Our Destroyer just showed up! Getting it set up and it's going to KCIR tomorrow night!

Fred make sure and post some real times from the bike. Oh and take some damn pics for us.

Haha, yeah, I'm bad about that picture thing.

I think they are just going to do some shake down runs to get the feel for the bike and work on setup tomorrow. So probably won't be going too fast.

Let me ride it........ :diablo:

My local dealer will be very happy to hear that. They have 2 on order and their 25th anniversary open house is this Saturday and they were really hoping to have one on the floor for that event. Sounds like they just might!

They have been after me to order (take) one, but I told them I would if they sold it at cost! Of course I would let them have the shop name on it!

Drooooooool. Might have to drop by KCIR tomorrow night! :)

We just got it setup. It's setting in the dyno room waiting to do the static break-in tomorrow. You have to run it at 4000 rpm until it's up to temp then shut down and cool to 100 degrees. Then do the same at 6K an 8K. Then it is on to the track for break-in with a load and hopefully some runs if time allows. Fairly standard heat cycling break-in procedure but it will take some time to get it all done correctly.

I have to work at the bar tomorrow night so I will try to make sure someone takes a camera and gets some pics at the track.

And now I need to see if I can find the part number for these bar clamps because I think my handlebar/fairing treatment is going to change again!

We just got it setup. It's setting in the dyno room waiting to do the static break-in tomorrow. You have to run it at 4000 rpm until it's up to temp then shut down and cool to 100 degrees. Then do the same at 6K an 8K. Then it is on to the track for break-in with a load and hopefully some runs if time allows. Fairly standard heat cycling break-in procedure but it will take some time to get it all done correctly.

I have to work at the bar tomorrow night so I will try to make sure someone takes a camera and gets some pics at the track.

And now I need to see if I can find the part number for these bar clamps because I think my handlebar/fairing treatment is going to change again!

Hooligan - That is great news - ours was supposed to ship on Monday but I have not had any word on status. I am really interested in whatever you can share regarding the bike..... Is the static breakin the only recommended process - any track break in instructions? Hopefully our will arrive soon also.
Kevin

Hooligan - That is great news - ours was supposed to ship on Monday but I have not had any word on status. I am really interested in whatever you can share regarding the bike..... Is the static breakin the only recommended process - any track break in instructions? Hopefully our will arrive soon also.
Kevin

Kevin, they told us at the factory that every bike is supposed to ship with a complete manual that includes break-in & set up info. Hopefully they have the manuals finished now.

I could use a copyu if they are avail in electronic format or even hard copy - anyone know if there are any out there

Yes there are static and track break-in procedures which are listed in the manual which will ship with the bike. And ours failed the static break-in today.

I did the first run at 4K rpms with no problem and let the bike cool down. Then when we started the 6K run I had brought the r's up slowly and was keeping them around 5700-5800 when the motor stopped like it had ran out of gas. The level was very low so we added more fuel. When I did the restart the bike wasn't idling as high as it should have been (idle is set around 2000 rpm) and didn't want to rev. I thought it sounded like a cyclinder wasn't firing and sure enough the front pipe wasn't hot. Started checking some things out, fuel pressure, connections, swapped the front coil, etc. with no improvement. I had opened the butterflies to check that the injectors were working which they were but then we looked back in at the valves and found the problem. One of the exhaust valves had dropped for some reason. I think the keeper came off but we are taking it apart now to find out for sure. I will update as soon as I can.

Oh yeah, the bike comes with a plate to lift the front of the airbox cover for more air flow. I'm sure some of you have done this already. I had thought of doing the same because I have done that with several of my sportbikes that didn't have ram air. There is also a clutch tuning kit and a cover with the bike. Lots of outsourced parts on the bike that should be readily available as well.

Yes there are static and track break-in procedures which are listed in the manual which will ship with the bike. And ours failed the static break-in today.

