Here's the "Dyno" Mike Wilson version so all can see!Notice the MPH and How Flat the Curve is"Power under the curve" for those who know! It show what would be the story in a Race with the same setup bikes against Turbo VS Bigbore+N2O :angeldev: !tell me what ya Think? ;) :kaz:

Kaz - I do not get your point......... benchracing dynocharts - you will need a bong and a strobe light for this to make any sense at all........

benchracing dynocharts - you will need a bong and a strobe light for this to make any sense at all........

:rofl:

Sweet! I have a new goal in life. Thanks.

OK Kaz, I do not get it. Please educate me on the point you are trying to make. I’m here to learn any and all information of our beloved V-Rods.

OK Kaz, I do not get it. Please educate me on the point you are trying to make. I’m here to learn any and all information of our beloved V-Rods.
:stupid: :confused:

OK Kaz, I do not get it. Please educate me on the point you are trying to make. I’m here to learn any and all information of our beloved V-Rods.
Power under the curve mean- How Long is the Motor at Peak power or averaged over a specific rpm!The Big Bore Make Peaky Power if you compair the charts.Kevin two Idenical bikes,but one is a Turbo and one is a Big Bore and N2O"BB alone wont do it" which bike will be FASTER?The Turbo Bike will :thumb: !They Make Peak Power and Torque Longer!Now My Bike is 1136cc so it's a stock rebuild with low comp J&E pistons,Dryer Top Rod's,and a set of Very Mild Cams!Nothing Very trick except the Turbo system is intercooled which doesn't work very well on the dyno"No Wind speed to cool it" so it's Faster in Real World not on the dyno!Now You take a Big Bore and Add a Turbo and You have a Monster kinda Like my New Motor Sam's Building!Just trying to give a Little Heads up$$$$$ for$$$$$$ Nothing BEATS a Turbo! :2cents:

Kaz - I do not get your point......... benchracing dynocharts - you will need a bong and a strobe light for this to make any sense at all........


Is that one step up from lawn mower racing ???? :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

Just trying to give a Little Heads up$$$$$ for$$$$$$ Nothing BEATS a Turbo! :2cents:
Hey Kaz,
You did really great on the salt and I am am proud of you for that, but why can't you just tell it like it really is in the world of today not next week or next month or what is going to happen or how it might be. Just admit that as of today Big bore V-rods have kicked Turbo's ass on the drag strip and on the dyno shoot-out that is the facts today.( just start saying it real slow and quiet a few times and get use to it and pretty soon you will be able to say it out loud in public) You are the King on the salt that is the fact today, I can say that to anyone" KAZ'S TURBO IS THE KING OF V-RODS ON THE SALT TODAY" but please admit that BIG BORES ARE THE KING AT DRAG STRIPS AND DYNO SHOOT OUTS TODAY.
As always you know I still Love you

Im making somegood HP with a TURBO not dynoed but I like the bang for the buck and the fact I did the install and tune at my house Im really happy!
VotROD :kiss: TURBO ;)

Hey Kaz,
You did really great on the salt and I am am proud of you for that, but why can't you just tell it like it really is in the world of today not next week or next month or what is going to happen or how it might be. Just admit that as of today Big bore V-rods have kicked Turbo's ass on the drag strip and on the dyno shoot-out that is the facts today.( just start saying it real slow and quiet a few times and get use to it and pretty soon you will be able to say it out loud in public) You are the King on the salt that is the fact today, I can say that to anyone" KAZ'S TURBO IS THE KING OF V-RODS ON THE SALT TODAY" but please admit that BIG BORES ARE THE KING AT DRAG STRIPS AND DYNO SHOOT OUTS TODAY.
As always you know I still Love you

Paul D. ..... Your Killing me ...... :rofl2: :plause: :rofl2: :plause: :thumb:

:popcorn :popcorn

Power under the curve mean- How Long is the Motor at Peak power or averaged over a specific rpm!The Big Bore Make Peaky Power if you compair the charts.Kevin two Idenical bikes,but one is a Turbo and one is a Big Bore and N2O"BB alone wont do it" which bike will be FASTER?The Turbo Bike will :thumb: !They Make Peak Power and Torque Longer!Now My Bike is 1136cc so it's a stock rebuild with low comp J&E pistons,Dryer Top Rod's,and a set of Very Mild Cams!Nothing Very trick except the Turbo system is intercooled which doesn't work very well on the dyno"No Wind speed to cool it" so it's Faster in Real World not on the dyno!Now You take a Big Bore and Add a Turbo and You have a Monster kinda Like my New Motor Sam's Building!Just trying to give a Little Heads up$$$$$ for$$$$$$ Nothing BEATS a Turbo! :2cents:


