How streetable is the 1550 kit? Is it fairly reliable and could you cut out and make a 500 mile run without worries??

... a 500 mile run without worries??

I don't know, But I'd say gas planning would be very important...

i watched badrod make a 264 hp dyno run the make 100 plus mile ride. there are a very guys that have them and ride them all over and all the time. i'am sure they will chime in.

How streetable is the 1550 kit? Is it fairly reliable and could you cut out and make a 500 mile run without worries??

The original BB that eagle was putting out was the 1430, last summer Ricky G rode the demo bike of Eagle HD's around lake Okeechobee which had to be a 200 plus mile ride when all was said and done. His fuel economy was the same as mine and this was an endurance ride for any bike considering how we rode them. The 1430 never whimpered and at the time Paul told me it had about 10k miles of demo use on that engine. I'm sure the 1550 has the same dependability.

How streetable is the 1550 kit? Is it fairly reliable and could you cut out and make a 500 mile run without worries??

I abused (and I mean abused) my V Rod for over a year before we finally broke it at the track last month. I rode it on the street every chance I got with no problems or worries at all. Well except like it was mentioned earlier I only get about 80 miles to a tank on the BadRod.

100's of dyno runs, over 20 visits to the track and lots of great rides on the street have me saying that the 1550 done correctly is very reliable. Streetable up to a 500 mile ride I couldn't say my longest ride was about 250 miles but it was my ass that gave up not my V Rod. Jeff

Somebody stated on another thread about the problem of starting the 1550engine up when it was hot.?????????????

Somebody stated on another thread about the problem of starting the 1550engine up when it was hot.?????????????

I can speak for me on the BadRod, Juan (wpbvrod) and Bob (QuikRod) because I have ridden and raced with these guys. All of us have Eagle 1550 Big Bores and none of us have ever had any problems starting our V Rods. I let a bunch of guys at last years Rally take my bike out for a spin and none of them ever had a problem with starting it either. I chose Eagle HD to build my Big Bore because I am not mechanically inclined and a daily driven, dependable, streetable V Rod was an absolute requirement. I am very happy because I got what I paid for.

Jeff

Thanks BadRod for the clarification. I wish I could do the Big Bore but I don`t think Wifey would be too happy with me spending that kind of dough...

Thanks BadRod for the clarification. I wish I could do the Big Bore but I don`t think Wifey would be too happy with me spending that kind of dough...

You're welcome, I am very lucky to have a wife who lets me get away with all the crazy stuff I have done (and just about to do). Jeff

I think you talking about the Hi Compression race engines with compression Release Buttons:wazzup: ! I ate a couple Starters on 1 Big Bore Race Motor I played with but it was like 17.5/1 compression:eek: ! On those if you try and start them with out useing the release Buttons it will eat up the Starter pretty quickly:hidesbeh: I don't think Jeff a Jaun's Bikes are Really hi compression that why they can run Pump gas.:2cents:

I think you talking about the Hi Compression race engines with compression Release Buttons:wazzup: ! I ate a couple Starters on 1 Big Bore Race Motor I played with but it was like 17.5/1 compression:eek: ! On those if you try and start them with out useing the release Buttons it will eat up the Starter pretty quickly:hidesbeh: I don't think Jeff a Jaun's Bikes are Really hi compression that why they can run Pump gas.:2cents:

That's right Kaz we're at 12 to 1. Jeff

That's right Kaz we're at 12 to 1. Jeff
Nice!:mrgr: Thats a Little High to run the cheap stuff though"87octain" so you must run at least 93?;):kaz:

Nice!:mrgr: Thats a Little High to run the cheap stuff though"87octain" so you must run at least 93?;):kaz:

Yes sir that is correct 93 octane pump gas and when we are running race fuel we use 93 octane VP U4. Jeff

5 minutes after I picked up my BB (in the very first light) I was racing with a airhead on his Road King SE.
After that, I ride following Larrys advice: Ride it like ya' stole it :diablo:

reading some of these threads is slowly changing my mind about buying a v-rod to cruise...this 1550 sounds pretty damn good, one of you care to post a link where i could read more about what this Eagle kit consists of?

also, Jeff...you say that your engine was sent to Eagle for the buildup? What is the turn around time for that?

excuse my ignorance, but what if anything is done to the trans to hold up the extra power? clutch?

I think you talking about the Hi Compression race engines with compression Release Buttons ! I ate a couple Starters on 1 Big Bore Race Motor I played with but it was like 17.5/1 compression ! On those if you try and start them with out useing the release Buttons it will eat up the Starter pretty quickly

compression release buttons? you mean spark cutoff? crank it then let off on the button to allow spark and BAM it fires over...you don't need more than 12:1 to burn through a few starter clutches, i'm on my second on the Busa, cracking the throttle a bit when turning it over will also help a little, but the spark cutoff seems to be the best solution for those with this problem.

also, Jeff...you say that your engine was sent to Eagle for the buildup? What is the turn around time for that?

