My buddy got a warrior so i thought i would go look at the warrior site....Man do these guys bash the v-rod in just about everythread, anyways they also have a race section, and here it what was said
http://www.rswarrior.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16823
"Patrick Racing Yamaha Warriors take important win and runner up at the AMA Prostar St Louis race, regaining championship points lead. Mark Underwood won with quickest MPH ever recorded by a Warrior, at 141.24 Mph. Rick McWaters, Patrick Racing's new rider for 2004, is starting to feel at home on his Warrior, taking out both V rods in the first and second rounds. Next Race in the series will be at Norwalk Ohio June 26\27."

"HOOYAH! I love knowing H-D will get smoked as soon as they aren't racing other Harleys. PR and Underwood are really taking it up a notch!"

I didnt post this for anyone to go over there and flame, maybe jamie will read this and let him know we are pulling for him and the great job his team is doing this year.

Yes, I agree, they spend a lot of time talking about the V-Rod. Makes me wonder what they are worried about!?
Best: Steve

Shawn I have visited that site before and found that pretty much all they do is trash talk while most of them are walking while they wait for there transmissions to be repaired under a recall program that is taking forever to complete it seems. It is almost funny to read most of the post when you put it in the proper perspective.

In AMA Prostar don't they handicap the warrior by like 100 lbs. or something by strapping on extra weight to the V-ROD?

In AMA Prostar don't they handicap the warrior by like 100 lbs. or something by strapping on extra weight to the V-ROD?
I pretty Sure The V-rods have the weight Penalty Not the Yamadogs! :kaz:

Jealousy gets them nowhere...

Thier sight is offline, I wonder if they used all thier money fixin those warriors that they didnt have enought to pay their web host. :rolleyes:

Thier sight is offline, I wonder if they used all thier money fixin those warriors that they didnt have enought to pay their web host. :rolleyes:

Sight is back on-line. Probably a computer glitch...

Who's leadin' in the points???? It seems to me, the important thing here is consistency, and the V-rods are having a great sophmore year!
and...... what's even more important is what's happenin' on the street...I have personnaly thrashed a very heavily modofied Warrior- to the rider's disbelief! whatever, a stock Vrod crushes a stock warrior, nuff said.

I pretty Sure The V-rods have the weight Penalty Not the Yamadogs! :kaz:
KAZ, IS RIGHT THE V-RODS ARE OVER HEAD CAM MOTORS SO A FIFTY
POUND WIEGHT PENALTY IS PUT ON THEM,USED TO BE 75LBS,BUT THEY
CHANGED THE RULES BECAUSE HONDA HAS'NT COMPETED.

I think thats what I meant. They put extra weight on the V-rod right? By handicapping I mean giving them an advantage which is an improper term I get from golf. Anyway how can they trash talk when they have to slow the v-rods down so they can keep up?

I think thats what I meant. They put extra weight on the V-rod right? By handicapping I mean giving them an advantage which is an improper term I get from golf. Anyway how can they trash talk when they have to slow the v-rods down so they can keep up?
THAT CLASS WAS SET UP FOR PUSHROD MOTORS,YAMS,HONDA,KAWA,HARLEYS,
THEY ADD WIEGHT FOR OVERHEAD CAMS AND FOR STROKER CRANKS,
THEY TOOK 25LBS OFF THE V-ROD AT THE LAST RACE AND WILL TAKE
ANOTHER 25 LBS OFF AT THE NEXT RACE,SO THE V-RODS WILL STILL
BE FIFTY POUNDS HEAVIER.(IT'S AMA CLASS RULES)
THE V-RODS HOLD BOTH TIME AND SPEED RECORDS, 9.401 AND 141.28MPH.
(BOTH BY EAGLE H.D.)

Yeah, seems like our friends over at the warrior forum have a realy envy problem. Hm.. That's what happens when you bet on the runner up, you rationalize things.

Wait for the results from this weekend - Jamie should be out there - we can always post a win report for them - but then again they are proud of their bikes so that is just shaking the hornets nest.
KSP

These Warrior guys just hate V-rods. There is some serious jealousy going on here.

Bellow is another story from their forum:

http://www.rswarrior.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16778

Well I was riding my bike to the McDonalds to get a salad when as I was at the corner ready to get on 441 north (Ocala area) and a v-snod went by and in harley fashon just had to blip his throttle at me with those bad sounding after market pipes he had on, and I mean S$%^ty sounding if you ask me, (why do they do that anyway?). So I decided right then and there to hunt his shiny ass down and toast it real bad, well I caught up to him at a light and he gave me a stupid look, so when the light changed I nailed it and took off like a bat out of hell, next light he didnt try until I started to shift into secound gear at a moderate twist of the throttle, he got on it as I heard the pipes get very loud and started to gain on me, then I nailed the throttle again and rocketed away, then it was one more time he tried it, I let him stay just in front of me and around 50mph he nailed it again, that probably was when he was the fastest for the night, I dropped down two gears and red lined my babby and started gaining on him pretty quick when he led off the gas, then I turned into the micky-d's and got a salad. Problem is guys I wasnt on my WARRIOR at the time, my WARRIOR is in my garage sitting next to my wifes roady waiting for my new fork seals to arrive next week,so what was I riding that totally ANNILIATED the v-snod, my totally stock hard bag equipped FJR1300 of course, yea I know its a warrior forum but I just had to tell you guys this one. I know one thing for sure, he wont F#%#K with a hard bag FJR1300 any more.If you guys never ridden one before let me tell you this bike is real easy to launch, not like your typical four cylinder sport bike, she has lots of low end and is very torquey and quick off the line,I figure it was a fair race because I was raceing a high reving techno marvel liquid cooled hardley that red lines at 9,000 rpm and I was also on a techno water cooled inline four that also redlines at 9,000 redline, damm I love my YAMAHA'S.

Dude, whatever, They all have ROD envy, cause they can't afford one. Some of the threads are hillarious. They spend hours talking, trying to figure out how to beat a v-rod. All we have to do beat a warrior is twist the throttle. :)

I bet they're even snooping around here. If you want to know the truth let me know.
Warriors.......come out and plaaaayyyy.

IF THEY ARE SNOOPING AROUND I GOT A ROD THAT WILL BLOW
YOUR MIND WARRIOR BOY. :alien: :welcome: :hitfan:

From what I've seen, it's many times not the bike, but thr rider that counts in a friendly street rip or roll-on...
I've whipped some crotch rocket ass up to 600cc's let alone the pathetic metric cruiser that steps up to have fun...

I've caught some crotch rockets bigger than 600cc's, but must admit-the big bikes--- 'they be faster!'

I've been bested by a GSXR 1000, and some BUSA's , but I give them such a respectable run they can't help but say something nice, or smile, or give a thumbs-up...

It's better to have raced and lost than to never have raced at all.

Hey Okie, we got to figure out a way to mimick that bottle clickling sound to go with the invite. Maybe we can use 2 recalled warrior tranies.

From what I've seen, it's many times not the bike, but thr rider that counts in a friendly street rip or roll-on...
I've whipped some crotch rocket ass up to 600cc's let alone the pathetic metric cruiser that steps up to have fun...

I've caught some crotch rockets bigger than 600cc's, but must admit-the big bikes--- 'they be faster!'

I've been bested by a GSXR 1000, and some BUSA's , but I give them such a respectable run they can't help but say something nice, or smile, or give a thumbs-up...

It's better to have raced and lost than to never have raced at all.
JOHNNY,
WITH 145 REAR WHEEL H.P. THE BIKE DOES MOST OF IT I JUST
HANG ON! :dance:

LOL... 'Rod envy!

Hey Okie, we got to figure out a way to mimick that bottle clickling sound to go with the invite. Maybe we can use 2 recalled warrior tranies.
:laugh: I think we're showing our age.

:laugh: I think we're showing our age.




:mrgr: Oh yeah brother, the 80's rock. I saw a kid with strasky & hutch nikes the other day and man did that take me back. I had to carck up cuz I remeber sporting the big hair parted in the middle and the blue with white swoop nikes waiting at the skating rink. :rofl2: :blahblah:

The do have ROD envy. If any YAMHEADS are snooping then all they have to do is get the data that was ran by MOTORCYCLE.COM. During their camparo, the VROD smoked the living daylights out of the warrior. The most horsepower that the Yamhead engineers could muster was 104 bhp after their $3,000.00 upgrade. The VROD is 106 bhp at the rear wheel. So do your research first. And to the loser on the FJR1300, GET A LIFE. I'm more that willing to give you a run for your money.

The do have ROD envy. If any YAMHEADS are snooping then all they have to do is get the data that was ran by MOTORCYCLE.COM. During their camparo, the VROD smoked the living daylights out of the warrior. The most horsepower that the Yamhead engineers could muster was 104 bhp after their $3,000.00 upgrade. The VROD is 106 bhp at the rear wheel. So do your research first. And to the loser on the FJR1300, GET A LIFE. I'm more that willing to give you a run for your money.
There's a Few as Guest Right Now Reading this Thread! :sinister:

Yep...we're snooping....lol

Guys, I am a Warrior owner. I come here in peace :hidesbeh: . I am not here to defend anyone, but rather explain some things. As you all are proud V-Rod owners, we are all Proud RSWarrior owners. These bikes both came out in 2002, and are natural rivals. Ironically, HD came out with an overhead cam liquid cooled V-Twinn unlike its predecessors, and Yamaha like wise with the push rod, air cooled V-Twinn.

I think if you read most of the posts, you will find that most of the members have respect for the V-Rod. In fact, I almost bought one before I bought the Warrior. But of coarse with Rivals, comes trash talk. I don't think that I had participated in it, maybe I have, I doubt it. I have never had a run in with a V-Rod, and really don't think that I would beat one in a race anyway. Maybe!!! LOL!! The thing that got me, was the price difference. 21,000 vs 10,000 at the time I bought mine back in 2002. I could hardly justify the price difference.

The recall, well, the possibility that the tranny would lock up was there, but not likely. It didn't happen to one member of the forum, except one that it happened after he had the recall done and was the fault of the dealer that did the recall... Yamaha, had seen that it had happened to a couple bikes and freaked, simple as that. At least they saw the potential problem and lawsuits and acted on it... I should say that HD had some situations that they should have done the same...

Handy capping, I believe they added 100lbs to the Warrior as it is so light(600lbs in stock form). I will do a little research to find out for sure, as this is brought up from memory...

There are some hard core people in the RSWarrior forum, I am one of them. There are some Arrogant people out there, and unfortunately, they seem to ride a certain type of bike. Now, don't get me wrong, I am not slamming anyone, at least I don't really mean to. I just want to make a point. That doesn't mean that I am talking about you, personally, ya know what I mean!? I am friendly with all bikers, from mopeds, to Busa, to HD and everything in between. I wish I could say the same for all bikers... I love HD, and if you research my forum, you will find that I have said that many times. Yet, I love my Warrior more, now that I have owned it. Doesn't mean that I will not own another HD. I am sure that there are some that slam here, no doubt, it is everywhere... That is what competing is about in a way. You can take it in stride and take humor in it, or get mad. I usually just take it in stride and try to lighten the situation...