Kaz - WTF are you doing out there - if you continue to stare at the strobe light while under the influence it could permantly blind you. First, races especially with over powered, extreme machines are ABSOLUTELY won on the track - not on the dyno as you are pushing all of the limits which will dramatically influence results - traction, maintaining control, keeping it in one peice and running - missed shifts, broken transmissions, etc, etc, all happen when racing these things -the only way to claim victory is to win it at the track - or if you are doing dyno shootouts - it is on the dyno..... a very curious sport to me as it is. ALso - the only reason that the torque/hp curve is like it is on the nitrous bike is that they have a simple fixed jet that gives a constant torque gain across the power curve - therefore creating a diminishing HP curve - if they want it flat or climbing curve all they need to do is install a progressive controller and they can shape the curve any way they want - $500 and a few hours and they would alter it in to their hearts desire - which totally undermines your theory...... as Paul says - stick to the salt - you are a way better Land Speed Racer than a bench racer - sober up and reflect upon your extraordinary achivement at Bonneville...... YOU ARE THE MAN! Leave the bench racing, bong and all, to those less fortunate dreamers that have little chance of ever seeing your achivement - the KING OF SPEED and The World's Fastest........ could somebody pass the salt please..... Kevin

As Requested!!!!!

Hey Kaz,
You did really great on the salt and I am am proud of you for that, but why can't you just tell it like it really is in the world of today not next week or next month or what is going to happen or how it might be. Just admit that as of today Big bore V-rods have kicked Turbo's ass on the drag strip and on the dyno shoot-out that is the facts today.( just start saying it real slow and quiet a few times and get use to it and pretty soon you will be able to say it out loud in public) You are the King on the salt that is the fact today, I can say that to anyone" KAZ'S TURBO IS THE KING OF V-RODS ON THE SALT TODAY" but please admit that BIG BORES ARE THE KING AT DRAG STRIPS AND DYNO SHOOT OUTS TODAY.
As always you know I still Love you
Yes as of Today Your correct,but you think thats gonna be like that forever :spit: ?YOUR BIG BORE with N20 Won the dyno shootout and Drag Race Tittle"Who else was there?" there's no doubt about that! :notworth: I just wish you'd send me a couple of those Babies with Low Comp Piston's to see what they really can do! ;) :kaz: Dollar for dollar you can't beat a Turbo is all I'm saying! :heart:

So who has the most miles on a turbo v-rod here ?...i would like to see how they are holding up.

So who has the most miles on a turbo v-rod here ?...i would like to see how they are holding up.
Brandon has about 10k easy on his by now!I can answer who's been the Fastest or who Blown up the Most Turbo Motors but that's it! :hidesbeh:

Yes as of Today Your correct,but you think thats gonna be like that forever :spit: ?YOUR BIG BORE with N20 Won the dyno shootout and Drag Race Tittle]"Who else was there?" [/B] there's no doubt about that! :notworth: I just wish you'd send me a couple of those Babies with Low Comp Piston's to see what they really can do! ;) :kaz: Dollar for dollar you can't beat a Turbo is all I'm saying! :heart:
Why Kaz you where there and I thought from your previous posts you where all that counted. Why would I send you one of these babies to see what they can really do when we already have the equipment to see on our own. I have recently learned that if you have a big cubic inch motor and are boosting the inlet over 45 lbs. when you spray Nos ahead of the intercooler that it doesn't make much more power than just misting water into it.

As always you know I still Love you

Can we all sing along now?????

Shawn, I have about 4000mi. on mine and no problems. I even have the original clutch. I'm usually running 71/4# boost though. I had some issues with the FMU but I was able to fix it myself. Bill

As Requested!!!!!


:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: I loved the previous pictures also - you keep me laughing Ricky.... Kevin

What about All the othe Big Bores?Not one was close in RWHP just on the Motor.The Turbo's from the other's and my builder made 155+rwhp to 170+rwhp.No Big Bore came close in RWHP with out Help"n2o" and believe me those Motors with the Turbo's are Stock just a Bolt on!Alls I'm saing is theres One Big Bore that made Power,but there are a whole Lot more Turbo's making Big Power but don't take that from me,just ask! ;) :kaz: Paul I love you too but I think Your Scared of me for some strange reason?I've asked you more then once for Your Greatness,but you always Blow me off :confused: .Nothing Personal,but it make me Wonder why? :sinister:

Yes as of Today Your correct,but you think thats gonna be like that forever :spit: ?YOUR BIG BORE with N20 Won the dyno shootout and Drag Race Tittle"Who else was there?" there's no doubt about that! :notworth: I just wish you'd send me a couple of those Babies with Low Comp Piston's to see what they really can do! ;) :kaz: Dollar for dollar you can't beat a Turbo is all I'm saying! :heart:

well had we had more competion we may have had to bolt the 300 h.p. system to start.good to 450 h.p. but i'am a saving that for a special occ.
at IRP my only chance to make a heavy weight (me) go 9 secs. $1800.00
system schintz progessive controler fire and ice auto pressure controller.
custom nx kit.

at IRP my only chance to make a heavy weight (me) go 9 secs. $1800.00 system schintz progessive controler fire and ice auto pressure controller custom nx kit.

Rick, I have no idea what that is or what it does but I can tell you; I WANT ONE!!!! Jeff

Rick, I have no idea what that is or what it does but I can tell you; I WANT ONE!!!! Jeff

I would have never guessed :rofl: go get-em and post the sheets

......... benchracing dynocharts - you will need a bong and a strobe light for this to make any sense at all........ You guys are killing me. :rofl: I work in an engine test lab all day everyday ( 3 dyno's more to come). There are a lot of days where a bong and a strobe light would come in handy.
I am heading up front right now to the boss's desk to see If he will buy these for me. This is the funnyist post I have ever read and I won't be right for the rest of the day. Thanks for injecting some humor into an other wise boring rainy day. We used to have an old engineer whose favorite saying when his shit didn't work right was " It worked on the dyno."
Dale

I would have never guessed :rofl: go get-em and post the sheets
CANT AND WONT POST ALL EAGLES R AND D PROJECTS,THEY INOVATE
AND DONT DUPLICATE.NOS IS THE EASY STUFF NOW NITRO METHANE
IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT CURVE ESP.WITH A SUPER CHARGER. :guns

Is that one step up from lawn mower racing ???? :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:


....more like a step down... at least you are actually riding the mowers :heart:

:stooge:
:bash:
:vrodforu:

We used to have an old engineer whose favorite saying when his shit didn't work right was " It worked on the dyno."
Dale

Dale
..... now you are killing me.... that's too funny... "it worked on the dyno" :spit:

[QUOTE=Johnny HotFoot. "it worked on the dyno" :spit:[/QUOTE]

Thats better than my story " gee I thought it would at least last thru the Dyno"

Rick I wasn't looking for your secrets just the results !!!

CANT AND WONT POST ALL EAGLES R AND D PROJECTS,THEY INOVATE
AND DONT DUPLICATE.NOS IS THE EASY STUFF NOW NITRO METHANE
IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT CURVE ESP.WITH A SUPER CHARGER. :guns

Hey Rick, back in my Top Alcohol days, Top Fuel would run before us, let me tell ya' that a good fuel hydraulic on the starting line really takes the wind out of ya'!! :eek: I could only imagine what a hydraulic would do to a revo whilst leaned over it ready to launch!!!

Dale
..... now you are killing me.... that's too funny... "it worked on the dyno" :spit:
See I Knew I'd drag up some NASCAR guy's Hangin around :sinister: !Maybe one thats Not Freinds with Eagle and want to put it to uhm!!!!!!!! :guns Competition Breeds a Better Product so everybody wins,well sorta :broke: ! ;) :kaz: I'd Love to test my crazy stuff but can't afford to fix it when it Breaks!My Main Sponsor"Visa/Master Charge" just got paid off so it's cash only from here on out! :deal:

Here's the "Dyno" Mike Wilson version so all can see!Notice the MPH and How Flat the Curve is"Power under the curve" for those who know! It show what would be the story in a Race with the same setup bikes against Turbo VS Bigbore+N2O :angeldev: !tell me what ya Think? ;) :kaz:

It tells me you are totally delusional! And furthermore, why would Paul want to send you an engine? The only thing you could do that hasn't been done would be to blow it up! Also it's Master Card not Master Charge. You are a laugh a minute.