If you want to go BB theres only one place IMHO: Eagle HD - Lafayette IN, and if you wallet allows it only one size: 1550.
Talk to Paul there. Turn around is about 3/4 weeks if you dont go nuts like we did and add 2000 more things to it. Paul comes to FL pretty often, if its not for me, jeff, bob or some crazy project...So he can pick up your bike and deliver it with no problem...
He's an awesome guy to deal with.

reading some of these threads is slowly changing my mind about buying a v-rod to cruise...this 1550 sounds pretty damn good, one of you care to post a link where i could read more about what this Eagle kit consists of?

also, Jeff...you say that your engine was sent to Eagle for the buildup? What is the turn around time for that?

excuse my ignorance, but what if anything is done to the trans to hold up the extra power? clutch?


I'm sorry I really don't remember the turn around time. I've done so many things over such a long period of time I loose track. I will get Paul to answer your questions but if I remember correctly I have had more than one kind of clutch, changing as we kept adding horse power but the tranny has always been stock. Paul?

Hello Robino, Depending on how many V-rods we have in shop at that time and what our race schedule is doing engine work is 3-5 weeks. Give me a call 765-448-9132 (I only type 3 WPM)
Paul

reading some of these threads is slowly changing my mind about buying a v-rod to cruise...this 1550 sounds pretty damn good, one of you care to post a link where i could read more about what this Eagle kit consists of?

also, Jeff...you say that your engine was sent to Eagle for the buildup? What is the turn around time for that?

excuse my ignorance, but what if anything is done to the trans to hold up the extra power? clutch?



compression release buttons? you mean spark cutoff? crank it then let off on the button to allow spark and BAM it fires over...you don't need more than 12:1 to burn through a few starter clutches, i'm on my second on the Busa, cracking the throttle a bit when turning it over will also help a little, but the spark cutoff seems to be the best solution for those with this problem.


No the V-twins are a Little differnt I think.The Race Motors have Buttons on each cylinder you push in when you go to start it so it turns over easier.:thumb:

compression release are built into the stock cams

No the V-twins are a Little differnt I think.The Race Motors have Buttons on each cylinder you push in when you go to start it so it turns over easier.:thumb:

Yep that's right Kaz, on the Jim's 120 I had put on my Deluxe I have a manual compression release switch on top of each cylinder head that if the engine is hot must be pushed before you can start it. If the engine is cold you can get away without pushing the releases but it is easier to start when you do. My buddy Eric has electric controlled releases on his bike so he doesn't have to push the hot little buttons (that can burn the hell out of your fingers if you’re not careful) directly. Jeff

Jeff the push butttons are just for the air cooled?

Jeff the push butttons are just for the air cooled?

Yes

;) :kaz: Jeff the push butttons are just for the air cooled?
:slap: No Shorty:deal: !This is Big Bore HIGH COMP Race Motor not a Stock motor that I am talking about!:soapbox: They ALL Run them if You have ever been to an AHDRA Event you would know what I'm talking about!!!


http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11758 look at the Blue botton on the side of Tripps cylinders:sinister: !

;) :kaz:
:slap: No Shorty:deal: !This is Big Bore HIGH COMP Race Motor not a Stock motor that I am talking about!:soapbox: They ALL Run them if You have ever been to an AHDRA Event you would know what I'm talking about!!!


http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11758 look at the Blue botton on the side of Tripps cylinders:sinister: !
My dealers v-rod race bike has compression releases on the heads also..

My dealers v-rod race bike has compression releases on the heads also..
Ya Little G's been Reading the internet to much ,and has gotten to see the Real Racer's:stilpoke: ;) :kaz: Here's another Pic of my Breifly owned Kosman V-rod Race Bike that African Paul now has and you will be able to see what I'm talking about!:deal:

Kaz, Do you still have the black one with the gold wheels in that picture???

Ya Little G's been Reading the internet to much ,and has gotten to see the Real Racer's:stilpoke: ;) :kaz: Here's another Pic of my Breifly owned Kosman V-rod Race Bike that African Paul now has and you will be able to see what I'm talking about!:deal:
Who do ya think told him about the forum:mrgr:
Not only that.Big Lou is good buddies with Mr. Tilley.snowmobiling buddies...