I have had some run ins with other bikers that instantly have an attitude, and unfortunately they are either Sporty riders, or HD riders. They seem to stick together. I don't know why this phenomenon takes effect, but it is a fact. I have always tried to be freindly to all bikers, even when I rode my HD. Hell I used to bash, and still do bash my buddies old peice of crap pan head that bearly gets to the curb with out loosing all the bolts, lol. He knows it is, why denie it? But he loves that old bike...

Well, I think that I have rambled enough! Just gotta say one more thing, you may notice that the bashing is usually driven by the rider of the bike, what ever it may be, but not always I assume...

ON THAT NOTE--- Ride safe, and race a Warrior, get beaten, LOL!


REDBULLSSG rswarrior.com member

The do have ROD envy. If any YAMHEADS are snooping then all they have to do is get the data that was ran by MOTORCYCLE.COM. During their camparo, the VROD smoked the living daylights out of the warrior. The most horsepower that the Yamhead engineers could muster was 104 bhp after their $3,000.00 upgrade. The VROD is 106 bhp at the rear wheel. So do your research first. And to the loser on the FJR1300, GET A LIFE. I'm more that willing to give you a run for your money.
I must say, who did the upgrade for 3,000? For 3,000 will go much further than that on the Warrior. For testimonial, there are countless owners that have done upgrades recently and are getting 119rwhp, and 134rwftlbs of torque. The Warrior is known more for it's torque anyhow. What was mentioned probably was the Yamaha kit, which is inflated in price and not the best...

I wonder how much $$ it would cost to get a V-Rod to match the Warriors torque....or can it be done?

There are lots of 115hp/125-135ft/lb Warriors running around that when all is said and done still cost less out the door than a stock V-Rod's MSRP, let alone the gouging that happened early on....you easily could set up a street driven Warrior to run 9's all day long for that kind of $$ and still have change left over to buy those tassle things they sell at the HD shops that go on the end of your bars for some reason (?!?!).

Remember guys, these are cruisers, torque is king. Kinda like the torque a big block muscle car makes vs reving the crap out of a 1.8 liter Honda Civic to make it go fast.

I wonder how much $$ it would cost to get a V-Rod to match the Warriors torque....or can it be done?

There are lots of 115hp/125-135ft/lb Warriors running around that when all is said and done still cost less out the door than a stock V-Rod's MSRP, let alone the gouging that happened early on....you easily could set up a street driven Warrior to run 9's all day long for that kind of $$ and still have change left over to buy those tassle things they sell at the HD shops that go on the end of your bars for some reason (?!?!).

Remember guys, these are cruisers, torque is king. Kinda like the torque a big block muscle car makes vs reving the crap out of a 1.8 liter Honda Civic to make it go fast.
Welcome My Bike Brothers! :kaz: The Price is HUGE"Back in 02" on the V-rod's and I was one of the SUCKERS that paid 5k over sticker! :banghead: It's suck but I love my V-rods!TorqueKingI'm at close to 200rwtq and 250rwhp with my Turbo V-rod But thats Not Fair!We are a Very Proud and Cocky Bunch ,but in a Goodway!It will be Nice to Keep Our friendly Riviry and Maybe Have a Forums Get together some time.Will be Rooting for Our Favorite AMA Prostar Racers and there a Few OTHER Events comming Up where we can continue out Freindly Competitions! :vrodforu: Even if Your Ride a Warrior! ;) :kaz:

OK call it snooping, but dont call it envy, I could have bought any bike I wanted, and I wanted a Warrior. And I for one really appreciate Harley introducing the VROD , because the big twins just arn't much competition.
And please dont stereotype all 3800+ of th members as VROD bashers, because we arn't, we all love to ride as much as we like being differen't. See ya The Neck

LOL Well you guys can tell you got the attention of the warrior forum now.

As far as the trash talk goes, both parties (Vrod and Warrior owners) are guilty. It's like the age old Ford vs Chevy (or whatever your preference) rivalvries. I'm not blind or try to deny that in stock trim, the Vrod will outrun a Warrior. HOWEVER, where the Warrior shines in handling and braking. Let's make some comparisons here:

1130 cc vs. 1670 cc engines
ohc vs. pushrod valvetrain
water cooled vs. air cooled
9000 rpm redline vs. 5500 rpm redline
32 degrees max lean vs. 40 degrees max lean
180 series tire vs. 200 series tire
5.6 inch ground clearance vs. 6.1 inch ground clearance
292 mm front brakes vs 298 mm front brakes
Porche designed and engineered vs. Yamaha design and engineer

So for all intensive purposes, technically these two bikes aren't in the same class. Now I personally consider the VTX the ultimate rival as there are far more similarities between the two. If I was to think of an equivalent for the Vrod.....I'd say Vmax. Same engine size (within a 70 cc anyway), same redline, same weight. Makes one wonder where HD got the idea from anyway....LOL J/K. Basically, it's like trying to compare a Busa to an R1 or a G1K..........not the same. I bought my bike to ride and not worry about what everyone else things. I've got 40,000 miles on it now and no I haven't had the recall service done on mine yet. Not concerned with it. It would have failed by now with the way I ride. :deal:

To be honest, I thought of getting the Vrod first. I saw the show on the Vrod (didn't everybody?? LOL) and thought it was the shit. Was all fine and dandy until I found out that I could buy a base model Corvette for what the dealers were asking. I personally can't see paying that much for a bike. It's not a matter of finances, it's a matter of taste and priorities. I'm not going to go out and spend $4,000+ dollars on a Rolex watch either.

To sum up this small book (LOL), ride what you like and don't be stupid on the roads and be civil to ALL fellow biker brothers. I'll ride with anyone (on any type/brand of bike) as long as they aren't squid riders. Friendly "grudge" matches are fun as they should be. You win some, you lose some. ALWAYS someone out there faster. I wish everyone was as laid back as I was when it comes to brand loyalty (and the feuds that result from it), but alas, I guess it's not to be.

If you just HAVE to run me if you are in the area, yeah, you'll take me on the straight, but watch out for the first turn cause you'll see me cut way low inside and buzz past ya.:deal: It's all in fun. Everyone should quite their bitchin' and go ride!!!

Later,

JJ

<putting on flame resistant suit>

Damn, all these bloody Yammie riders come on our forum and act all civil with the nice words and good attitude. Whats the world coming to? They sound like v-rodders - nice people, bit different from the crowd, proud of their rides and respectful bikers. I haven't surfed their forum, or seen the trash talk other than as posted in here. What I see from the guys who have come on here and shared some thoughts makes them alright in my eyes. Cheers fellas, I'll buy any of you a beer. :cheers:

Well, when the v-rods first came out I didn't like them. They just didn't look like a Harley. When I decided that it was time to buy a bike (ealier this year) I did my first shopping on paper. I had decided that the Warrior was the way to go. I looked at them, sat on them, etc. and changed my mind. Then I decided the Honda VTX 1800 would be the thing. While looking at them I saw the new color of the 04 rods.

I now own an '04 impact blue rod. I know it cost more than the Honda and has a smaller displacement motor - but it just looks so damned good!

One thing about owning a Harley. When you meet other people on bikes you don't have to make an excuse as to why you bought it (I always hear rice burner owners justifying their purchase - it was cheaper, it runs faster, etc. etc. - but don't get mad at me 'cause I used to do it too).

Also, my brother-in-law was on the phone with my wife while we were at the dealer looking at the rod. He was happy when he learned that I decided to buy the rod. Like he said - "Friends don't let friends ride Honda's"

:ride:

Those warrior boys seem like good folk. You can't blame them for defending their ride. I'd sure like to run one. Any local warriors wanna play?

It seems to me that each year it gets a little easier for guys (and girls) to ride together on (very) different bikes...

It's not about Harleys I say, It's about two-wheelin'....quit di((in' around and ride!

I agree totally, I wish all would drop the attitude myself. I am Glad to see that we can get along.

I must say that you guys have a very nice site here. I checked out your video section last night. There is some funny shtuff in there! Call it snooping, I call it curiosity!

I agree totally, I wish all would drop the attitude myself. I am Glad to see that we can get along.

I must say that you guys have a very nice site here. I checked out your video section last night. There is some funny shtuff in there! Call it snooping, I call it curiosity!
Redbullssg, :vrodforu:
You and all Your Warrior Friends/Members are welcome anytime!Once we all get to know one another a little Ball Busting :stilpoke: is alright in Fun,but we have a Pretty strict Policy on insults and fighting.Not sure what site You guy frequent but if you would like to leave a Link :sinister: .I'm sure a few of us would be Curious about your stuff too! ;) :kaz:

Kaz there site is http://www.rswarrior.com but please if anyone visits lets please be respectful that it is there site.

I ride with all kinds and we all give each other a hard time in fun. But not with a warrior and would like to.

Kaz there site is http://www.rswarrior.com but please if anyone visits lets please be respectful that it is there site.
Ya I just found it.Not allot of Kind words.What V-rods are they Racing and Beating? :bs: I tried to register but my Laptop is tripping out so they are SAFE for Now! :sinister:

Yeah, the guys who came and posted seem like nice guys :thumb:
Some friendly rivalry is good :cheers:

Ya I just found it.Not allot of Kind words.What V-rods are they Racing and Beating? :bs: I tried to register but my Laptop is tripping out so they are SAFE for Now! :sinister:
LOL! I wouldn't think I would beat one in a race, but if I did, and I do beleive that it happens, it was because they lacked riding skills, not because the bike is inferior. THanks for the invite! I am from RSWARRIOR.COM (www.rswarrior.com) by the way. Been there since almost the begining. I invite all here to check out our forums. The rules are the same as here I am sure. Yes there probably is some bashing of HD there, but there are also alot of riders there that went from HD to Yami, but still love HD, myself included. People have their oppinions, it is just whether they can open their minds. I can personally say that I have had bad experiences with HD riders since I have been riding Yamaha again, but I don't hold the bike(HD) to blame, ya know what I mean!? MOst of the time forums like these bring people with common interests together. What makes our two forums diffent? We all share the same common interest when it comes down to it, and I think most everyone at RSWarrior.com will agree with me, as I think that you all will also... For me, personally, it is the wind in my face, the smells in the air, the freedom of movement, the time to think, the full unabscured veiw, the roar of my pipes, the thrill of the torque in a launch, the attention the bike that Iam riding gets, everything about a Motorcycle!!! I absolutly LOVE my RS Warrior, but if I owned a GSXR 1000, HD Soft tail, Victory Vagas, Honda Rune, VTX, or V-Rod, I am sure that I would be as proud of an owner... :thumb:

Yeah, the guys who came and posted seem like nice guys :thumb:
Some friendly rivalry is good :cheers:
Thanks guys!!! :ride:

Hey guys, another Warrior rider here from Texas. When I first saw the Vrod, i admired it for it's styling and daring. I didn't really care for it right off the bat. These newer models, now that they have added color to them, are pretty hot. The more I see them the more I appreciate them. I bought my warrior because when I saw it, I fell in love with it much like everyone who buys a bike. I didn't buy it 'cause I couldn't afford anything else. :)

I have many friends who are Harley riders and we all get along just fine with some friendly ribbing here and there. Just think of it this way... if the Vrods weren't out there, who would we compete with? You should take it a compliment that all the warriors want to race a vrod. The majority of us admit that the vrod is a faster back, stock vs stock. But some of us are gaining lol

You can't take everything to heart what you see in our boards much like we won't do the same. Like Redbull and some of the others have said, we're mostly a good bunch of guys too... with just a few sore ones in the mix.

