING BITCH ON BACK IS MY CHOSEN PLACE ,
PAUL DIDNT PUT ME ANYWHERE '''''' :goof:
I LOVE LORDING IT AND ON THE BACK OF THE BIKE sorry limey talk
being a mother i have the cars 4 all of us to ride in ....
i dont see myself as underdog cos i dont ride a v-rod :mrgr: far from it in fact i get all of the pleasure of the bike and non of the muscle and grunt of the mods paul has done :notworth:
paul works too pay 4 everything i make sure he looks the part clean and smart AND I TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS & THE HOUSE ALLSO MY CHOSEN PLACE
i love my life and every time i get on the v-rod and put my trust in paul &i just enjoy the ride :welcome:
I FEEL VERY MUCH THE LADY OF LUCK :) ON ME TO HAVE A MAN AND A VROD WE BOTH LOVE ............AND I DONT THINK LEAVE ALONE SAY ANYONES BIKE SUCKS MAN :lamer: :
YA YOUR RIGHT I WAS JUST PLAYING WITH YOU :sinister: BUT I DONT THINK YOU INSAULTS ARE FUNNY :soapbox: AND KAZ IS TOP DOG ON THIS FORUM WE ALL KNOW THAT HES THE MAN .
MONEY TALKS BULLSHIT WALKS AND ITS GOOD IF YOU CAN PAY SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE WORK 4 YOU MORE TIME TO ENJOY THE RIDE
YOU WANT TO POST THE MOST ,SELL THE MOST ,JUST BE HAPPY CHILL OUT MAN STRESS ISNT GOOD 4 YOU ;)
LIFES 2 SHORT JUST ENJOY, BE PART OF THIS BIG FAMILY STOP WITH THE TAKEOVER BIDS .... WHO KNOW I MIGHT EVEN THINK YOUR OK... oneday .....
..........SORRY MAX I WILL STOP TOYING WITH VRODRICK74 NOW........
You know I did chill out, and people still won't leave me alone. After your old man and I got in to it I chilled out, but you started this attack on me. You might tell me to get over myself but I said nothing. You started this I didn't. I responded to something I didn't like. If you think that it's fun to toy with somebody just to get a rise out of them then thats pretty sad. I don't dish it out anymore so I don't expect to get it. Raise your kids, check the threads, and post as you will, but leave the insults for those who insult you.

Super Kaz
07-26-2004, 12:55 PM
You know I did chill out, and people still won't leave me alone. After your old man and I got in to it I chilled out, but you started this attack on me. You might tell me to get over myself but I said nothing. You started this I didn't. I responded to something I didn't like. If you think that it's fun to toy with somebody just to get a rise out of them then thats pretty sad. I don't dish it out anymore so I don't expect to get it. Raise your kids, check the threads, and post as you will, but leave the insults for those who insult you.
easy now Brother!She is A LOYAL Fan :notworth: :heart: :kiss: : and Does Not Tollerate people Dissin someone She Cares about :chair: !Your Tone to me is a Little More Agressive and Confrontational then you Realize :stilpoke: ! Don't Dish it Out if You Can't Take it Grasshopper! :spank:

VrodRick74
07-26-2004, 04:46 PM
easy now Brother!She is A LOYAL Fan :notworth: :heart: :kiss: : and Does Not Tollerate people Dissin someone She Cares about :chair: !Your Tone to me is a Little More Agressive and Confrontational then you Realize :stilpoke: ! Don't Dish it Out if You Can't Take it Grasshopper! :spank:
I never dished anything out until I felt disrespected.

Super Kaz
07-26-2004, 05:17 PM
I never dished anything out until I felt disrespected.
PLEASE!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

V-Rod I FL
08-02-2004, 10:09 AM
VROD RICK74:

Hey I am proud to know someone who does it all themself. I wish I could but in this case when I did my Big Bore I decided that fitting and cutting the cases was a job for someone with proven experience. I KNOW your motor wil come out right.

As far as KAZ is concerned several of us long timers have been trading good natured "rib shots" for over 1 1/2 years now. Kaz has the prize for the most money spent (execpt for Harley) on his two V-Rods which aren't running yet. He knows he is spending a lot more than most people will BUT he likes to ruin on the cutting edge. He also knows that there is a price to pay sometimes/most times for being first to try something. IT'S AN EXPENSIVE HOBBY/SPORT!!! but we all love it.

If I can help in any way please let me know.

KAZ I don't have any more money for your V-ROD FOUNDATION and I'll need your tax exempt charity number to file my tax deduction.

REGARDS TO EVERYONE

Super Kaz
08-02-2004, 11:15 AM
VROD RICK74:

Hey I am proud to know someone who does it all themself. I wish I could but in this case when I did my Big Bore I decided that fitting and cutting the cases was a job for someone with proven experience. I KNOW your motor wil come out right.