Kaz, Do you still have the black one with the gold wheels in that picture???
Not that was another Bike Kosman Built for Vic Guidera The owner of-Folsom & Rockland HD!I think Paul Garibaldi's son Joe own's it now:confused: ?Paul works for Vic and races His V-rods also!:thumb:

Compression Release 101
Ok everyone I will tell you what I know. Yes, for your info I have done a couple of this and have seen this done a couple times by others :rofl2: ok maybe more than a couple.
The V-rods that hold the # 1 and #2 plates in AHDRA have releases on the cams just like most big bore street bikes that leave our shop. No external buttons. Yes these bikes have HIGH compression and start.
The weak link on V-rods is always the battery ( same cranking amps as a Buell Blast) the location does not allow any larger to be installed.
Some V-rods at the track may have releases because they choose to use cams that do not have the automatic release on them( Don Tilley's bike that Tripp rode had external releases )
The Destroyer does not have external releases and has 14-1 compression ratio.
Short stroke motors "V-rod" start easier with high compression than long stroke "Twin Cam"
Class lesson is that there is no real standard to start your motor.You can do it many different ways Big Battery,Big Starter, Big Cables,Big hole to release compression,Big Voltage 24 instead of 12,or just a Big rope to pull the damn thing. Just as long as it has the word Big is all that matters.

I have been out of the country and just got back but I have to second and third was has been said about the 1550 motor. It starts,drives idles and almost everything else like a stock bike. We do run carbon clutch disks and heavier clutch springs which makes the clutch lever harder to pull but I have long term tendonitis and I can handle it. The only other difference is it is SO MUCH FASTER!!!!!!

Compression Release 101
Ok everyone I will tell you what I know. Yes, for your info I have done a couple of this and have seen this done a couple times by others :rofl2: ok maybe more than a couple.
The V-rods that hold the # 1 and #2 plates in AHDRA have releases on the cams just like most big bore street bikes that leave our shop. No external buttons. Yes these bikes have HIGH compression and start.
The weak link on V-rods is always the battery ( same cranking amps as a Buell Blast) the location does not allow any larger to be installed.
Some V-rods at the track may have releases because they choose to use cams that do not have the automatic release on them( Don Tilley's bike that Tripp rode had external releases )
The Destroyer does not have external releases and has 14-1 compression ratio.
Short stroke motors "V-rod" start easier with high compression than long stroke "Twin Cam"
Class lesson is that there is no real standard to start your motor.You can do it many different ways Big Battery,Big Starter, Big Cables,Big hole to release compression,Big Voltage 24 instead of 12,or just a Big rope to pull the damn thing. Just as long as it has the word Big is all that matters.


Well there You go Straight from the Horse's Mouth;) "well sorta" Paul D. HAS seen them first Hand and I have used them 1st hand.The Motor I used them on was a Very High 17.5/1 Motor Built by? and it had them on them.Also my freind Tripp Nobles and Terry Vaugn had them on their V-rods!:cook I was told Never to try and start it with out useing the Buttons or it will Kill the starter:spank: !
Paul@Eagle HD has a Special setup that doesn't Need them so Thats EXTRA STEALTHY:sinister: :notworth: ;) :kaz: !

p.s Thanks Obi wan Kanobi you are My only Hope!:kiss: :thumb:

Well there You go Straight from the Horse's Mouth;) "well sorta" Paul D. HAS seen them first Hand and I have used them 1st hand.The Motor I used them on was a Very High 17.5/1 Motor Built by? and it had them on them.Also my freind Tripp Nobles and Terry Vaugn had them on their V-rods!:cook I was told Never to try and start it with out useing the Buttons or it will Kill the starter:spank: !
Paul@Eagle HD has a Special setup that doesn't Need them so Thats EXTRA STEALTHY:sinister: :notworth: ;) :kaz: !

p.s Thanks Obi wan Kanobi you are My only Hope!:kiss: :thumb:


Kaz, when VrodG asked; “Jeff the push buttons are just for the air cooled?" and I answered YES. Yes was and is the correct answer because I was only speaking about the bikes I have been discussing in this thread; a thread that was clearly about “how streetable is a 1550 kit” & robino stating that he is “changing my mind about buying a v-rod to cruise”. Buying a V Rod to “cruise” has nothing to do with high compression race motors and neither does a streetable 1550 V Rod. In any event I certainly did not say that there was no such thing as a V Rod or any other kind of hi comp motorcycle that did not have external compression releases.

VrodG stated correctly that the street driven 1550 big bores that we were discussing in this thread did not need external compression releases as compression release is a function of the cams. So I’m not sure why you felt the need to go to such great lengths to prove that compression releases exist on hi comp race bikes because no one said that they didn’t. I also don’t understand why you are so proud of yourself for being right about the compression releases when no one said you were wrong.