I would think it an honor to meet up with some of you guys out on the road at one time or another and twist it up. :stooge: A few of us here in the Houston area go out to Houston Raceway Park in Baytown every so often and hit the Friday night drags. I would warmly welcome any of you that would like to come on out too!!

Peace...

Chris

Any of the Warriors riders/racers from near Western PA - we could set up a friendly race session - heads up and/or bracket - I could probably get a few VRods out there - July 11th we have a big 1500 bike day coming up w/bike shows and racing - any interest?

Well I had to check it out went over and read the 4 pages mostly ok comments but some of the stuff is laughable as far as the warrior being a better looking and faster bike it is a joke. Those guy's are totally bashing anyone that is not a warrior lover and talking about V-rod guy's like they are that way. I looked at warriors before I bought the v-rod as far as looks that's funny. V-rod rules LOL :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

LOL! I wouldn't think I would beat one in a race, but if I did, and I do beleive that it happens, it was because they lacked riding skills, not because the bike is inferior. THanks for the invite! I am from RSWARRIOR.COM (www.rswarrior.com) by the way. Been there since almost the begining. I invite all here to check out our forums. The rules are the same as here I am sure. Yes there probably is some bashing of HD there, but there are also alot of riders there that went from HD to Yami, but still love HD, myself included. People have their oppinions, it is just whether they can open their minds. I can personally say that I have had bad experiences with HD riders since I have been riding Yamaha again, but I don't hold the bike(HD) to blame, ya know what I mean!? MOst of the time forums like these bring people with common interests together. What makes our two forums diffent? We all share the same common interest when it comes down to it, and I think most everyone at RSWarrior.com will agree with me, as I think that you all will also... For me, personally, it is the wind in my face, the smells in the air, the freedom of movement, the time to think, the full unabscured veiw, the roar of my pipes, the thrill of the torque in a launch, the attention the bike that Iam riding gets, everything about a Motorcycle!!! I absolutly LOVE my RS Warrior, but if I owned a GSXR 1000, HD Soft tail, Victory Vagas, Honda Rune, VTX, or V-Rod, I am sure that I would be as proud of an owner... :thumb:
I tried to register but never got an email to confirm it.

LOL, that's cause they have special software that can tell you ride a v-rod. :)

HA, special software? What does it do, look for leaking oil in the computer somwhere :)
I'm glad to have started this, I feel like the guy on the miller beer commercial that says "it's less filling" and waiting for somebody to say "it tastes great". I have to admit, I like giving V-rods a hard time, I like giving HD owners a hard time, old habits die hard. It's only fair, everybody I ride with, rides HD and I hear a never ending string of it. Since none of my friends own a V-rod, I get to grin, knowing that most of the smartass comments are happening behind me somewhere.
I don't care what anybody rides and good natured ribbing and razzing is all fun and games and I can take it as well as dish it, be it about bikes or anything else. When somebody completely looks down their nose at me as if they are better than me because of something they purchased, that'll bug me regardless of what it is they own. I worked with a guy once that told me "you should buy a BMW or a Mercedes, you'd meet a better class of women". That dude put up with endless cracks about everything I could think of about him for years. Like the fact that if he bought a better brain, he wouldn't make pinhead comments like that all the time. Like I want to hang out with a class of women that like me for my car.
Anyway, I'll race a V-rod one day and I don't care it I lose or win, I just want to play. It sude wouldn't make me a better or worse person regardless of the result. I'll continue to tease my HD friends, they'll continue to tease me and for every remark somebody can make about my choices being poor, I can usually find at least one remark about their choices being poor.
Ride fast, ride safe and look out for moose

Dennis

OKIE, try it again, it shouldn't discriminate, unless there is something wrong. The site has been a bite slow today for some reason, and doing strange things...

OKIE, try it again, it shouldn't discriminate, unless there is something wrong. The site has been a bite slow today for some reason, and doing strange things...
There is a warrior joke in there somewhere bro. :angeldev:
But hey, in all seriousness, you guys are alot more mean spirited than I anticipated. I read some posts that go back to 2 years ago, and i was very suprised byt the comments. :spank:
Personally, I love Yamaha's. I am currently shopping for a second bike, probably an R6. :kaz:

LOL, that's cause they have special software that can tell you ride a v-rod. :)
I'AM REGISTARED MY PASS WORD IS VROD. THERE SITE HAS PROBLEMS
SO I CAN'T UPLOAD SOME THINGS I WANT TO SHOW THEM,I'LL WAIT. :moon:
BUT ANYWAY IF YOUR ON TWO WHEELS YOUR ALLRIGHT WITH ME,
I OWNED A VMAX FOR TEN YEARS AND HARLEY FINALLY MADE A BIKE
THAT AT LEAST (MINE) IS BETTER AND FASTER,IT'S ALL ABOUT OPINIONS
AND THERE LIKE A-HOLES WE ALL GOT THEM AND THEY ALL STINK! (AT
LEAST TO SOMEONE ELSE.) :ride:

Compare the warrior is not that cheap in this pic it is 12500 that high for a ricer. LOL Just kidding

Warrior is a nice looking bike...

There is a warrior joke in there somewhere bro. :angeldev: :Not sure what you mean?

But hey, in all seriousness, you guys are alot more mean spirited than I anticipated. I read some posts that go back to 2 years ago, and i was very suprised byt the comments. :spank:
Personally, I love Yamaha's. I am currently shopping for a second bike, probably an R6. :kazYou say "you guys". There are over 3000 members, ~not all do that. I could probably do a search here and find some bad comments on the Warrior, it really doesn't interest me to do that though... Ya know what I mean? I am sure there is alot of mis information in both the forums. I am not going to point out who is wrong and who is right, that is not me. I think that Rivalry is a good thing also as other have said. I hope that instead of people getting pissed off or something, I would like a common ground to bring us all together. The forums are a great place for that, dont' you think? I have good stories and I have bad stories of other riders, even friends that think their bike is better than all and carry thier big heads on a separate trailer. But odviously that isn't everyone, right? Being proud is one thing, to put someone down is another in my book.

Now, excuse me, I am going to check out ur site a little more. Do you all have a gallery section?

Compare the warrior is not that cheap in this pic it is 12500 that high for a ricer. LOL Just kidding
I mostly eat pork with my rice, LOL!!!

I mostly eat pork with my rice, LOL!!!
Hm... Doesn't sound kosher. :stilpoke: :rofl:

Hm... Doesn't sound kosher. :stilpoke: :rofl:
I'm kiddin too!!! common guys :hidesbeh: :vrod:

Oh, how many here are from MICHIGAN?

We have a midwest registry thread, check it out.

we have a gallery...some nice rides in it. just click the gallery link.

Nice looking ride Red - is it yours?
KSP

Any of the Warriors riders/racers from near Western PA - we could set up a friendly race session - heads up and/or bracket - I could probably get a few VRods out there - July 11th we have a big 1500 bike day coming up w/bike shows and racing - any interest?


Hey bud...I'm from western Pa. Where abouts are you from? I live near Indiana, Pa. I have a warrior and would like to give it a whirl for some fun. Any of you guys heading to thunder in the valley over the weekend? I should be down there on fri night and saturday. Look for the warrior with the fat azz on the rear....that's me. :thumb:

Yep, it's mine. I will be checking out mor of your rides, there are some bad ass rides in there. I still love the V-Rod...

my Ride~~~ http://www.rswarrior.com/members/memberdetails.asp?handle=redbullssg

Nice looking ride Warstar!
the big tire really sets the looks off.

Thanks shawn.....I started messing with my sig and lost the pic now. Here's my ride for anyone who would like to check it out. I think I'm about done with it, "this year anyway". I just got it back on the road after engine mods and now it's time to ride....finally! http://www.rswarrior.com/members/memberdetails.asp?handle=warstar

Compare the warrior is not that cheap in this pic it is 12500 that high for a ricer. LOL Just kidding

That's funny, that's what some of my friends said. Told me they had a good used sportster for sale I could have gotten into. I had a license cover that said "puffed rice" for awhile, before it fell apart in Wyoming somewhere.

This is a coold site, lot's of interesting stuff here

we have a gallery...some nice rides in it. just click the gallery link.
Ya Check out that Guy in the Elf Suits Turbo and NOS V-rods!He Nuts,and will Race ANYTHING! :diablo:
Look up Super Kaz in the Gallery. :angeldev:

How do I fnd the gallery? Still trying to figure out how this site navigates.

How do I fnd the gallery? Still trying to figure out how this site navigates.
Maybe one of Our Pro's can type a Link!I'm a Computer :lamer:

http://www.v-rodforums.com/photopost

You can follow that link or click on the forum that says photo gallery or you can click on the gallery link from the front page or near the top banner of the forum. :)

anybody want a nice cheap Harley... Guys like this make me feel brilliant. I figure most people can appreciate true stupidity in all it's glory
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50008&item=2482351439&rd=1

"Handy capping, I believe they added 100lbs to the Warrior as it is so light(600lbs in stock form)."




Can someone tell us for sure who's strapping it on?

OKIE I think the two bikes are very similar in weight, if memory serves me they handicap the v-rod not because of weight but because of the overhead cams. Even though it is 570cc smaller the overhead cams are a big advantage for it so they tacked an extra 50lbs on the V-Rod.

Warstar - I sent you a PM
Kevin

The v-rod is a tad lighter stock then the Warrior (probably because in stock form, the warrior stock exhaust weighs as much as a small elephant), there was a low weight limit and in order for the traditional V-twins to compete, both the warrior and the V-rod had to add weight. Because the V-rod had overhead cams, it was packing more weight than the warrior. Now they are reducing the weight added to the V-rod and I think the difference is showing at the track. If it weren't for both bikes running, there'd be no competition (there isn't much anyway) in the class either one would have run away with it.

I find myself in a special situation while reading this since I do like the Warrior and ended up on a V-Rod. I hated the exhaust can thing and the wide bars on the Warrior, I hate that the V-Rod being so expensive has laughable mirrors and never realised service could be so full of it. I'm no HD loyal, never was, see no reason for any brand specific loyalty, these are just products assembled with the purpose of making a buck. They serve us. However and this is what made my own decision. I tried them and the V-Rod's acceleration, speed, and looks won it over for my own tastes. I'm loyal to the Rod because it works great. HD offers insurance only if you finance with them and no other brand has any type of insurance on the island. I had my 2002 R1 stolen after a cash payment of aprox $11000 bucks. OUCHi! Police never called with the long awaited "we've got a blue R-1 stuck to a wall with a lot of tissue around, waiting on the coroner, I think it's yours" thing. But I can dream. Anyway, what's the real street experience? I have modded my V-Rod, race my own shadow (not a honda PLEASE :rolleyes: ), and got to say there is a metric cruiser craze here. Out of several Warriors, several have been beaten on the street by me if I may say so myself. It's an easy hook up thing. Warriors are the fastest metric cruiser around, them guys get cocky just like us kids doing anything, see the V-Rod and the pssst, pssst, secrets close to the ear and finger pointing start, takes all of 30 secs. First runner up! One two three, beers I mean, that day we raced for one beer as usual at Shannan's pub where we get together when cops start chasing the kids on the civics and integras from the mall. Juan may know where it is I'm talking about and yes I hope I'll be this immature when I grow up from 36. One of them guys owns supermarkets, has more money than I can dream of and still got the Warrior, it's not a money thing for the true enthusiast, I know he'll do something radical and maybe kick my ass on that great looking and fast blue thing, he was their last card. Since I want to not get beaten what is it you guys with the Warrior doing to modify the thing and make it so fast? I mean specifics. He's been around saying how he'll beat that V-Rod, ol'friend of mine, and as such I know him, I'm having me this fun even if he shows up with a turbo, then I'll loose so what? Important thing is the fun but the three warrior story is true and not the only ones. I wanna see some fast warriors out there and maybe I could help out some of the Warrior guys here on the island, maybe just send them to your forum. PM me if you will and/or think this would be soooo off topic. Interested much. Wanna buy a cheapo sportie :rolleyes: ? I hate it and I love it. Change it for a Raptor 660 and money or one of those turbo or supercharged jet skis, maybe another R-1 or gixxer. Either way it's going down :tmbsdow: unless the bro decides and buys it from me.

