I am looking for any info on mapping successes and clutch set ups that have worked. We jsut started running ours and are struggling to get the 60' under 1.50.

:vrodforu:

I moved this here to get better exposure to the Destroyer crowd.

Thanks

Just don't expect them to be too forthcoming considering these are racers and every racer wants the edge. :D

I am a racer as well and would share what I know (unfortunately little) because it's really about how you ride the bike that makes a winner.

I am a racer as well and would share what I know (unfortunately little) because it's really about how you ride the bike that makes a winner.

Well yes and no. I appreciate your sentiment but you know as well as I do that team setups are guarded as if they were national secrets.

Good luck on your quest for information.

Well yes and no. I appreciate your sentiment but you know as well as I do that team setups are guarded as if they were national secrets.

Good luck on your quest for information.
YES THEY ARE!

Well it was worth a shot. What are good 60' times Destroyers are producing. Maybe I am expecting to much.

Well it was worth a shot. What are good 60' times Destroyers are producing. Maybe I am expecting to much.
From most of them i`ve talked to at the first 2 races the ones going fast are high 30`s or low 40`s. What is your 2 step rpm set at?:thumb:

OOH! AAH!!! It's the real FAST LARRY EDMONSON!!!

(sorry, silly here tonight)

OOH! AAH!!! It's the real FAST LARRY EDMONSON!!!

(sorry, silly here tonight)
Just trying to help, but yet not tell all. ;)

We've been going between 6500 and 7500 depending on track traction. Have not changed the clutch set up yet. Thanks for the reply

I ran a 1.35 short time and 9.46 ET in Gainsville @ 744 lbs. You'll figure it out.

I am looking for any info on mapping successes and clutch set ups that have worked. We jsut started running ours and are struggling to get the 60' under 1.50.

Put the rider on a diet!! :D

Put the rider on a diet!! :D
100% hot dogs

I am a racer as well and would share what I know (unfortunately little) because it's really about how you ride the bike that makes a winner.
That and Your Clutch setup!:hidesbeh: :vrodforu: What Tire Pressure you Running:sinister: ;) :kaz:

We are running between 8 and 9 pounds depending on air temperature. The tire has been hooking pretty well so the clutch is the next step. Saving my pennies for a V300 Racepack that would take the guessing out.

We are running between 8 and 9 pounds depending on air temperature. The tire has been hooking pretty well so the clutch is the next step. Saving my pennies for a V300 Racepack that would take the guessing out.
Ya I thought The 12PSI. Paul was running seemed a Little High!!!!!!!!!:spank: ;) :kaz:

Hi Enck,

what kind of springs (color) are you using?
I would guess that 6500 revs is way too low....

Martin

I still have the static springs in from the factory. Thinking about red but went with smaller changes first. Added 50% more weight and went to softer springs on the lock up. Rained all weekend so maybe next weekend I'll see where I am.

Try this:

go back to where the factory setting was

tire pressure 8 psi (the tire pressure alone will not get u into the 1,4s anyway...)

set launch rpm to at least 7800 rpm

when pre-staged turn full-throttle (you will notice the rev-limiter is working)

just popp the clutch

never ever shut down the throttle

fly into the 1,4s

you still can make proper clutch-tuning incl. springs + weights thereafter

if it does not work send me an air-ticket :-)))

with bad track conditions we ran repeatedly 1,4s

let us know about the progress youīre making


Martin

Try this:

go back to where the factory setting was

tire pressure 8 psi (the tire pressure alone will not get u into the 1,4s anyway...)

set launch rpm to at least 7800 rpm

when pre-staged turn full-throttle (you will notice the rev-limiter is working)

just popp the clutch

never ever shut down the throttle

fly into the 1,4s

you still can make proper clutch-tuning incl. springs + weights thereafter

if it does not work send me an air-ticket :-)))

with bad track conditions we ran repeatedly 1,4s

let us know about the progress youīre making


Martin
You better be in the 1.30's with a Slick and Wheelie Bar before you ask for a Plane Ticket :slap: The Rider has Just as Much to do with it as The Clutch setup:2cents: !

Brrr, calm down - I was just trying to post a helpful comment.
You did not post one yet.

Thereīs not many ways in popping the clutch. So itīs not the riders abilities but the tuning that makes the difference on a wheelie-bar bike with slick.

But anyway donīt worry - Iīll be in the 1,3s one day.
But I guess you havenīt been there with a 9.55@140.6 on a destroyer, have you?!