We were having a conversation about 1550 Big Bore Streetable V Rods and you as you frequently do you blasted out a bunch of crap and dropped a bunch of names that had nothing to do with the discussion we were having. Jeff

Kaz, when VrodG asked; “Jeff the push buttons are just for the air cooled?" and I answered YES. Yes was and is the correct answer because I was only speaking about the bikes I have been discussing in this thread; a thread that was clearly about “how streetable is a 1550 kit” & robino stating that he is “changing my mind about buying a v-rod to cruise”. Buying a V Rod to “cruise” has nothing to do with high compression race motors and neither does a streetable 1550 V Rod. In any event I certainly did not say that there was no such thing as a V Rod or any other kind of hi comp motorcycle that did not have external compression releases.

VrodG stated correctly that the street driven 1550 big bores that we were discussing in this thread did not need external compression releases as compression release is a function of the cams. So I’m not sure why you felt the need to go to such great lengths to prove that compression releases exist on hi comp race bikes because no one said that they didn’t. I also don’t understand why you are so proud of yourself for being right about the compression releases when no one said you were wrong.

We were having a conversation about 1550 Big Bore Streetable V Rods and you as you frequently do you blasted out a bunch of crap and dropped a bunch of names that had nothing to do with the discussion we were having. Jeff

Jeff,
who are You Kidding?If you Just want to Cruise whats wrong with a stock V-rod? A 1550 is Nothing Close to stock and to get the Best Performance you want as High a compression"naturally aspirated" Motor as Possible!Your Bike is a Street Version with Low Compression Piston so you can run Pump Gas which is AWESOME,but I got the impression He wanted Maximum Performance!Your Cams are Pretty Mild or Really custom to still use the Stock Compression relief Valves in the Motor.How Larry and Jamie's Bike do it I have No clue,but I've ridden at least 5 Different Race V-rod except "Your's" all Had the Little Blue Buttons!You said "they Don't only Air Cooled Motor's do",and I SAID THE ONE'S I'VE Ridden HAD THEM!I also put a wink and a Smiley Face after words "Which means I'm Just Having Fun",but your getting your panties all in a Bundle over What?Read Back Over the Tread again Before you Jump Down My Throat!You No NOTHING about these Motor's "Your Words Too Me"only how to write a check!I know How to Blow them Up "or Hopefully how not too" so there Ya go!:deal: If you would Like to debate this More we can take it to the Bar as I have Not attacked You ,but you sure Have attacked Me!:bat

Jeff,
who are You Kidding?If you Just want to Cruise whats wrong with a stock V-rod? A 1550 is Nothing Close to stock and to get the Best Performance you want as High a compression"naturally aspirated" Motor as Possible!Your Bike is a Street Version with Low Compression Piston so you can run Pump Gas which is AWESOME,but I got the impression He wanted Maximum Performance!Your Cams are Pretty Mild or Really custom to still use the Stock Compression relief Valves in the Motor.How Larry and Jamie's Bike do it I have No clue,but I've ridden at least 5 Different Race V-rod except "Your's" all Had the Little Blue Buttons!You said "they Don't only Air Cooled Motor's do",and I SAID THE ONE'S I'VE Ridden HAD THEM!I also put a wink and a Smiley Face after words "Which means I'm Just Having Fun",but your getting your panties all in a Bundle over What?Read Back Over the Tread again Before you Jump Down My Throat!You No NOTHING about these Motor's "Your Words Too Me"only how to write a check!I know How to Blow them Up "or Hopefully how not too" so there Ya go!:deal: If you would Like to debate this More we can take it to the Bar as I have Not attacked You ,but you sure Have attacked Me!:bat

I may not know anything about bikes and motors but I sure know how to get you going don't I Kaz? Chill out big boy I was just having a little fun, it's been a while since I got you all worked up. Jeff

I may not know anything about bikes and motors but I sure know how to get you going don't I Kaz? Chill out big boy I was just having a little fun, it's been a while since I got you all worked up. Jeff


ya I'm STILL HUMAN:spank: !You Got Me!!!!;):kiss: :kaz: I'm Just JEALOUS of all your Studs with those BADA$$ Eagle Big Bore riding them around EVERYDAY!!!:notworth: Maybe Someday I'll be Lucky enough to have one of those but for Now I can only DREAM:sad:

Juan,
sell me your bike bro...it's all dinged up anyway

;) :kaz:
:slap: No Shorty:deal: !This is Big Bore HIGH COMP Race Motor not a Stock motor that I am talking about!:soapbox: They ALL Run them if You have ever been to an AHDRA Event you would know what I'm talking about!!!


http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11758 look at the Blue botton on the side of Tripps cylinders:sinister: !

Told ya :moon:

Juan,
sell me your bike bro...it's all dinged up anyway

:moon:

just bought an 05 black/silver...

i'm gonna do a ghetto version of juan's bike