All of us with 02's and 03's were forced into a transmission recall. The dealer picked up 9.5 hours of labor and many of us were ready for internal work anyway. I'd guess that roughly 1/2 the 02 and 03 warriors had something done internally this year. Why not, they were taking it apart anyway and 9.5 hours of free labor is pretty good isn't it? Many of us kicked up the compression, slipped in some cams and got head work done. I figured with 9.5 hours free and 24k on the bike in two years, I'd go ahead and play some (justification is a wonderful thing) I added a couple of cubic inches and am running just shy of 107 HP and 134 foot pounds. I was told if I got better intake and exhaust, it'd kick it up a few more. I have close to v-rod money into my bike already with all the additions I've done (so it's not a money issue on my choice). I knew whatever I bought, half of it would be lying on the garage floor being replaced with stuff I liked better.
There is one turbo kit done and one just about done and there are several people running NOS in various forms of right out there in the open to hidden.
I find myself in a special situation while reading this since I do like the Warrior and ended up on a V-Rod. I hated the exhaust can thing and the wide bars on the Warrior, I hate that the V-Rod being so expensive has laughable mirrors and never realised service could be so full of it. I'm no HD loyal, never was, see no reason for any brand specific loyalty, these are just products assembled with the purpose of making a buck. They serve us. However and this is what made my own decision. I tried them and the V-Rod's acceleration, speed, and looks won it over for my own tastes. I'm loyal to the Rod because it works great. HD offers insurance only if you finance with them and no other brand has any type of insurance on the island. I had my 2002 R1 stolen after a cash payment of aprox $11000 bucks. OUCHi! Police never called with the long awaited "we've got a blue R-1 stuck to a wall with a lot of tissue around, waiting on the coroner, I think it's yours" thing. But I can dream. Anyway, what's the real street experience? I have modded my V-Rod, race my own shadow (not a honda PLEASE :rolleyes: ), and got to say there is a metric cruiser craze here. Out of several Warriors, several have been beaten on the street by me if I may say so myself. It's an easy hook up thing. Warriors are the fastest metric cruiser around, them guys get cocky just like us kids doing anything, see the V-Rod and the pssst, pssst, secrets close to the ear and finger pointing start, takes all of 30 secs. First runner up! One two three, beers I mean, that day we raced for one beer as usual at Shannan's pub where we get together when cops start chasing the kids on the civics and integras from the mall. Juan may know where it is I'm talking about and yes I hope I'll be this immature when I grow up from 36. One of them guys owns supermarkets, has more money than I can dream of and still got the Warrior, it's not a money thing for the true enthusiast, I know he'll do something radical and maybe kick my ass on that great looking and fast blue thing, he was their last card. Since I want to not get beaten what is it you guys with the Warrior doing to modify the thing and make it so fast? I mean specifics. He's been around saying how he'll beat that V-Rod, ol'friend of mine, and as such I know him, I'm having me this fun even if he shows up with a turbo, then I'll loose so what? Important thing is the fun but the three warrior story is true and not the only ones. I wanna see some fast warriors out there and maybe I could help out some of the Warrior guys here on the island, maybe just send them to your forum. PM me if you will and/or think this would be soooo off topic. Interested much. Wanna buy a cheapo sportie :rolleyes: ? I hate it and I love it. Change it for a Raptor 660 and money or one of those turbo or supercharged jet skis, maybe another R-1 or gixxer. Either way it's going down :tmbsdow: unless the bro decides and buys it from me.

OKIE, Rick Nielson was kind enough to send me this information about the weight.

Screamin' Eagle Team Under The Gun at Gateway

NHRA Rule Change Adds 40lbs. of Weight; Timing Forces Team to Test during Race

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

MILWAUKEE, Wis. (June 24, 2004) - The Screamin’ Eagle/Vance & Hines team will be under the gun at Gateway International Raceway this weekend since the NHRA announced on Tuesday night an unprecedented rule amendment which changed the minimum weight for Pro Stock Bike push rod V-Twins from 575 pounds to 615 pounds. The rule change essentially becomes effective June 25 for the start of this weekend’s Sears Craftsman Nationals and does not give the team enough time to test the 40-pound weight increase before the start of the event.

"NHRA’s decision came as quite a shock to us. The timing and magnitude of the rule change is very frustrating at this point in the season, and since the team leaves for Gateway today, we will have no time to test before the race. But this team has overcome so much adversity, we believe we’ll get through this," said Screamin’ Eagle Racing Manager Anne Paluso.

"It will be tough to overcome the forty pound penalty and get back to a competitive position. Short term, we are very concerned about the effect of that much weight on the bike's launch and down track performance. Without time for testing, we will have to use some or all of this weekend's qualifying sessions to assure we still have competent motorcycles," said Bob Farchione, Harley-Davidson Parts and Accessories chief engineer.

After six rounds of NHRA Pro Stock Bike competition, Screamin’ Eagle rider Andrew Hines leads the class with 604 points, 185 points ahead of Suzuki rider Shawn Gann, in second with 419 points. Screamin’ Eagle rider GT Tonglet is third with 393 points.

Screamin' Eagle Performance Parts are inspired by and built in the spirit of the raw adrenaline and power of motorcycle racing. Screamin' Eagle Pro parts are specifically designed for race-use applications, while Screamin' Eagle parts offer street-use performance options for the Harley-Davidson motorcycle owner. Visit www.harley-davidson.com for more information.

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Hey bud...I'm from western Pa. Where abouts are you from? I live near Indiana, Pa...

I grew up in that part of the country. Went to Marion Center High School in the late '70s. Haven't been back in over 10 years. I'm in northern Virginia now. Anyone going to the Carlisle bike show this summer? Might be a good place to meet-n-greet. Isn't there a race track there somewhere? :)

Mark

Thanks Max and Rick. Thats for NHRA prostock pushrod class? Got any info on the AMA Prostar cruisers?

ahh, I thought you were talking about the prostar hotrod crusier class, v-rods are getting their weight reduced in that class. Unless I read something wrong

uhhh, is the NHRA prostreet pushrod v-twin class the same as AMA prostar hot rod cruisers? If it is pardon me for being confused.
I found the rule book. page 78 http://www.amaprostar.com/rulebook/Prostar04Rulebook.pdf

Thanks Max and Rick. Thats for NHRA prostock pushrod class? Got any info on the AMA Prostar cruisers?

Hope this helps
Hot Rod Cruiser
Page 76, 4.3.5.2.1 Approval: (change) Minimum weight at St.Louis event: SOHC or DOHC 750 lbs, push rods 725 lbs, any configuration with a stroker crank 775 lbs. Minimum weight beginning at the Norwalk event: SOHC or DOHC 725 lbs,
push rods 700 lbs, any configuration with a stroker crank 750 lbs.
(add)

O.K. so the warrior gets a 25lb. advantage. Thats what we thought.

used to be even more I believe, still trying to download the rules prior to the change

I posted a link. page 78

Thanks Max and Rick. Thats for NHRA prostock pushrod class? Got any info on the AMA Prostar cruisers?
GO TO AMA/PROSTAR.COM
(ALSO EAGLE H.D. HAS A LITTLE SOMTHING FOR THE YAM'S THIS
WEEKEND.) :plause:

Uh, the V rod is running a pushrod class in NHRA?

Hello fellas, a Warrior rider here. Thought I would nose around your site a little. Hmmm, looks a lot like ours just not quite as nice. Trying to copy us again huh? LOL. Now dont go getting all uptight, just kidding a little.

Seriously, your V-Rod offers the only real competition for us Warrior drivers, even if your bike is more like a crotch-rocket than a "power-cruiser". So naturally there is going to be some rivalry here. I wouldn't mind running a V-Rod in the 1/4 mile. It would be interesting. Could my torque hold off your horsepower? Hmmm.

Seriously, your V-Rod offers the only real competition for us Warrior drivers, even if your bike is more like a crotch-rocket than a "power-cruiser". So naturally there is going to be some rivalry here. I wouldn't mind running a V-Rod in the 1/4 mile. It would be interesting. Could my torque hold off your horsepower? Hmmm.[/QUOTE]


Thats funny how do you figure the V-Rod is more like a crotch rocket than a cruiser. And remember boy's you are running a 1700 against an 1130 and stock to stock the warrior will get smoked. Sorry stirring the pot LOL

A response, kewl! Now whats wrong with a little pot stirring? LOL.

You redline at 9000, I at 5000. Your HP is what, 120 something? and low torque. That is consistent with CR's. A Warrior is just the opposite, high torque and low hp. More consistent with the cruisers.

Your bike is faster than a Warrior, top end, I'll give you that. It better be or you should get your money back. But in the 1/4 mile? I dunno, it would be fun to run them and see.

A response, kewl! Now whats wrong with a little pot stirring? LOL.

You redline at 9000, I at 5000. Your HP is what, 120 something? and low torque. That is consistent with CR's. A Warrior is just the opposite, high torque and low hp. More consistent with the cruisers.

Your bike is faster than a Warrior, top end, I'll give you that. It better be or you should get your money back. But in the 1/4 mile? I dunno, it would be fun to run them and see.

Where are you?

A response, kewl! Now whats wrong with a little pot stirring? LOL.

You redline at 9000, I at 5000. Your HP is what, 120 something? and low torque. That is consistent with CR's. A Warrior is just the opposite, high torque and low hp. More consistent with the cruisers.

Your bike is faster than a Warrior, top end, I'll give you that. It better be or you should get your money back. But in the 1/4 mile? I dunno, it would be fun to run them and see.
Bro, putting, rider skill aside, Stock vs. Stock, the V-Rod is almost 2 seconds quicker than the warrior in the quarter mile.

Before this goes any further lemme must clarify that I personally dont care if you ride a moped! The fact that you choose 2 wheels instead of 4 is okay with me and you'll never get dissed or an attitude if your around me.

4 wheels move the body, but 2 wheels move the soul. Know what I mean?

Amen brother, where are you?

