I just spoke with Larry from Eagle HD, wanted to say I was very impressed with the professionalism as well as the time he took to tell me about who they are and what the stroker motor is all about.

We're building a matching HarleyF-250 diesel and the V-Rod thought a little extra power may be needed. Eagle was my first call and again really good guys to deal with so far.

Can anyone that is running this give me a little heads up on how this motor runs / performs? Any recommendation towards other parts or set ups that works with this would be great.

Thanks MB

1340 or 1430?????? Eagle motors run good from what I've had underneath me in KC!!

I am going down to Eagle sat.,to finalize plans for my 1350.Already have 1250 kit paid for.I'm going to jump on the deal Larry posted in the 1250 thread,+ cams and other options.

Vinny......... STROKE IT !............ Just my 2 cents :)

Vinny......... STROKE IT !............ Just my 2 cents :)
I'm gonna stroke the 1250..I know,I know bigger is better.I would like to go bigger,but my pocket book won't let it happen.

I must agree with the folks that say stroke it. If you are going to spend the bucks on taking the motor in&out and rebuilding it save some extra money before you do it and stroke it. The performance of the strokers is amazing and then you can go rice rocket searching because with a stroker you will beat them to 130mph!!:sinister:

your not alone:broke:

Doing the 1340.

We didn't talk about cams............ anybody know what will be gained with a set?

Vinney, if you don't mind let me know what you find out after you visit Eagle. I want to make sure I get everything done while the motor is down there and apart. Thanks.

So there is a big difference? Who's riding this now? Your thoughts?

I must agree with the folks that say stroke it. If you are going to spend the bucks on taking the motor in&out and rebuilding it save some extra money before you do it and stroke it. The performance of the strokers is amazing and then you can go rice rocket searching because with a stroker you will beat them to 130mph!!:sinister:

Even this one? :sinister:

It would be rice I mean nice , but I doubt it...........

MB

Even this one? :sinister:

Doesn't look like it has a turbo, so yup from a dead stop!:sinister:

Doesn't look like it has a turbo, so yup from a dead stop!:sinister:

No turbo, but a Carpenter 1397 with 210 rwhp on pump gas...It ran 8.97 @ 156 with a 1.52 60'...:sinister:

No turbo, but a Carpenter 1397 with 210 rwhp on pump gas...It ran 8.97 @ 156 with a 1.52 60'...:sinister:

OUCH!:notworth: :hiding:

OUCH!:notworth: :hiding:
no Chance it would Touch That Busa!:stupid: Jaun or Jeff's Bikes would be Lucky to be within a 1/2 second of that in 1/4:eek: !

No turbo, but a Carpenter 1397 with 210 rwhp on pump gas...It ran 8.97 @ 156 with a 1.52 60'...:sinister:

Oops, Damn ricers you never know what you'll be up against. You WIN hands down!:sad:

No turbo, but a Carpenter 1397 with 210 rwhp on pump gas...It ran 8.97 @ 156 with a 1.52 60'...:sinister:

On a street tire no bars or slider clutch. B.S.
eagles little 1320's run 9.29@140 with a clutch.
I've seen 156 mph out of 10 sec. busas never a 1.52 60'
in street trim.

:popcorn:

no Chance it would Touch That Busa!:stupid: Jaun or Jeff's Bikes would be Lucky to be within a 1/2 second of that in 1/4:eek: !

All depends on which one of Jeff's bikes your talking about!!!

All depends on which one of Jeff's bikes your talking about!!!


Badrod II ? :)



5000 I'm an official post whore:)

Badrod II ? :)



5000 I'm an official post whore:)

Atta boy!!! :hitit:

:popcorn

Badrod II ? :)

Yes sir

All depends on which one of Jeff's bikes your talking about!!!
Whats RUNNING?:stilpoke: ;) the Destroyer's I have seen were Slow inless you had a PROFESSIONAL RIDER"under 150lbs" ON A PERFECTLY Prepped Track and allot of Clutch adjusting.The Best I saw a Legal weighted Destroyer run was 9.60's !Thats a Good Start but they are 10-15rwhp shy of the 170rwhp they talk about at least the 3 I have seen run on the Dyno!Now Throw a 75 shot or a Blower or Turbo on it and Your Gonna Blow some Minds but as they came from the Factory was a Little Over Rated in the RWHP Department:2cents: I think they are Beautiful,but Not nearly as Fast as everyone thought out of the Box:tmbsdow: !It's a Great Beginner's Drag Bike,but I want something just a Little Bit Faster!Now if BadRod II is getting the New Work's Cases and Auto Shift Tranny then God Only Knows How Far it can be taken,but I would say 500rwhp in the Next Year will been seen on an All Out 1 off Race Rod,but with Stock cases the Limit is 300rwhp!Jeff I'm still available for a Race Jockey Duty because if Your Wife ever Finds out what your Up to you know she Gonna be Pissed!!!:spank: :hidesbeh:

I remeber Talking to you about this Very Same subject and You Lied right to my Face!This just for fun I'm Not going to get into Racing or Sponser a Team as You HAVE Better things to do with your Time&Money!"QUOTE":deal: :sinister: :popcorn

This just for fun I'm Not going to get into Racing or Sponser a Team as You HAVE Better things to do with your Time&Money!"QUOTE":deal: :sinister: :popcorn

You probably thought the same thing in the very beginning... :) never is a long time, and folks change their minds.