It tells me you are totally delusional! And furthermore, why would Paul want to send you an engine? The only thing you could do that hasn't been done would be to blow it up!
It's a JOKE I would Use His engines if he Gave Them to me!!!! :rofl2: Been to the Track yet Speedy? :bs:

It's a JOKE I would Use His engines if he Gave Them to me!!!! :rofl2: Been to the Track yet Speedy? :bs:

Yea with my M3 doing auto cross almost every weekend. And since when is a turbo not considered a power adder?

I got a bong and strobe Light !

Rodney King is rolling over in his cell

I got a bong and strobe Light !
I heard Vaporizing is the Way to Go! :thumb:

See I Knew I'd drag up some NASCAR guy's Hangin around :sinister: !Maybe one thats Not Freinds with Eagle and want to put it to uhm!!!!!!!! :guns Competition Breeds a Better Product so everybody wins,well sorta :broke: ! ;) :kaz: I'd Love to test my crazy stuff but can't afford to fix it when it Breaks!My Main Sponsor"Visa/Master Charge" just got paid off so it's cash only from here on out! :deal:


Now I once heard a racer say (repeating what he had heard at Bonneville) - ya never want to piss somebody off..... or they may just go out and builld a bike with no other purpose but to beat ya :rolleyes: ......... life is so much easier when your friends affectionately call you SLOPoke :driving: :slap: ....
Kevin

Rick I wasn't looking for your secrets just the results !!!

Rick - I do want all your secrets....... screw the results :hiding: :helpme: :driving:

See I Knew I'd drag up some NASCAR guy's Hangin around :sinister: !Maybe one thats Not Freinds with Eagle and want to put it to uhm!!!!!!!! :guns Competition Breeds a Better Product so everybody wins,well sorta :broke: ! ;) :kaz: I'd Love to test my crazy stuff but can't afford to fix it when it Breaks!My Main Sponsor"Visa/Master Charge" just got paid off so it's cash only from here on out! :deal:

I THINK THE LINE STARTS AFTER DON TILLEY!

I THINK THE LINE STARTS AFTER DON TILLEY!
:rofl2:

Hey Rick, back in my Top Alcohol days, Top Fuel would run before us, let me tell ya' that a good fuel hydraulic on the starting line really takes the wind out of ya'!! :eek: I could only imagine what a hydraulic would do to a revo whilst leaned over it ready to launch!!!
PERCENTAGES MY MAN MAKE ALL THE DEF.NOT TO SAY YOU CAN KEEP IT
LIT.COILS ARE A PROBLEM ALSO.BUT ENOUGH OF THAT.

: I THINK THE LINE STARTS AFTER DON TILLEY!
and Keeps Going,and Going and Going!I thought people LOVED Me,but Nothing Like the Following Paul has! :angeldev: They are all just Jealous as I could only Dream of Working for someone Like Mr Bell :notworth: !It's Lonely at the Top and as my new sticker say's"Nobody is your Freind at 200MPH" Thanks Jeff"BADROD" I think you gave me a New Tatto insperation :cheers: !

What about All the othe Big Bores?Not one was close in RWHP just on the Motor.The Turbo's from the other's and my builder made 155+rwhp to 170+rwhp.No Big Bore came close in RWHP with out Help"n2o" and believe me those Motors with the Turbo's are Stock just a Bolt on!Alls I'm saing is theres One Big Bore that made Power,but there are a whole Lot more Turbo's making Big Power but don't take that from me,just ask! ;)

As you already know the best dyno run on the regularly street driven BadRod with no nitrous is 178hp so big bores certainly have no problem keeping up with stock V Rods with bolt on turbos making 150hp – 170 hp.

I have yet to see even one street driven Turbo V Rod run in the 9's much less run 9.84 the best no nitrous run on the BadRod so far. The only folks that I have seen even close as I have watched all year were other Big Bores.

You are soon to see a lot more Big Bore V Rods making big power or maybe you won't actually "see" them because unlike turbos they will look completely stock so they will sneak up on you.

Kaz, I have never said anything negative about turbos except that I personally don't like the way that they look on V Rods. To each his own, I saw some really cool/beautiful turbo V Rods at the rally but they are just not to my personal taste. Your personal turbo is very industrial looking and quite ugly but even with that in mind I know if I want to take the next big step in creating the "ultimate" street driven V Rod then I would need the best of both worlds, a Big Bore Turbo.