Bro, putting, rider skill aside, Stock vs. Stock, the V-Rod is almost 2 seconds quicker than the warrior in the quarter mile.
from what I read, it's more like 1.2 which is pretty decent speed advantage at that. I read that in a Mag that does this crap constantly and launches bikes enough to have it down pretty well. I don't have a clue how the v-rod launches but there are guys taking the warrior to the track that have never raced before and matching or exceeding what the mag guys did. It truely is super easy to get off the line. Either way, it'd be fun to see and do because of the differences in where the power is

GO TO AMA/PROSTAR.COM
(ALSO EAGLE H.D. HAS A LITTLE SOMTHING FOR THE YAM'S THIS
WEEKEND.) :plause:

I'm interested in seeing what they've got, any links for info? I thought this competetion was pretty much losing steam and nobody wanted to compete in in anymore

washingtonwarrior, I think what my good friend Rick is talking about is the fact that Jamie is a member here and feels as though they may be onto a very good weekend if the changes they have recently made pan out, and when Jamie is only down by 21 points out the lead a good weekend could make all the difference.

Were all pulling for you Jamie

washingtonwarrior, I think what my good friend Rick is talking about is the fact that Jamie is a member here and feels as though they may be onto a very good weekend if the changes they have recently made pan out, and when Jamie is only down by 21 points out the lead a good weekend could make all the difference.

Were all pulling for you Jamie
Well, thanks for clearing that up, good luck to you and be safe.
:stooge: <---- I like these guys, it reminds me of home

A response, kewl! Now whats wrong with a little pot stirring? LOL.

You redline at 9000, I at 5000. Your HP is what, 120 something? and low torque. That is consistent with CR's. A Warrior is just the opposite, high torque and low hp. More consistent with the cruisers.

Your bike is faster than a Warrior, top end, I'll give you that. It better be or you should get your money back. But in the 1/4 mile? I dunno, it would be fun to run them and see.

All that torque just makes it harder for you to launch without flipping. It only takes a V-rod a blink of the eye to get to 5K and then it's by by. We don't get back under 7K after that so the torque thing aint helping much.

All of us with 02's and 03's were forced into a transmission recall. The dealer picked up 9.5 hours of labor and many of us were ready for internal work anyway. I'd guess that roughly 1/2 the 02 and 03 warriors had something done internally this year. Why not, they were taking it apart anyway and 9.5 hours of free labor is pretty good isn't it? Many of us kicked up the compression, slipped in some cams and got head work done. I figured with 9.5 hours free and 24k on the bike in two years, I'd go ahead and play some (justification is a wonderful thing) I added a couple of cubic inches and am running just shy of 107 HP and 134 foot pounds. I was told if I got better intake and exhaust, it'd kick it up a few more. I have close to v-rod money into my bike already with all the additions I've done (so it's not a money issue on my choice). I knew whatever I bought, half of it would be lying on the garage floor being replaced with stuff I liked better.
There is one turbo kit done and one just about done and there are several people running NOS in various forms of right out there in the open to hidden.
Cool! I am sure I'll get my ass kikced one day. No sarcasm. Just the way racing is. Always a bigger dog smewhere. Bit worried. Hoped not to start anything girly with this. Crying :sad: and ignorant ignoring making me sick :rolleyes: !

Who makes the turbo? What's the best kit or whatever available for internal mods in your experience? I gotta tell this guy. We may have some warrior fun. It's a very cool bike and just a bit less radical than the Rod, they should make it water cooled, slap on an R1 motor on it. Kidding but kidding aside really tell me. I'm tempted with the V-Rod and still reluctant to crack it open but mostly it's such a nice ride I don't wanna part with it even for a month or two. It's not broken so I'm ot fixing anything. For now :sinister: ;) . However the POS sportster has been appart in pieces :diablo: .

You guys seem very cool to deal with. I expected no less with how good it's here with the sport. Much easier than mostly non V-Rodding HD loyals at the VTF, also a great site with great people. The V-Rod seems to have more trouble with HD loyals than with metric cruiser guys. I believe that just confirms a lot of my pre V-Rod beliefs and I'm not getting into it because I am the other way and will not be a dinosaur myself. Again it's just my own experience. Search "Hatred of the V-Rod what gives" thing here, it's fun then a bit boring.

You have a person in your forum proud to have beaten a 1200 sportster with a probably modified warrior and another one glad he beat a V-Rod with an FJR. That's the weakest I've heard in my short lived forum life. Nothing to do with your site or the warrior. The UK guy goes "I smiled all morning, it was so easy, like taking candy from babies .... not that I expected any other sort of outcome, but simple things please simple minds." I agree, he does have a simple mind, wouldn't you agree? That black sportie I posted, I'd like to race it with this guy, satan is within and he drives it too. It still looks stock on the outside except for some FUGLY thunderheader POS making it propel forward pretty fast, there's carbing, jetting, massaging, new pistoning, and head working then some other ings. Wanna bet? And come get some candy. ALL because then he writes "true but .... they need it coz the're weak!" Who's "the're"? I'm starting to feel implicated here. Weak? WEAK? Yeah! I guess he's weak with such generalisations and taking on a sportster. Come down here and I'm not even gonna start the Rod. I'm not even dedicating any time to the FJR person. YES be rowdy, confrontational maybe, have fun, but be smart. An abuser and a bully? To these kind of people I'd say. Come and play. Gimme two. "Special agent Utah, gimme two." Can you guys hear me laughing? Or should I nowtake on a scooter . JA! See ya!

Now that's the kind of response I appreciate. Just when I was planning on bragging about being able to outrun the neighbors dog (which is the main thing I need to outrun) I hesitate in telling the story. There are more than one story about outrunning a sportster over there.
I've personally raced nobody other than some clown in a vette that thought we were racing and I was merely trying to do a real quick break-in and set my rings. I haven't got a clue how I'll do. I have a lot of torque but even that makes me nervous having already snapped two belts at launch, Being edgy about snapping a belt would possibly lose me any advantage I may have from the line. I think I just need to go to the track to test this thing out.

Patrick racing and Orient express both are putting together a turbo and both are the companies that probably sold the majority of internals for the recall. Although yamaha does sell a speedstar kit for the warrior that a lot of people also put in.

Now that's the kind of response I appreciate. Just when I was planning on bragging about being able to outrun the neighbors dog (which is the main thing I need to outrun) I hesitate in telling the story. There are more than one story about outrunning a sportster over there.
I've personally raced nobody other than some clown in a vette that thought we were racing and I was merely trying to do a real quick break-in and set my rings. I haven't got a clue how I'll do. I have a lot of torque but even that makes me nervous having already snapped two belts at launch, Being edgy about snapping a belt would possibly lose me any advantage I may have from the line. I think I just need to go to the track to test this thing out.

Patrick racing and Orient express both are putting together a turbo and both are the companies that probably sold the majority of internals for the recall. Although yamaha does sell a speedstar kit for the warrior that a lot of people also put in.
CHAIN DRIVE!Get one ASAP! :whack:

Yeah, I've been kicking the idea of chain drive around for next winter, I'm doing nothing but riding for the remainder of the season.
Now I feel a bit more in touch with you guys after reading the "hatred of v-rod" thread (well I read some of it, it went on forever). The warrior owners have the same thing with traditionalist HD guys as well as a lot of (believe it or not) original roadstar guys that think it's not eally a roadstar (whatever that means). I didn't want a roadstar, it's just another bike trying to be harley clone. I thought the warrior was unique in the biking world as is the v-rod. It'd really blow a lot of peoples minds and get a lot of heads scratching if a large group of warriors and rods went tuling around someplace. The two fastestest bikes in the cruiser world in the most unlikely group.

I had to dig through the piles of cycle world mags to find this and waste an hour scanning and cropping to make it manageable on the site but thought that some might enjoy this article if you had not seen it before.

http://www.v-rodforums.com/labor/cycleworld-02.zip

Patrick racing and Orient express both are putting together a turbo and both are the companies that probably sold the majority of internals for the recall. Although yamaha does sell a speedstar kit for the warrior that a lot of people also put in.
Hey, love your bike. NICE :lick: ! Have you seen Frankenstein's Road Star Warrior :thumb: ? My God! If that's not a beautifuly done one I don't know what is. From the Warrior naive point of view I've got (not much Warrior know how with me) I'm finding it amazing. I was searching for the lambda probe thing while getting ready to walk the walk when I find out a link to your site from Mark, our top EFI dog here. Makes me want one. He's got AFR and pyrometer on his "dashboard".

I thought the warrior was unique in the biking world as is the v-rod. It'd really blow a lot of peoples minds and get a lot of heads scratching if a large group of warriors and rods went tuling around someplace. The two fastestest bikes in the cruiser world in the most unlikely group.
LOL. I agree. And I do. Last group ride was my V-Rod :sinister: , my sportster 1200C :diablo: (bro piloting), a Shadow 750 :rolleyes: ;) , an ever present Honda XX Blackbird :thumb: , two RoadStars :) , a VTX1300 :rolleyes: , and a VTX1800 :moon: (yes, he went down hard :tmbsdow: as do I with the XX by like a mile :sad: ).

I had to dig through the piles of cycle world mags to find this and waste an hour scanning and cropping to make it manageable on the site but thought that some might enjoy this article if you had not seen it before.

http://www.v-rodforums.com/labor/cycleworld-02.zipI know it's three in a row but at the risk of spoiling Max I gotta say that to great length he goes to make this what I feel like the coolest site on the internet. Thanks for the articles.

Sorry this is so late getting back to you Okie, I've been adding modes to close that 2 second gap thing. LOL.

Seriously, you guys seem pretty kewl. But a race would be fun just because of the difference in where the power is in our 2 bikes.

Question: Do you get dissed by your own since you chose to ride the VRod? Man, seem like it is next to impossible to be nice the HD rider. Again today, I got blown off at the light by two of them again to day. I acknowledge everyone, I dont care what you ride. I just dont get the whole attitude thing. I get on people that ride with me if they pull that crap. Thats just dissrectful you know?

Sorry this is so late getting back to you Okie, I've been adding modes to close that 2 second gap thing. LOL.

Seriously, you guys seem pretty kewl. But a race would be fun just because of the difference in where the power is in our 2 bikes.

Question: Do you get dissed by your own since you chose to ride the VRod? Man, seem like it is next to impossible to be nice the HD rider. Again today, I got blown off at the light by two of them again to day. I acknowledge everyone, I dont care what you ride. I just dont get the whole attitude thing. I get on people that ride with me if they pull that crap. Thats just dissrectful you know?

Yeah alot of Harley riders turn their nose up at us but we don't care. I'd rather ride with a warrior that can keep up anyways. They chose a bike for what it was. We chose a bike for what it is.

They chose a bike for what it was. We chose a bike for what it is.


:plause: :plause: :plause: :thumb:

Yeah alot of Harley riders turn their nose up at us but we don't care. I'd rather ride with a warrior that can keep up anyways. They chose a bike for what it was. We chose a bike for what it is.


Yea I get the same BS about why a V-Rod from Old School Harley riders. My answer to them is simple.. I bought the bike for me, I liked it for the engineering, the modern technology, the HP, the way the bike handles, etc. I am not out to be like everyone else. If you don't like it tough shit!!

My sentiments exactly.......

It's looking kind of scary for the V-rod guys at Norwalk with the warriors qualifying one and two with Underwood quilifying with record breaking times and speeds and Jamie quilifying with even higher speeds than Underwood. Looks like it's gonna be a good match up today.

1 MARK UNDERWOOD COSHOCTON OH 9.284 142.73
2 RICK MCWATERS BUCYRUS OH 9.446 140.55
3 JAMIE MCNAUGHTON RACINE WI 9.459 144.57
4 LARRY EDMONDSON BATTLE GROUND IN 9.545 120.34
5 CHRIS RAGAN UNIONTOWN OH 11.587 113.58

It's looking kind of scary for the V-rod guys at Norwalk with the warriors qualifying one and two with Underwood quilifying with record breaking times and speeds and Jamie quilifying with even higher speeds than Underwood. Looks like it's gonna be a good match up today.