I did the first run at 4K rpms with no problem and let the bike cool down. Then when we started the 6K run I had brought the r's up slowly and was keeping them around 5700-5800 when the motor stopped like it had ran out of gas. The level was very low so we added more fuel. When I did the restart the bike wasn't idling as high as it should have been (idle is set around 2000 rpm) and didn't want to rev. I thought it sounded like a cyclinder wasn't firing and sure enough the front pipe wasn't hot. Started checking some things out, fuel pressure, connections, swapped the front coil, etc. with no improvement. I had opened the butterflies to check that the injectors were working which they were but then we looked back in at the valves and found the problem. One of the exhaust valves had dropped for some reason. I think the keeper came off but we are taking it apart now to find out for sure. I will update as soon as I can.

Oh yeah, the bike comes with a plate to lift the front of the airbox cover for more air flow. I'm sure some of you have done this already. I had thought of doing the same because I have done that with several of my sportbikes that didn't have ram air. There is also a clutch tuning kit and a cover with the bike. Lots of outsourced parts on the bike that should be readily available as well.
Dam thats Terreble News! :hmm: Sorry to hear it but better now then on the Track! ;)

Hooligan,
P.M. me as soon as you know something. I will be at the plant tomorrow and will help how ever I can, your only 10 minutes away.

Yes there are static and track break-in procedures which are listed in the manual which will ship with the bike. And ours failed the static break-in today.

I did the first run at 4K rpms with no problem and let the bike cool down. Then when we started the 6K run I had brought the r's up slowly and was keeping them around 5700-5800 when the motor stopped like it had ran out of gas. The level was very low so we added more fuel. When I did the restart the bike wasn't idling as high as it should have been (idle is set around 2000 rpm) and didn't want to rev. I thought it sounded like a cyclinder wasn't firing and sure enough the front pipe wasn't hot. Started checking some things out, fuel pressure, connections, swapped the front coil, etc. with no improvement. I had opened the butterflies to check that the injectors were working which they were but then we looked back in at the valves and found the problem. One of the exhaust valves had dropped for some reason. I think the keeper came off but we are taking it apart now to find out for sure. I will update as soon as I can.

Oh yeah, the bike comes with a plate to lift the front of the airbox cover for more air flow. I'm sure some of you have done this already. I had thought of doing the same because I have done that with several of my sportbikes that didn't have ram air. There is also a clutch tuning kit and a cover with the bike. Lots of outsourced parts on the bike that should be readily available as well.


Damn - I hope that this is not a design problem - I know of a llot of high performance set-ups that have a bad tendancy to spit a vavle...... Please keep us informed - I am hoping that ours rolls in next week and that I can get it to the track next weekend.... KSP

I'm waiting for Worth to open the doors this morning and will be calling them immediately. We want to get to the bottom of this ASAP.

Thanks very much for the call and your help with this Turk. I'm sure posting this here will draw some flack to me but I feel the members of this forum deserve to know what is going on. Shouldn't be hidden in my opinion and the speed with which you contacted me and the effort to find and correct any problems with the bikes is just what I was hoping for.

We do know what happened but not why yet. Turk will be here tuesday to help us get the bike back together and start working to find out what caused the problem. I'm personally very happy with the way things are going so far and I'm sure everything will come out fine. Credit to everyone involved at the plant with standing behind the product.

I will not post more on this thread until after we have sorted things out. If anyone has more questions not pertaining to what has been discussed here please start another thread and if I can help I will be happy to.

Fred I would say that was a wise choice.

Max

vrturk is the most knowledgeable guy for the job fred this guy know the engine inside and out

Super, glad to hear it Tyson!

And Max, I'm not too worried about it. I don't work for HDMoCo, I've already been griped at before and there were people around watching when the bike quit running. They were also here when we found out what happened. I just sped up the "word of mouth" and am posting the facts, not heresay. But I will wait for the final verdict and speak with Turk about what if anything he wishes me to submit from here on out. I will respect his wishes on the subject not because he works for H-D but because I feel he is trying to do his best for the product and I appreciate that.

Super, glad to hear it Tyson!