Man, I go take a :hitfan: on my break and now look!! :laugh:

Whats RUNNING?:stilpoke: ;) the Destroyer's I have seen were Slow inless you had a PROFESSIONAL RIDER"under 150lbs" ON A PERFECTLY Prepped Track and allot of Clutch adjusting.The Best I saw a Legal weighted Destroyer run was 9.60's !Thats a Good Start but they are 10-15rwhp shy of the 170rwhp they talk about at least the 3 I have seen run on the Dyno!Now Throw a 75 shot or a Blower or Turbo on it and Your Gonna Blow some Minds but as they came from the Factory was a Little Over Rated in the RWHP Department:2cents: I think they are Beautiful,but Not nearly as Fast as everyone thought out of the Box:tmbsdow: !It's a Great Beginner's Drag Bike,but I want something just a Little Bit Faster!Now if BadRod II is getting the New Work's Cases and Auto Shift Tranny then God Only Knows How Far it can be taken,but I would say 500rwhp in the Next Year will been seen on an All Out 1 off Race Rod,but with Stock cases the Limit is 300rwhp!Jeff I'm still available for a Race Jockey Duty because if Your Wife ever Finds out what your Up to you know she Gonna be Pissed!!!:spank: :hidesbeh:

I remeber Talking to you about this Very Same subject and You Lied right to my Face!This just for fun I'm Not going to get into Racing or Sponser a Team as You HAVE Better things to do with your Time&Money!"QUOTE":deal: :sinister: :popcorn

Kaz, yes I agree Destroyers are cool & fun but slow compared to fast rice. BadRod II will smoke my Destroyer or any other Destroyer for that matter. I bought the Destroyer on impulse; it was not a plan to have a "race team". My two riders are Ryan "skinhead" Edmondson from Eagle who works with Larry on my bikes and Aaron Cunningham my local rider who you met at Moroso. These guys are excellent riders who are my buddies and have done so many nice things for me I bought them fancy Vanson racing suits as gifts. So officially we are hardly a racing team but looking from the outside in we're lookin’ pretty damn cool. I have never lied to you Kaz, I have no reason to lie to you. I also have no obligation to ask you if it's OK to spend my money anyway I want to. I am also entitled to change my mind without asking your permission. But with that said if you lived in West Palm Beach or even Lafayette Indiana I would be honored to buy you a cool Vanson suit with Audio Advisors on it. Jeff

You probably thought the same thing in the very beginning... :) never is a long time, and folks change their minds.
Brentley,
Actually the Racing was what got me interested in the Long Term"Going where Nobody has Dared to go before"200+mph at The Bonneville Salt Flats" Next is 7's in the 1/4 on a Street Tired V-ROD!When and Where you will just have to stay tunned,but Let my Little Deal come through and The Sky is The Limit:deal: :sinister: !I wish every Racer and Soon to Be Racer the Best of Luck in what ever they decide.Now there is 1or2 Now wannabees that have talked way too Much Crap ,but it's People Like That who really Motivate me:twisted: !I can talk the Talk and Walk the Walk so Pull up a seat and take some Lesson's Boy's because School is about to Begin!!!!!:kaz:

Kaz, yes I agree Destroyers are cool & fun but slow compared to fast rice. BadRod II will smoke my Destroyer or any other Destroyer for that matter. I bought the Destroyer on impulse; it was not a plan to have a "race team". My two riders are Ryan "skinhead" Edmondson from Eagle who works with Larry on my bikes and Aaron Cunningham my local rider who you met at Moroso. These guys are excellent riders who are my buddies and have done so many nice things for me I bought them fancy Vanson racing suits as gifts. So officially we are hardly a racing team but looking from the outside in we're lookin’ pretty damn cool. I have never lied to you Kaz, I have no reason to lie to you. I also have no obligation to ask you if it's OK to spend my money anyway I want to. I am also entitled to change my mind without asking your permission. But with that said if you lived in West Palm Beach or even Lafayette Indiana I would be honored to buy you a cool Vanson suit with Audio Advisors on it. Jeff

As I said Before I wish You Nothing But the Best of Luck in all Your affairs!:angelwin: You just seemed so Dead set against it when I asked you,but now all this?:yak:

P.S
I do have a Pro Stock Rig and can Travel so don't let me Living in Las Vegas stop anyone from Considering me as a RACER for them!:D Traveling is The Name of The Game,and I intend to be doing allot of it this Year!:kaz: Stay tuned to as The V-rod Turns:cook

Guys, I actually just sold the Busa and I'm installing a 1350 with some of the money...Even as fast as it is, I perfer the V-rod hands down...;)

I guess this means that nobody has any thoughts on what cams would work best for the BB..............

I guess this means that nobody has any thoughts on what cams would work best for the BB..............