1 MARK UNDERWOOD COSHOCTON OH 9.284 142.73
2 RICK MCWATERS BUCYRUS OH 9.446 140.55
3 JAMIE MCNAUGHTON RACINE WI 9.459 144.57
4 LARRY EDMONDSON BATTLE GROUND IN 9.545 120.34
5 CHRIS RAGAN UNIONTOWN OH 11.587 113.58
It's His Clutch!Once he gets it sorted out Jamie will dominate! :thumb:

warriors lined up for the final and of course a warrior won. Just rattling your cages, this stuff is so close it's amazing.

ROUND 1
Rider RT ET MPH
W RICK MCWATERS .219 9.523 137.22
L CHRIS RAGAN .392 11.649 112.98
W MARK UNDERWOOD .140 14.068 86.02
L SINGLE
W LARRY EDMONDSON .255 9.843 113.39
L JAMIE MCNAUGHTON - - -
ROUND 2
W RICK MCWATERS .008 9.647 138.76
L SINGLE
W MARK UNDERWOOD .237 9.332 142.52
L LARRY EDMONDSON - - -
FINAL
W RICK MCWATERS .102 9.540 136.44
L MARK UNDERWOOD .097 9.738 141.27

Hats off.

warriors lined up for the final and of course a warrior won. Just rattling your cages, this stuff is so close it's amazing.

ROUND 1
Rider RT ET MPH
W RICK MCWATERS .219 9.523 137.22
L CHRIS RAGAN .392 11.649 112.98
W MARK UNDERWOOD .140 14.068 86.02
L SINGLE
W LARRY EDMONDSON .255 9.843 113.39
L JAMIE MCNAUGHTON - - -
ROUND 2
W RICK MCWATERS .008 9.647 138.76
L SINGLE
W MARK UNDERWOOD .237 9.332 142.52
L LARRY EDMONDSON - - -
FINAL
W RICK MCWATERS .102 9.540 136.44
L MARK UNDERWOOD .097 9.738 141.27


Who is ridding warriors from this list?

Check this http://www.amaprostar.com/hotrodcruiserpoints.asp

Dooohhhh it's still don't tell ya.

Well first and secound are warriors and Tripp and Jamie are V-rod.

Fast times huh? Competitive. A 0.175 gap separate third from first.

Aaaanyway!
Usually anoying old school harley riders are just the expression of some hidden antisocial problem, hemorrhoids maybe :laugh: . May have had a Michael Jackson experience early on or something :laugh: . Caring less could cause me some jail time. Laugh it up and inflame the weak ego, works for me, it'll work for anyone happy enough to not get bothered himself. They can usually handle pain close to their own bullshit but I find and usually do get much farther, unless you are five feet tall and present no attitude right back. Uasually they're like a lot of generator but very little light or electricity in the end. Like a dog barking at your bike but scrams right off when you twist the throtle. If on a warrior or a v-rod ask them for the training wheels, tell them that's one hell of a gate, did sears do the motor, what about all that fringe, what are the whips for, are you a masochist, and how come it sounds shity, is it broken? Ehhhh! Whatever your true feelings, they don't matter squat compared to the face you are waiting for, "c'mon, c'mon, pucker up cupcake!" kind of thing. I swear ever since I'm on the Harley V-Rod it is a special place where you can have fun with everyone. Only one rumble and still have tinnitus on that ear but worth it. JA! I am Pedro Lambeyagas and that my man is the way I feel we should go about it :rolleyes: . Laugh it up, be happy, be a mirror to those who wish badly upon you, hate'em back if you will, make them your friend is better, fockem if not, your the one with the cool bike, flatter stomach, money in the bank, beautiful wife and kids (well, usually, you get my drift). This with you warrior guys has been one cool happy experience. ENJOY!

Fast times huh? Competitive. A 0.175 gap separate third from first.

Aaaanyway!
Usually anoying old school harley riders are just the expression of some hidden antisocial problem, hemorrhoids maybe :laugh: . May have had a Michael Jackson experience early on or something :laugh: . Caring less could cause me some jail time. Laugh it up and inflame the weak ego, works for me, it'll work for anyone happy enough to not get bothered himself. They can usually handle pain close to their own bullshit but I find and usually do get much farther, unless you are five feet tall and present no attitude right back. Uasually they're like a lot of generator but very little light or electricity in the end. Like a dog barking at your bike but scrams right off when you twist the throtle. If on a warrior or a v-rod ask them for the training wheels, tell them that's one hell of a gate, did sears do the motor, what about all that fringe, what are the whips for, are you a masochist, and how come it sounds shity, is it broken? Ehhhh! Whatever your true feelings, they don't matter squat compared to the face you are waiting for, "c'mon, c'mon, pucker up cupcake!" kind of thing. I swear ever since I'm on the Harley V-Rod it is a special place where you can have fun with everyone. Only one rumble and still have tinnitus on that ear but worth it. JA! I am Pedro Lambeyagas and that my man is the way I feel we should go about it :rolleyes: . Laugh it up, be happy, be a mirror to those who wish badly upon you, hate'em back if you will, make them your friend is better, fockem if not, your the one with the cool bike, flatter stomach, money in the bank, beautiful wife and kids (well, usually, you get my drift). This with you warrior guys has been one cool happy experience. ENJOY!
Your Friggen Ear's still Ringing?She Really Smacked You Hard Huh! :sinister: :kaz:

Who is ridding warriors from this list?

Underwood and McWaters are on the warriors... both with Patrick Racing.

What happened to Jamie? Red light? I was really looking forward to seeing what he could do.

Heres a clip of Underwood.javascript:OpenBig('clip-10.htm');
Damn, didn't work.

Try this http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/mcy/media/video/drag_rsw/dragVideo.htm

Are there any clips of the V-Rod in action? I wonder what both(V-Rod and Warrior) would do without the weight restrictions?

Are there any clips of the V-Rod in action? I wonder what both(V-Rod and Warrior) would do without the weight restrictions?
Thats the Unlimited Class and Jamie WON Thats! :thumb:

Are there any clips of the V-Rod in action? I wonder what both(V-Rod and Warrior) would do without the weight restrictions?

The AHDRA guys are on this week.http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6233&highlight=ahdra+tube

I haven't looked around your forum thoroughly but I'll make a suggestion anyway. It would be cool to have a section for the geographic areas to get together and plan rides and such. I'll continue looking around and if I find it, you guys can bitch slap me later....LOL Seriously though, it would be cool to hook up with some local Vrods and fellow Warriors and go cruising around Houston on the best looking bikes around!! I think us houston area guys can round up about a dozen or so Warriors to meet up one afternoon evening. Can you imagine the looks on everyone else's faces when these two works of art go streaming by in a line?? Hehe. Just a thought. Have a good one and be careful out there, I've read about way too many cycle accidents already this summer.

Cornercarver try this part of the forum for member locations.

http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=30

Thanks, OKIE!!! I would have missed that one if it weren't for you!

I rode to work with a warrior. We never got the room to chomp down but I enjoyed riding with him.

I'd rather ride with a warrior that can keep up anyways. They chose a bike for what it was. We chose a bike for what it is.

Amen guys! I just posted in your Nor-Cal section for a group ride with some warriors. I know we can get a dozen or more Warriors together for a good ride. I'll post complete details soon!

My Warrior Web Page (http://www.amospro.com/rswarrior.htm)

Amen guys! I just posted in your Nor-Cal section for a group ride with some warriors. I know we can get a dozen or more Warriors together for a good ride. I'll post complete details soon!

My Warrior Web Page (http://www.amospro.com/rswarrior.htm)


Where are you at bro? I am in the the Sacramento area.

Where are you at bro? I am in the the Sacramento area.

Bill, I'm in Livermore. I have a warrior buddy that lives in Granite Bay. If we put a ride together maybe you can hook up with him and meet us all somewhere.

Az long az the pount gtz akros thatz al that materz. U dont se tu manee english magors that rid. Butt wee du hav a fu on this forem. I bet tha spend haf ther tim krinjing.

Just to let all know, I post an invite to the HondaHomecoming Here (http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8106) . If you are interested, follow the link there and add your reply! It is in Marysville, Oh and I realize that most of you aren't from around there. I am from lower Michigan, and I will be there. Just emagine a bunch of V-Rods and Warriors riding into town together to scare some VTX's. They'd part like the red sea! LOL. It should be a good time, so if you are near, lets go, it'll be a good time... :cheers:

Sorry for this post. I couldn't edit my last for some reason...

If you follow the link to the thread that I started in the Events forum, there is another link to the on going thread in the RSWarrior.com forum. We are expecting about 15-20 bikes going. Mark Underwood from Patric Racing will be there at our camp Saturday with trailer and bikes(should be very cool)...

Sounds fun. Wish I was a little closer.

I met up with one of your fellow v-rod owner here at the race track. ( kspz3 ) He helped me out with all the drag racing info that I needed since I am new to the sport. He's a pretty cool guy to hang out with at the track. There was no trash talk about warrior vs. v-rod, just a couple guys there racing. We didn't get a chance to line up against eachother, but eventually we will. I really need to learn the launching part. I ended up doing a couple wheelies that I didn't know I had in me...yikes! I'm sure over time kevin and I will race alot against eachother since I am now addicted to racing now and we'll have lots of stories for ya. For now....I'm learning from him.

From what I've seen, it's many times not the bike, but thr rider that counts in a friendly street rip or roll-on...
I've whipped some crotch rocket ass up to 600cc's let alone the pathetic metric cruiser that steps up to have fun...

I've caught some crotch rockets bigger than 600cc's, but must admit-the big bikes--- 'they be faster!'

I've been bested by a GSXR 1000, and some BUSA's , but I give them such a respectable run they can't help but say something nice, or smile, or give a thumbs-up...

It's better to have raced and lost than to never have raced at all.

Johnny, Its a good feelin'...
Was on a ride the other week and took down a VTR1000 both topend and off the line, this bloke was devestated after bagging Harleys all day.
There was also a new 1200 Buell and an Aprilla SV60 1000 on the ride both were amazed as I blew past them to catch the Honda. Pulled up along side him but thought he was playing with me till I seen him duck under the faring, I still had some throttle to go and just smiled as I very slowly pulled away. Not sure on the speed we were doing as I was having to much fun going past this bloke to look.
Pulled up at the local pub and Damm!! he was quiet. After leaving the Hotel and heading home I pulled up at a red light and felt a tugging on my elbow, was the VTR rider, he wanted to go from a standing start. I said what the hell, Light turned green and I didn't see this dude till backing off. Got to the next pub and he just kept goin.
To cut a long story short they have all been around since the ride and I think I have converted two of them (honda and aprilla riders) to the V-Rod. They are both talking about selling and having a new ride for summer!!!
Haven't come across a *worrier* yet but would be keen to take one down also... !!! Harleys Rule !!!! :vrod:

Harleys Rule!!

Harleys Rule!!