As far as KAZ is concerned several of us long timers have been trading good natured "rib shots" for over 1 1/2 years now. Kaz has the prize for the most money spent (execpt for Harley) on his two V-Rods which aren't running yet. He knows he is spending a lot more than most people will BUT he likes to ruin on the cutting edge. He also knows that there is a price to pay sometimes/most times for being first to try something. IT'S AN EXPENSIVE HOBBY/SPORT!!! but we all love it.

If I can help in any way please let me know.

KAZ I don't have any more money for your V-ROD FOUNDATION and I'll need your tax exempt charity number to file my tax deduction.

REGARDS TO EVERYONE


wait till you see MY NEW BIKE!!! :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: Your gonna
:surrender ;)

V-Rod I FL
08-02-2004, 11:59 AM
Kaz:

I will be VERY INTERESTED in seeing the pictures, Dyno Run stats and the Track Times.

Do you need anything in CHI Town??

I'm on my way there now asws we speak. Be back Friday.


REGARDS

Super Kaz
08-02-2004, 12:18 PM
Kaz:

I will be VERY INTERESTED in seeing the pictures, Dyno Run stats and the Track Times.

Do you need anything in CHI Town??

I'm on my way there now asws we speak. Be back Friday.


REGARDS
Still waiting on my Works Injectors!75% more then Stock at 5 Bar! :sinister: NOS System in going on as well to see Just How Tuff these things are.I think 300rwhp is a Pretty Safe Number for what I need! :twisted:

P.S A Major National Sponsor would Be Nice! :notworth: I clean up Very Well! :thumb:

VrodRick74
08-02-2004, 01:50 PM
Still waiting on my Works Injectors!75% more then Stock at 5 Bar! :sinister: NOS System in going on as well to see Just How Tuff these things are.I think 300rwhp is a Pretty Safe Number for what I need! :twisted:

P.S A Major National Sponsor would Be Nice! :notworth: I clean up Very Well! :thumb:
5 bar thats 73.5 psi, are you kidding me. Your not running that kind of boost are you? :rolleyes:

mjw930
08-02-2004, 02:22 PM
5 bar thats 73.5 psi, are you kidding me. Your not running that kind of boost are you? :rolleyes:

That's his fuel line pressure, not turbo boost :stilpoke:

VrodRick74
08-02-2004, 02:29 PM
That's his fuel line pressure, not turbo boost :stilpoke:
OH, duh, :laugh: thank you :lamer: I guess at least I knew 1 bar is 14.7 psi, do I get half credit

mjw930
08-02-2004, 02:37 PM
Yep, at least half credit ;)

Vrod-tlam
08-02-2004, 03:17 PM
Hey Kaz, did your guys check to see if your new injectors have the same or similar spray pattern?
Since we have 2 intake valves, our stock injectors are probably a twin stream/cone that are angled correctly for the intakes.
Just throwing a higher flow injector in may not work as well! (I happen to work for an injector manufacturer, but we do not make any for H-D)
Just something to check out...

VrodRick74
08-03-2004, 03:28 AM
Hey Kaz, did your guys check to see if your new injectors have the same or similar spray pattern?
Since we have 2 intake valves, our stock injectors are probably a twin stream/cone that are angled correctly for the intakes.
Just throwing a higher flow injector in may not work as well! (I happen to work for an injector manufacturer, but we do not make any for H-D)
Just something to check out...
Where do you work, I may need some injectors for Ford stuff, high or low impedence, 30,36,42,50,55,80,96 lb/hr. Can you hook me up? I did buy from CPR in Michigan

Vrod-tlam
08-03-2004, 07:15 AM
Where do you work, I may need some injectors for Ford stuff, high or low impedence, 30,36,42,50,55,80,96 lb/hr. Can you hook me up? I did buy from CPR in Michigan

I work for Siemens VDO Automotive division.
Depends, What engine? We do make some for Ford, there are different mounting types for different fuel rails.

VrodRick74
08-03-2004, 12:23 PM
I work for Siemens VDO Automotive division.
Depends, What engine? We do make some for Ford, there are different mounting types for different fuel rails.
Old shcool small block, some new school, siemen decca right

Vrod-tlam
08-03-2004, 03:04 PM
Old shcool small block, some new school, siemen decca right

Yeah, we make all the Siemens Deka injectors here, literally hundreds of variations. Unfortunately we don't really stock anything here, everything is 'made-from-order' or 'just-in-time' manufacturing :tmbsdow:
We make almost every piece for the injector right here in our plant, including winding the coils, and laser cutting the tip orifices.
I'll see what I can find!

Super Kaz
08-04-2004, 01:37 AM
Hey Kaz, did your guys check to see if your new injectors have the same or similar spray pattern?
Since we have 2 intake valves, our stock injectors are probably a twin stream/cone that are angled correctly for the intakes.
Just throwing a higher flow injector in may not work as well! (I happen to work for an injector manufacturer, but we do not make any for H-D)
Just something to check out...
Yes your right I'm waiting for Magnetti Marelli 069 Stock is 063 but am Trying big Edlebrocks with the NON STOCK SPRAY PATTEREN!I was told with the amount of Bost I running I just bump up the idel and I should be OK! ;)