I'm sorry I certainly can't help you pick out the right cam for your V Rod but with Larry & Paul working on your bike why even bother asking any of us. I spoke to Paul and you are actually getting a 1347.77 build or what Eagle will be calling a 1350. This build is somewhat unique and No one knows better than the guys you already have working for you what cams would be best for you. Jeff

. busas never a 1.52 60'
in street trim.

My Busa is 6" over...look at the swingarm...also, it's lowered 3" in the back and 1" in the front and then the front is strapped down...I know some guys who have done 1.49s on shorter Busas...Pat Dietrich you home boy from Indiana does it all the time with a 3" over Busa...Check out SuzukiHayabusa.org...:thumb:

I guess this means that nobody has any thoughts on what cams would work best for the BB..............

I'm going with the Web 462/435 cams...according to Paul, they are about the biggest cams that will work with the SE piston pockets without needing additional machining...also, I'm not running on the track so low end is more important to me as opposed to the high lift top end cams...

Bad Rod Thanks , I'm new to the performance VROD scene, I only called Eagle after seeing all the positive postes here. I also know how busy most people are at work so asking here was an alternative to calling Paul or Larry on this.
Ger Rod I agree low end with good mid range power is what I'm looking for.

Thanks MB

I'm going with the Web 462/435 cams...according to Paul, they are about the biggest cams that will work with the SE piston pockets without needing additional machining...also, I'm not running on the track so low end is more important to me as opposed to the high lift top end cams...
I wanna go bigger,(well cost pending on the machening)like the .492 cams.I need to make up for that 240 out back.I feel that with the .462 cams it should be around 140hp for a 180/200 tire.I don't plan on being at the track with it,but I might make a few passes down it.

I wanna go bigger,(well cost pending on the machening)like the .492 cams.I need to make up for that 240 out back.I feel that with the .462 cams it should be around 140hp for a 180/200 tire.I don't plan on being at the track with it,but I might make a few passes down it.

I wonder how much more you'll get out of the 492/452 without additional porting. I don't think the SE heads flow as much as the Eagle or Zipper heads. Do you need OS valves to maximize? You've probably checked with Paul but if not I'd do so...

I like Vinny's post- "I don't plan on being at the track with it, but, while I just happen to be there while not planning on it, I might make a few passes down it." hehe.

If you don't mind saying, what's the 1350 deal going to cost you, out the door? I know I don't have the $$$ for a 1550 setup, but I'd like to go 1250/1350 for the torque.

I like Vinny's post- "I don't plan on being at the track with it, but, while I just happen to be there while not planning on it, I might make a few passes down it." hehe.
:thumb: Ya like that??;)

If you don't mind saying, what's the 1350 deal going to cost you, out the door? I know I don't have the $$$ for a 1550 setup, but I'd like to go 1250/1350 for the torque.
I'm not positive in the price.But another memeber I have been PMing says he's gonna have $5500 in his 1350...he's doing a little more work to it than me...

I wonder how much more you'll get out of the 492/452 without additional porting. I don't think the SE heads flow as much as the Eagle or Zipper heads. Do you need OS valves to maximize? You've probably checked with Paul but if not I'd do so...
Gonna ask them tommorrow.

sburke91 I'm in for $3500 likely will add in the cams and I undersand that Power Commander will not work as well as a new Race Tuner, so I have to add this to the cost.

MB

I wanna go bigger,(well cost pending on the machening)like the .492 cams.I need to make up for that 240 out back.I feel that with the .462 cams it should be around 140hp for a 180/200 tire.I don't plan on being at the track with it,but I might make a few passes down it.

I just ordered a 260, did you notice a diff in power with the 240?

MB

Yes there was a difference in power.Not much,but noticable.

sburke91 I'm in for $3500 likely will add in the cams and I undersand that Power Commander will not work as well as a new Race Tuner, so I have to add this to the cost.

MB

I'm bitting the bullet and replacing my Power Commander with a RT as well...From what I hear, it's a must for big bore tuning...You might consider going to 58 mm TBs as well...They make good improvements with bigger motors...:thumb:

I'm bitting the bullet and replacing my Power Commander with a RT as well...From what I hear, it's a must for big bore tuning...You might consider going to 58 mm TBs as well...They make good improvements with bigger motors...:thumb:

Thanks, I need to get on the phone with Larry on Monday. Sounds like there may be a few other goodies needed to wrap this up.

MB

I wonder how much more you'll get out of the 492/452 without additional porting. I don't think the SE heads flow as much as the Eagle or Zipper heads. Do you need OS valves to maximize? You've probably checked with Paul but if not I'd do so...
Going with the 480/450 megacycle cams.Larry said the heads flow well enough for those cams.

Going with the 480/450 megacycle cams.Larry said the heads flow well enough for those cams.

If anybody knows, he does!!!

When are you getting started?

If anybody knows, he does!!!

When are you getting started?
It's going to Eagle march 10th.:hyper: :dance:

My motor landed at Eagle today........... 6 feet of snow outside my office window and for some reason I just can't wait to get my mill back and fired up??

MB