V-Rod... Power to the People. :thumb:

Swine, sounds like the guy on the VTR didn't know what he was doing.
Let me first start off by saying that I love the VROD, i think it is one of the most amazing bikes built, HOWEVER...
Simply put, the v-rod should have no problem dealing with most 600cc sport bikes in a straight line, but after spending some time on the cbr1000, i can only say one thing: THERE is no WAY IN HELL a stock v-rod could possibly hope to keep up with any modern Liter Super bike. Those bikes have more power and weigh alot less. THe VTR1000 has 132HP, 75 torque, and weighs 426 pounds. This translates to more power and less weight.
Best thing to do, is to know what you have and what you don't have. The v-rod is the most amazing, most beatiful bike ever built, but it's definately not the fastest.
That is why I WILL NEVER challenge anyone with more than 600cc's on a crotchrocket, allthough i do have this one friend with a VFR750, I kick his arse every time. :diablo:

launching a street bike (and winning with) is 90% rider ,, you out-rode the guy and thats a good feeling also

launching a street bike (and winning with) is 90% rider ,, you out-rode the guy and thats a good feeling also
That's true. :biker:

Swine, sounds like the guy on the VTR didn't know what he was doing.
Let me first start off by saying that I love the VROD, i think it is one of the most amazing bikes built, HOWEVER...
Simply put, the v-rod should have no problem dealing with most 600cc sport bikes in a straight line, but after spending some time on the cbr1000, i can only say one thing: THERE is no WAY IN HELL a stock v-rod could possibly hope to keep up with any modern Liter Super bike. Those bikes have more power and weigh alot less. THe VTR1000 has 132HP, 75 torque, and weighs 426 pounds. This translates to more power and less weight.
Best thing to do, is to know what you have and what you don't have. The v-rod is the most amazing, most beatiful bike ever built, but it's definately not the fastest.
That is why I WILL NEVER challenge anyone with more than 600cc's on a crotchrocket, allthough i do have this one friend with a VFR750, I kick his arse every time. :diablo:

Roman,
I know that these bikes (VTR) have more power than the V-Rod but this does not always translate to a win!!!
He has had the VTR geared down which allowed me to pull away as mentioned "slowly" at top end. Off the line when catching up with him at a later date he said that he had trouble keeping front wheel on the ground (gearing) and could not hear or feel his bike to change gears at the correct time. (V-Rod very loud under full acceleration.) He said he was catching me all the time but then front would come up and I would pull that gap again.
I did back off at a speed when I knew he was about to catch/pass me but in my books with a bloke riding a superior hp bike, this is know excuse and he has had to admit he has changed his mind completely on harleys...
In a different set of circumstances things would probably have been different but on this occasion V-Rods Ruled... :vrod:
Regards...

What ever happened to this thread anyway???? Let's bring it back out as the riding season begins......

Yah, what happenend to RedbullSSg? Haven't heard from him in awhile. He's about the only Warrior guy that was straight up about his bike and what it could and couldn't beat?

I'm gonna get a warrior, just so I can race myself on my V-Rod.....I think I have enough personalities now to do it!!!

I'm gonna get a warrior, just so I can race myself on my V-Rod.....I think I have enough personalities now to do it!!!
I Raced the Warrior Guy Last Week and Beat Him 11.520@118.02 to a 13.823@94.57 :spank: :diablo: Ask Him about it! :kaz:

I Raced the Warrior Guy Last Week and Beat Him 11.520@118.02 to a 13.823@94.57 :spank: :diablo: Ask Him about it! :kaz:

Did they make you wear weights to even out the competition? :biker:

Did they make you wear weights to even out the competition? :biker:
Why you Saw how Big He is? :hidesbeh: Lets Just say He was twice as Big as Me and Leave it at That! ;) We are Talk about a V-rod against a Warrior not the Size of The Riders anyways. :offtopic: :spank: ;) :kaz:

Why you Saw how Big He is? :hidesbeh: Lets Just say He was twice as Big as Me and Leave it at That! ;) We are Talk about a V-rod against a Warrior not the Size of The Riders anyways. :offtopic: :spank: ;) :kaz:

KAZ....I wasn't talking about RIDER SIZE....It was a comment earlier in this thread reguarding adding weight to the V-Rod to make up for the over-head cam configuration......It was posted by Max....HONEST!!! :surrender

Here's the link: http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=74515&postcount=75

had a quick look at the site, i cant find any dyno results there,are they keeping them a secret ?
anyway i hope a yamaha rider IS in front of me I hate warriors up my *rs*

Talk about waking up the dead...lmao
GO get em guys !

I just sent an invite to the Warrior forum to join in the racing fun at Pittsburgh - we are having a big bike weekend (June 18 and 19th) and I am trying to get some groups to attend - I would also love to see a strong showing of VRods.... $minimum $1,000 to win - maybe a good event for mid atlantic get together???? Kevin

I have two sport bike races behind me on the rod. The first a Yamaha R6 with a descent rider from a slow roll on. I was on a bone stock rental 2003. I was leading around a corner from a slow start when I heard him downshift and saw his headlight perk up in my mirror. All I did was roll it on from about 20 mph (still in first gear) and not only did I stop his attempt but I doubled the space between us. He was amazed! Next one similar situation on my new bone stock 2003 vs a Honda 954. Rolled it on and he was slightly pulling me but I nudged up against the rev limiter and lost some ground. Him being a friend of mind and not having beat me with any authority we decided to drag from a dead stop. This time I got an excellent launch and although a bit late so did he with his front tire about 10" off the gound I thought he was gonna get me. Then I saw his back tire smoke, his bike get out of shape and his foot go down. I knew I had him beat... Then just as I was approaching 100mph he went by me around 120 with authority :eek: I would still much rather have my rod than a 954 but I also know my place. Now when I mod my rod, my place will be a little closer but still well behind that little, nimble, powerful 954. I ride Almost exclusivley with sport bikes and I can keep up just fine but there is a limit to what you can do with a 1000lb bike/rider combo. I am amazed the rod does as well as it does!

I Raced the Warrior Guy Last Week and Beat Him 11.520@118.02 to a 13.823@94.57 :spank: :diablo: Ask Him about it! :kaz:
Sure, pick on the fat kid! Don't make me go get my big brother who runs 9.16 normally aspirated. :laugh: My first time out and I had to cross paths with the great Kaz! I had fun racing anyway and I'm sure I'll do better next time. I don't think I'll be running any 11.5's anytime soon though. ;)

If we switched bikes I think the results would be similar.

BTW Since this IS the trash talk thread, when was the last time a VRod beat a Warrior in a sanctioned drag race? :dance:
Oh, I remember, they got their wittle feewings hurt and took their toys and went home. :rofl:

Sure, pick on the fat kid! Don't make me go get my big brother who runs 9.16 normally aspirated. :laugh: My first time out and I had to cross paths with the great Kaz! I had fun racing anyway and I'm sure I'll do better next time. I don't think I'll be running any 11.5's anytime soon though. ;)

If we switched bikes I think the results would be similar.

BTW Since this IS the trash talk thread, when was the last time a VRod beat a Warrior in a sanctioned drag race? :dance:
Oh, I remember, they got their wittle feewings hurt and took their toys and went home. :rofl:
TAKE THE WEIGHT BACK OFF SO IT'S A FAIR RACE AND THEY'LL COME
BACK.OR I GUESS YOU CAN CLAIM TO BE THE FASTEST CRUISERS RACING
EACH OTHER.

Rick - I am assuming that they are aloowed equal displacement and equal weight? They could not possibly be asking the VRods to weigh more could they...... Or even playing with other things like minimum ground clearance - it would seem to me if they were weighing the VRODs heavier it would be a rigged event - almost like Yamaha was funding it or something - of course then it would be the hot rod yamaha class - not hot rod cruiser - tell me that they haven't put extra weight or other limitations on the VROD - I am assuming that they can be as lite as you can make it.with as much dispacement as possible right 0 - I am just a simple country boy and would not suspect anything being foul with rules..... nobody is stacking the deck are they - KSP

Tin Man,

If you're pokin' the Warrior site tell them I'm waiting for them at Beaver Springs on Friday!!!

Scott

Rick - I am assuming that they are aloowed equal displacement and equal weight? They could not possibly be asking the VRods to weigh more could they...... Or even playing with other things like minimum ground clearance - it would seem to me if they were weighing the VRODs heavier it would be a rigged event - almost like Yamaha was funding it or something - of course then it would be the hot rod yamaha class - not hot rod cruiser - tell me that they haven't put extra weight or other limitations on the VROD - I am assuming that they can be as lite as you can make it.with as much dispacement as possible right 0 - I am just a simple country boy and would not suspect anything being foul with rules..... nobody is stacking the deck are they - KSP
EAGLE IS BOYCOTTING PROSTAR UNTILL THEY REMOVE THE WEIGHT
RESTRICTION THEY IMPOSED ON THE VRODS LAST YEAR. UNTILL THEN IT
IS THE HOT ROD YAMAHAMMER CLASS. :sinister:

TAKE THE WEIGHT BACK OFF SO IT'S A FAIR RACE AND THEY'LL COME
BACK.OR I GUESS YOU CAN CLAIM TO BE THE FASTEST CRUISERS RACING
EACH OTHER.
This is not the first time a weight handicap has been levied based on different technologies. It happens in racing all the time to allow differing technologies to run more equally. Like it or not, the VRod engine is a different type of engine than the Warrior's.
Build a bike within the rules and go kick some butt, it's as simple as that. But don't whine about how it's not fair. Childish boycotting will do nothing to change the fact that the Warrior has slain the VRod in competition. Until somebody builds a bike to kick the Warrior's butts the Warrior will have bragging rights. Period.

The Warriors are out there at every race. All the VRodders have to do is show up and win without getting caught cheating.

Now, if you want to talk about racing each other, let's talk about the AHDRA...

This is not the first time a weight handicap has been levied based on different technologies. It happens in racing all the time to allow differing technologies to run more equally. Like it or not, the VRod engine is a different type of engine than the Warrior's.
Build a bike within the rules and go kick some butt, it's as simple as that. But don't whine about how it's not fair. Childish boycotting will do nothing to change the fact that the Warrior has slain the VRod in competition. Until somebody builds a bike to kick the Warrior's butts the Warrior will have bragging rights. Period.

The Warriors are out there at every race. All the VRodders have to do is show up and win without getting caught cheating.

Now, if you want to talk about racing each other, let's talk about the AHDRA...

NOT A PROBLEM RATHER RACE OTHER VRODS ANY HOW. JUST DONT CLAIM
TO BE THE BADDEST CRUISERS AROUND WHEN YOU NEED AN ADVANTAGE BASED ON DESIGN. AND CHANGE THE NAME OF THE SERIES TO WARRIOR CLASS,THATS ALL THAT RACES IN IT,THAT WILL BRING THE MASSES TO
THE TRACK.
:rofl2:

I can see how the meeting went right now...
"The v-rod is built too damn good, that little 69 inch motor is kicking our asses...lets make them add 500 pounds to it, that will show them"....LMAO

NOT A PROBLEM RATHER RACE OTHER VRODS ANY HOW. JUST DONT CLAIM
TO BE THE BADDEST CRUISERS AROUND WHEN YOU NEED AN ADVANTAGE BASED ON DESIGN. AND CHANGE THE NAME OF THE SERIES TO WARRIOR CLASS,THATS ALL THAT RACES IN IT,THAT WILL BRING THE MASSES TO
THE TRACK.
:rofl2:
So, you're saying there should be no limits on technology in the class? I don't really think you would like to see how bad the VRod would get beat by a cruiser with an R1 engine.