And Max, I'm not too worried about it. I don't work for HDMoCo, I've already been griped at before and there were people around watching when the bike quit running. They were also here when we found out what happened. I just sped up the "word of mouth" and am posting the facts, not heresay. But I will wait for the final verdict and speak with Turk about what if anything he wishes me to submit from here on out. I will respect his wishes on the subject not because he works for H-D but because I feel he is trying to do his best for the product and I appreciate that.
I'm with Max, We just need to know the FACTS..not what MAYBE the cause...My local dealer in Quincy IL has (2) "D's" on the way....

Super, glad to hear it Tyson!

And Max, I'm not too worried about it. I don't work for HDMoCo, I've already been griped at before and there were people around watching when the bike quit running. They were also here when we found out what happened. I just sped up the "word of mouth" and am posting the facts, not heresay. But I will wait for the final verdict and speak with Turk about what if anything he wishes me to submit from here on out. I will respect his wishes on the subject not because he works for H-D but because I feel he is trying to do his best for the product and I appreciate that.

We have a long history on this forum of sharing news and information - good or bad - I think that this has a positive impact on the community and the product. If there is a problem with the machines I think that it serves the community interest to have it out in the open - I know that I plan to share my experience good or negative with others here - that gives us the ability to know the machine - to collectively solve problems, etc. The bkes should not be coming from the factory with problems - I have always been approaching a HD purist in my program - because of the reliabilty of the product, etensive testing and quality control - that is why I am racing a 1250 SE setup and not zipper, etc..... Now I am hoping that this machine has the same level that I have come expect....... hope that you will keep us up to date - any other first impressions.

PS - We need to remember that we are not an extension of Harley marketing - we are their customers, and therefore there is no need for us to try to spin or provide great PR, etc..... we need to be honest and vocal about our experieinces and they need to meet our expectations if we are to be happy or loyal customers...... KSP

Kevin I agree completely about the sharing of information. I also want to make sure that when it is posted that we know the cause though and not just a guess. It's funny how rumors or guesses can get so blown out of proportion fast. I also know that VRTURK is ontop of this and I think we already got him in trouble one time and I want him to feel free to check here and post here without it effecting his job. I think we are fortunate to have members of the moco that can share some information and take an active part in the forum, it helps us all in the end. To me it shows pride and concern for what they are turning out.

Kevin I agree completely about the sharing of information. I also want to make sure that when it is posted that we know the cause though and not just a guess. It's funny how rumors or guesses can get so blown out of proportion fast. I also know that VRTURK is ontop of this and I think we already got him in trouble one time and I want him to feel free to check here and post here without it effecting his job. I think we are fortunate to have members of the moco that can share some information and take an active part in the forum, it helps us all in the end. To me it shows pride and concern for what they are turning out.

Max,
Descretion is often the better part of valour - and you have a really good point regarding both sides of the coin. As you know I race almost total motor comapny hardware - because of my confidence in the product - and it has been absolutely incredible - today I ran back to back passess within .001 - an 11.187 and a 11.186..... the Screaming Eagle big bore set-up has been running like that from the moment it rolled of the rack - won the very first event that we ran it in - was within .003 of the championship chasing a dragbike that ould have rated in the very top of the IHRA if he had entered the national point system - possibly first...... with his winning percentage - the next two races wer lost on breakouts og .002 and a double breakout with a magin of victory of .0011..... those numbers are incredible for a street bike and especially if you consider that it has 14,000 miles and over 650 passes.... never missing even a single elimination from mexhanical problems..... and this is why I am looking forward to our program going to the destroyer...... to say that I have high expectaion would be an understatement.... but of course this is because my expectations are build on past performance.... and even tonight - the race was lost on a red light..... -.001 - now those are statistics of engineering masterpiece IMHO. Hopefully our Destroyer will make it to town this week and if we are lucky with the weather I can take a few break in passes and give the provide some riding :moped: impressions........

Just got the word from H-D, they are giving us a new motor for the bike. I have been asked not to elaborate on why we had a problem with ours. We should have the new one soon and will get the bike together and on the track as soon as we can.

Thanks again vrturk!