Sadly this whole thread that “you” started is really not about Dyno readings, it’s not about Big Bores vs. Turbos, it's about the fact that you first lost the races at KCIR because you didn’t even try and then you very publicly lost the Dyno Shootout and these facts are eating you up inside.

Kaz, you have a big mouth, an even bigger ego and absolutely no class at all. Jeff

As you already know the best dyno run on the regularly street driven BadRod with no nitrous is 178hp so big bores certainly have no problem keeping up with stock V Rods with bolt on turbos making 150hp – 170 hp.

I have yet to see even one street driven Turbo V Rod run in the 9's much less run 9.84 the best no nitrous run on the BadRod so far. The only folks that I have seen even close as I have watched all year were other Big Bores.

You are soon to see a lot more Big Bore V Rods making big power or maybe you won't actually "see" them because unlike turbos they will look completely stock so they will sneak up on you.

Kaz, I have never said anything negative about turbos except that I personally don't like the way that they look on V Rods. To each his own, I saw some really cool/beautiful turbo V Rods at the rally but they are just not to my personal taste. Your personal turbo is very industrial looking and quite ugly but even with that in mind I know if I want to take the next big step in creating the "ultimate" street driven V Rod then I would need the best of both worlds, a Big Bore Turbo.

Sadly this whole thread that “you” started is really not about Dyno readings, it’s not about Big Bores vs. Turbos, it's about the fact that you first lost the races at KCIR because you didn’t even try and then you very publicly lost the Dyno Shootout and these facts are eating you up inside.

Kaz, you have a big mouth, an even bigger ego and absolutely no class at all. Jeff
So Sorry You feel that way. :hmm: My dad once told me Opinions are Like A$$HOLES everybody has one and They all Stink!Talk to me when your Big A$$ Runs a 9 on your Bike and I'll be IMPRESSED :popcorn !
Anyone can write check go out and Race it then you'll see. :2cents:

Kaz, you have a big mouth, an even bigger ego and absolutely no class at all. Jeff

Jeff, you are JUST figuring that out?!?

Kaz, tell Jeff when YOU run a 9 second pass on YOUR bike!

Kaz always had a knack at making new friends...lol

I THINK THE LINE STARTS AFTER DON TILLEY!
I'm about,no wait my bank that's gonna loan me the money for Eagle's BB is about 1,743rd in line.So ,maybe 2-3 yrs from now.By then I should have the money.

You got the couch RJ? I think this is gonna get good.

Kaz always had a knack at making new friends...lol

And he wonders why sponsors want nothing to do with him.

You got the couch RJ? I think this is gonna get good.

My guess is it will get deleted pretty soon. Seems to always happen when people get on Kaz' case. It's bewildering how he's protected here.

You got the couch RJ? I think this is gonna get good.
I just oredered a keg they are delivering it as I type this.

And he wonders why sponsors want nothing to do with him.



My guess is it will get deleted pretty soon. Seems to always happen when people get on Kaz' case. It's bewildering how he's protected here.
ya I'm so Protected!I Have to follow the same rules everyone else does and believe me Max doesn't Play Favorites with me at all.Do you see my post on the front page anymore?No you see and Add for Eagle Harley's Demo Bike :wazzup: !

ya I'm so Protected!I Have to follow the same rules everyone else does and believe me Max doesn't Play Favorites with me at all.Do you see my post on the front page anymore?No you see and Add for Eagle Harley's Demo Bike :wazzup: !

Puuulllleeeeaaaassseee. I have come to the conclusion that you MUST swallow!

No more guessing required as to whether this thread will be deleted or not.

No more guessing required as to whether this thread will be deleted or not.

;)

:popcorn

:coff:

Here's the "Dyno" Mike Wilson version so all can see!Notice the MPH and How Flat the Curve is"Power under the curve" for those who know! It show what would be the story in a Race with the same setup bikes against Turbo VS Bigbore+N2O :angeldev: !tell me what ya Think? ;) :kaz:
Very Good numbers Kaz! You should be pleased. Now I wish everyone would get off your case. Badrod has the baddest but yours ain't nothing to sneeze at. Quit fighting ; quit saying what your going to do because no one will appreciate it until it happens. Just go out and do it and have the last laugh! Donald

Alright enough of this. Remember we are all on the same side here gentlemen.