I think it was supposed to be a pushrod v-twin class. Since the VRod can't really hold it's own with the sportbikes and it's doesn't really fall into the classic cruiser category either, I think a nice compromise is to add a little weight to the VRod so they'll have somebody to run with. :cheers:

So, you're saying there should be no limits on technology in the class? I don't really think you would like to see how bad the VRod would get beat by a cruiser with an R1 engine.

I think it was supposed to be a pushrod v-twin class. Since the VRod can't really hold it's own with the sportbikes and it's doesn't really fall into the classic cruiser category either, I think a nice compromise is to add a little weight to the VRod so they'll have somebody to run with. :cheers:
IT DID'NT START AS A PUSHROD CLASS OR THEY WOULD'NT HAVE LET THE
ROD IN. THEY CHANGED THE RULES AND ADDED FOR OVERHEAD CAM ENGINES.
AND THE WARRIOR CANT HOLD ITS OWN WITH SPORT BIKES AND YOU CANT
REALLY CALL IT A CLASSIC CRUISER CAN YOU? MAYBE A COPY CRUISER OR
DID THEY TAKE THE PUSHROD DESIGN FROM ONE OF THERE OTHER MODELS?

Come on guys every one know the only way a air cooled warrior 102 inch (?) can run against a stock 69 inch v-rod is to add limits to the v-rod, and mod the crap out of the warrior....Apples and oranges, the v-rod is just too mean to run other cruisers in stock configuration. ;)

...AND THE WARRIOR CANT HOLD ITS OWN WITH SPORT BIKES AND YOU CANT REALLY CALL IT A CLASSIC CRUISER CAN YOU? MAYBE A COPY CRUISER...

:stupid:

If you go to Yamaha's site they say - "is it a cruiser or a sport bike, the answer is yes!" They don't even know where this bike falls. Still facts are facts. It can't take on a sport bike - and can't beat a V-Rod cruiser - even with a 33 ci advantage!

Apples and oranges
Exactly!

I don't really think you would like to see how bad the VRod would get beat by a cruiser with an R1 engine.

:
Actually i do not think people would mind at all, as long as its a factory built bike.. the rocket 3 is a fast bike, but again NOT a v-twin.

Compare V-twins and see what ya come up with.

I dont think yamaha would ever do that anyways, they already have a V-4 cruiser, V-max.
it will always be known as the worlds fastest V-4 cruiser, just as the V-rod will always be known as the worlds fastest V-twin cruiser :cheers:

Actually i do not think people would mind at all, as long as its a factory built bike.. the rocket 3 is a fast bike, but again NOT a v-twin.

Compare V-twins and see what ya come up with.No pushrod v-twin is going to match the potential of an overhead cam design. The overhead cam design is just far superior. That's why there's a handicap.

That said, there's a place for the VRod if they want to go race against other makes.

Modit2themax, do you know what redbull is up to ?
havnt seen him around in awhile..
and to quote kaz You and all Your Warrior Friends/Members are welcome anytime!Once we all get to know one another a little Ball Busting is alright in Fun,but we have a Pretty strict Policy on insults and fighting.Not sure what site You guy frequent but if you would like to leave a Link .I'm sure a few of us would be Curious about your stuff too!

oh yeah, and be sure to drop by the movie section and add stuff , theres alot of good movies there.
If you havnt already go to the new members section and give a intro about yourself. :cheers:
All racers and riders are welcomed here !
If you are over 18, we also have a mens lounge....and a bar.

:popcorn

No pushrod v-twin is going to match the potential of an overhead cam design. The overhead cam design is just far superior. That's why there's a handicap.

That said, there's a place for the VRod if they want to go race against other makes.
I AGREE WITH THE DESIGN BEING BETTER, AS FAR AS RACING THE WARRIOR
NOT ALOT TO PROVE OTHER THAN A SMALLER OVERHEAD CAM MOTOR WILL WAX A LARGER PUSHROD MOTOR EVERY TIME.

I AGREE WITH THE DESIGN BEING BETTER, AS FAR AS RACING THE WARRIOR
NOT ALOT TO PROVE OTHER THAN A SMALLER OVERHEAD CAM MOTOR WILL WAX A LARGER PUSHROD MOTOR EVERY TIME.
I agree with you to a extent, alot of real world racing also comes down to the rider and not just the machine.

Modit2themax, do you know what redbull is up to ?
havnt seen him around in awhile..
and to quote kaz

oh yeah, and be sure to drop by the movie section and add stuff , theres alot of good movies there.
If you havnt already go to the new members section and give a intro about yourself. :cheers:
He's around, I see him on RSWarrior.com all the time.

I've lurked on here a few times. It's a real nice site. I'd have plenty of fun with all the smileys. Never thought about posting until I ran into Kaz at the races and he said he'd been over to the Warrior site. Then he went and posted our times and it was on! I couldn't have you guys thinking I was the best the Warriors had to offer re. 1/4 mile times. :D

Modit2themax
You should go down and hang with Kaz more often at the track, he has quite a bit of experience ...but you better hurry while he has the streetrod out, his other 3 Drag Rods are almost finished..Highly modified.

Modit2themax
You should go down and hang with Kaz more often at the track, he has quite a bit of experience ...but you better hurry while he has the streetrod out, his other 3 Drag Rods are almost finished..Highly modified.
Oh, I'm definately going back. 3/26/05 was my first time dag racing a bike and I've caught the drag racing bug. The next race is 4/23/05 so I'll be there that night.
He was really helpful giving me tips on launching.

Oh, I'm definately going back. 3/26/05 was my first time dag racing a bike and I've caught the drag racing bug. The next race is 4/23/05 so I'll be there that night.
He was really helpful giving me tips on launching.
I'd Never Pic on a Fat Kid that 3 Times my Size! :eek: I'm Fast but Dam if he ever Caught me I'd be IN TROUBLE! :helpme: I should be back then with at Least 1 of my 3 race bikes so Please stop by my Pits next time your there!I'm not Very Familiar with the Warrior's but I'm sure I can at Least help your with the Riding Part.Seat time is the Key ,so make it a Point next time you go to the Track and I'll Help you out the Best I can! :cheers:

I'm glad I dug up this thread....This is much fun. :popcorn

;) Hey! I am here!!!

In the winter, I don't frequent even the RSWarrior.com site that often. I have snooped around here a few times, but haven't had much to add. I am not much of a post whore ;) , but I frequent a few forums....

I must say that the tempurature has seem to rise in here since I last posted :lamer: .

I am not suer why the sanctioned the added weight, but if you want to compair apples to oranges, then I beleive that certain rules should apply. However, I don't beleive that they should be so strict that they can't even compete. Hot Rod Cruiser class, humm, thats a toughy.... Maybe there should be another class altogether, like that is going to happen. If you were compairing apples to apple and oranges to oranges, it would be much easier wouldn't it. Pushrod~aircooled~ Vtwin to a Pushrod~aircooled~ Vtwin would be a much more exciting and fair race in my oppinion as well visversa. I think the big problem is HD's involvement in the race program myself. Like the lack of I should say...

As far as SE boycotting, that is another toughy. I think they have a little to much pride and needed to sit down and talk business. Really, it is about compitition, and when there isn't any and the same people win every time, well, what fun is that? AMA must realize that....

I just wish HD would step up and redesign their pushrod air cooled VTwin motors to be more competitive, and Yamaha would come up with a water cooled overhead came Vtwin to compete with the VRod. Yamaha didn't come out with the Warrior targeting the VRod, it was just timming IMHO! Now we have to completely different concepts in the same class competing against one another. Two very cool bikes I may add :D ....

redbud - It really is a descretionary system - no magic - you can absolutely choose the winner by just changing the weight..... give me the current ETs and I will put them dead even with just a little bit of weight one way or the other. Fair competition tend to bring folks out to play - IMHO - although unless they are up for limiting to 93 octane - factory setups with an 850lb minimum then I don't personally want to play.... those be my rules - we could recommend a sreet bike class for cruiser - make them take a 100 mile ride before the race - we could call it the hot Rod Cruiser class.... oh wasn't that the point in the first place. The other approach is no rules exxcept dot tires and wheelbase.... like the outlaws - but that is a differant program too!

If They Could Afford One ,they Would Have One . A Vrod That Is .

:kaz: Warrior nice bike but not for me.

Rad - Press the edit button on the post and restate if sobriety has changed your mind

Rad - Press the edit button on the post and restate if sobriety has changed your mind
THANKS BRO. :biker:

A little confused, but, RAD, income isn't the reason I didn't choose the V-Rod. Income, I make more than enough to buy a V-Rod or Custom. There were other factors that made my decision.

kspz3, I really think that they should either change the rules, or, come up with another class. If it is that uneven with the weight restriction, then I think it is unfair. They should be able to even it up to where it will give fair compitition. It isn't fun when the same people win all of the time.... I say lighten it up to where the V-Rod has a slight advantage, and see if the Warrior can step up. But if I remeber right, I think the Warrior is or was wieghed down. I would have to look into that....

Nice looking warrior Redbullssg .

Thanks!

A little confused, but, RAD, income isn't the reason I didn't choose the V-Rod. Income, I make more than enough to buy a V-Rod or Custom. There were other factors that made my decision.

kspz3, I really think that they should either change the rules, or, come up with another class. If it is that uneven with the weight restriction, then I think it is unfair. They should be able to even it up to where it will give fair compitition. It isn't fun when the same people win all of the time.... I say lighten it up to where the V-Rod has a slight advantage, and see if the Warrior can step up. But if I remeber right, I think the Warrior is or was wieghed down. I would have to look into that....

Red - Personally - I would like to see them make the class for us regular guys - even if it were indexed - it would be great to figure out how they could get the thousands of cruiser owners out there competitively instead of a competitive field of 2 or 4..... maybe cruiser bracket classes - 11 second bracket 12 second, etc. They are missing a big market and they have turned it into an exhibition class that is irrelevant to the regular guys as you need one hell of a wallet to play their game.
Kevin

Red - Personally - I would like to see them make the class for us regular guys - even if it were indexed - it would be great to figure out how they could get the thousands of cruiser owners out there competitively instead of a competitive field of 2 or 4..... maybe cruiser bracket classes - 11 second bracket 12 second, etc. They are missing a big market and they have turned it into an exhibition class that is irrelevant to the regular guys as you need one hell of a wallet to play their game.
Kevin
:stupid: I REALLY DON'T THINK PRO STAR WILL INDEX RACE THATS NOT
WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT. :2cents:

:stupid: I REALLY DON'T THINK PRO STAR WILL INDEX RACE THATS NOT
WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT. :2cents:

I think you are right...... but then again - a 2 bike class is not all that relevant is it - with a few warrior fans riding along to keep the class from being canceled - how does the saying go.....like kissing your sister :stooge: LSP

When I went to Indy last year, there were only about 5 bikes in that class. They definitely need to do somethingk! At this point, I don't care if Yamaha, Oh, excuse me, "STAR" looses a few races. It would make it more interesting, that is for sure... And I don't get it, where are the VTX's, the Kows, Suzuki's, and Victory's, etc. If I didn't have to put so much money into my bike to race it competitively with that class, I would! I thought that the rule for that class was that the bike had to be street-able, legal, and ridden on the street....