As far as the air-ticket is concerned: I was just trying to make a joke.

But whenver you get into the 1,2s on a destroyer Iīsurely buy you one to come over here and show me your magic!

Peace for a while,

Martin

Brrr, calm down - I was just trying to post a helpful comment.
You did not post one yet.

Thereīs not many ways in popping the clutch. So itīs not the riders abilities but the tuning that makes the difference on a wheelie-bar bike with slick.

But anyway donīt worry - Iīll be in the 1,3s one day.
But I guess you havenīt been there with a 9.55@140.6 on a destroyer, have you?!

As far as the air-ticket is concerned: I was just trying to make a joke.

But whenver you get into the 1,2s on a destroyer Iīsurely buy you one to come over here and show me your magic!

Peace for a while,

Martin
How about 1.09 60ft's on a Pro Stock Bike:slap: ! Ya I'm a Crappy Rider thats why I only Ran a 9.55@140.6 on Jeff's Destroyer:rolleyes: !Ask anyone who was there and They will tell ya:thumb:

P.S Any Day you want to Race Just let me know Stud:karate

Oh yeah, racing would be fun.

Whenever I will race one of Frank Hawley`s bikes I will tell you my times...
But donīt tell me to ride a 1,3s if you havenīt before, o.k.

So what about a reasonable comment on enckīs question, hm?

Martin

Has anyone experienced voltage surges that somehow affect the operation of the air shift system? We had problems with 3 or 4 different bikes this weekend at the practice session in Luckau, Germany. We are all basically beginners and would appreciate any help, tips, etc....:)

Oh yeah, racing would be fun.

Whenever I will race one of Frank Hawley`s bikes I will tell you my times...
But donīt tell me to ride a 1,3s if you havenīt before, o.k.

So what about a reasonable comment on enckīs question, hm?

Martin
Numbnuts I ran 1.36 60ft's on My NOS V-rod 4 Years ago with a Slick and Wheelie Bar:stilpoke: Where do you Think Harley Got the Idea for the DESTROYER:coff: !

Numbnuts I ran 1.36 60ft's on My NOS V-rod 4 Years ago with a Slick and Wheelie Bar:stilpoke: Where do you Think Harley Got the Idea for the DESTROYER:coff: !

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: You don't seriously think they got the Destroyer idea from you???? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Also, if you can't post anything substantive here to help out people setting up their Destroyers move on.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: You don't seriously think they got the Destroyer idea from you???? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Also, if you can't post anything substantive here to help out people setting up their Destroyers move on.
wtf hAVE YOU SAID TO HELP?DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE RED,GREEN OR YELLOW SPRINGS ARE?:popcorn I KNOW YOUR NOT A RACER BUT YOU SURE ACT LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT:rolleyes: I was gonna Give Him the Quickest Destroyer"Trip Nobles" in the Country's setup but Your Ignorant remarks will make me keep it too myself :alien: .

Damn Kaz, such hostility in ya bro..........:hidesbeh:

Kaz gets a one day ban to think about his actions. He was asked nicely to either contribute something constructive to this thread or move on and he decided to attack me. That is not acceptable behavior for anyone.

One day Mark? Your pretty lenient. How bout giving him ole ketsugo's slobbery, bloody muzzle? Ok, I'll cease and desist now.

One day Mark? Your pretty lenient. How bout giving him ole ketsugo's slobbery, bloody muzzle? Ok, I'll cease and desist now.

One day is a good place to start.... If it happens again, next time it'll be longer.

Went to Red with shim and added weight on the lock up. Much better 60s. Thanks for the advice as given.

what about the shift points? I guess martin is right in launching RPMs, but what about shifting? I think it should be somewhere about the 10500 ...
I still run the OEM clutch setup like he does and also run steady 1.4s in the 60s with no optimal grip ... so I think he's right in thinking about 1.3s with optimal track conditions. Also I think there's no way to get it down to1.2s, I think mid 1.3s are the best you can get out of a Destroyer.

Unless you change the Rev Limiter setting you are out luck at 10,000. 9,200 for the first shift and 9,500 for the rest of the trip is working for me as long as I don't fall asleep at the switch.

unless you change the rev limiter you are also out of luck at a bit more than 1000ft .... as the engine produces max power at 9,700 you have to set the shiftpoint far beyond this revs ... so its necessairy to change the rev limiter setting for real fast ET's ... if you have a dyno curve, look where the power is below 5% of max power, thats the point you actually should change gear, I guess 10,500 to 10,700 should be the aim ...

Hi Enck,

so what was your best 60 ft., what was your best E.T.?
Iīm curious.....


Martin

1.41 for the 60 ' 9.70 best Et at 137 MPH. I like the idea of moving the R L since i am contiually bumping it on the first shift unless I work to short shift. What sucks for my bike is its carrying 210 lbs.

1.41 for the 60 ' 9.70 best Et at 137 MPH. I like the idea of moving the R L since i am contiually bumping it on the first shift unless I work to short shift. What sucks for my bike is its carrying 210 lbs.

Thats a very respectable time for a 210 pound rider.

We've only had it to the track for one day best run so far was 1.375 60', 9.476 @ 137mph, 160lb rider. Jeff

Guess I better lose some weight. At 51 hard years and 5' 11 along with a penchant for beer breaking 200lbs and 9.40' s may be hard to come by.

Guess I better lose some weight. At 51 hard years and 5' 11 along with a penchant for beer breaking 200lbs and 9.40' s may be hard to come by.

That's why I have someone else ride my Destroyer. At 235lbs, with a penchant for beer and fear would probably have me running my best times in the high 10's!! Jeff

I'm 214 pounds with my monkey suit on and still ran a 9.46 @ 139 with a 1.35 60'. You can do it but its hard to be competitive. 180 pound rider fits nice.

I here alot of people complaining at the track about being under weight. I'd love it! Here comes a kickstand and an onboard compressor! I hate that diner bell.

Only joking, 3 of us started and then there were 2 as a clutch was burnt out, but hey it was fun! Keep going guys you inspire us all!

I'm 214 pounds with my monkey suit on and still ran a 9.46 @ 139 with a 1.35 60'. You can do it but its hard to be competitive. 180 pound rider fits nice.

I here alot of people complaining at the track about being under weight. I'd love it! Here comes a kickstand and an onboard compressor! I hate that diner bell.
Great Numbers for such a Big Rider,but your Right it's just less weight you have to add to the Bike!:)
Jeff's Bike"VRXSE" would have run a 9.3X with a Little More Gear " I was Hitting the Rev Limiter at 1100ft",also Tire Pressure adjustments!:wazzup: As that thing was Brutal for the 1st 60ft:eek:"I never made a Clean Pass:( "
!I did Not want to Break it or anyone else Bike so I was doing My Best to be Agressive yet Safe!:thumb: I'm Not sure what springs Paul had in for the 9.47 pass Arron made but it Worked!:plause: I was Very Surprized How Fast Jeff's Destroyer was compaired to the Rest I have seen at the Track so Paul and the Gang at Eagle really have a Handle on it's Tune up!:notworth: ;) :kaz:

"You don't seriously think they got the Destroyer idea from you????
Also, if you can't post anything substantive here to help out people setting up their Destroyers move on".

"wtf hAVE YOU SAID TO HELP?DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE RED,GREEN OR YELLOW SPRINGS ARE? I KNOW YOUR NOT A RACER BUT YOU SURE ACT LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT"

"Kaz gets a one day ban to think about his actions. He was asked nicely to either contribute something constructive to this thread or move on and he decided to attack me. That is not acceptable behavior for anyone".

Am I the only one in this group that has had a belly full of the 4th grade librarian? How about the administrator take off his silly little tin badge, and come out back for a little talk. Better yet Max, maybe it's time for some 're-assesment'.

Maybe we should run that poll again................

"You don't seriously think they got the Destroyer idea from you????
Also, if you can't post anything substantive here to help out people setting up their Destroyers move on".

"wtf hAVE YOU SAID TO HELP?DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE RED,GREEN OR YELLOW SPRINGS ARE? I KNOW YOUR NOT A RACER BUT YOU SURE ACT LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT"

"Kaz gets a one day ban to think about his actions. He was asked nicely to either contribute something constructive to this thread or move on and he decided to attack me. That is not acceptable behavior for anyone".

Am I the only one in this group that has had a belly full of the 4th grade librarian? How about the administrator take off his silly little tin badge, and come out back for a little talk. Better yet Max, maybe it's time for some 're-assesment'.


LOL Not sure how I got dragged into this. I know exactly how the destroyer idea came about. It seems Jamie took a group of HD people to Eagle and they spent some time looking at the eagle bikes and setups. We should have a film out called birth of the VRXSE starring Larry Edmondson and the eagle crew. :rofl:

Not sure who your calling out either, if it's me I suggest we just have coffee and talk v-rods.

:popcorn :cook