Who will be the first to own one? If we do get any I thought this area would be needed. I also purchased the VRXSE.com url to make sure they found there way home. :rofl:

Who will be the first to own one? If we do get any I thought this area would be needed. I also purchased the VRXSE.com url to make sure they found there way home. :rofl:

Max - Working on this one..... this caught me by surprize - but inspired immediate action...... we will see how it unfolds - I can assure you we are taking a serious look at this one..... KSP

The MOCO projected 150 units to us here in KC for manufacturing.

The MOCO projected 150 units to us here in KC for manufacturing.

Thanks for the insight - ordering issue is in hand..... sounds like there is really strong demand - considering how specialized - (i.e. purpose built) these machines are. I hope HD finds this effort to be a great success.

My dealer ordered 3! I told the SM yesterday that I'ld ride one of them for the shop at the local drag strip. The had a racer, but parted ways last year. I would love to try my skills on the bike.

Max - Working on this one..... this caught me by surprize - but inspired immediate action...... we will see how it unfolds - I can assure you we are taking a serious look at this one..... KSP
Me Too My Brother :angeldev: !Heads Up V-ROD Destroyer Class!!!!!!!!I LOVE IT!!!!! :guns I Need to get My Dealership behind Racing again because This will be Huge! :hyper: Outside Sponsers should be able to get some Great Exposure Too! :mrgr:

Anyone heard a projected price on these beasts?

Our people said MSRP of 31-33k.....

Me Too My Brother :angeldev: !Heads Up V-ROD Destroyer Class!!!!!!!!I LOVE IT!!!!! :guns I Need to get My Dealership behind Racing again because This will be Huge! :hyper: Outside Sponsers should be able to get some Great Exposure Too! :mrgr:

Kaz- work your local and regional dealers - HD just gave thenm the ability to put competitive bikes on the track, without the mega cost of a ATiley or Eagle operation - there should be some out there looking for riders..... looks like a great opportunity - KSP

Mike - what are your thoughts on this set-up - it looks extraordinary to me, esprecially for bracket racing....... it even has a two step..... KSP

Anyone hear a price yet? And the small tank shouldn't be a problem at the drag strip. Guess they finally got the fuel capacity/use issue sorted out.

Mike - what are your thoughts on this set-up - it looks extraordinary to me, esprecially for bracket racing....... it even has a two step..... KSP


I think it's a cool deal.......I guess......but, as much as I hate to say it.....you could buy a used mid 9 second bracket assassin for about 1/6th the price if it had Suzuki on the tank.......with all the same goodies....

I guess they are going to be offered with a "non-DOT" title.....race only kinda deal.....just seems kinda pricey to go mid 9's with a bar on it......plus it doesn't take near the talent to run that quickly with a bar......we've got a guy in our points series that never rode a street bike AT ALL, and climbed on a GS1100 (bar/slick bike) running 9.30's......
Guess I'm just not partial to having a grocery cart hanging behind me.....

I guess I should state that I WILL ride one for Cycle Connection if that's the direction they wish to go........for the record......he he he......but it's gonna be huffing N2O if I have anything to do with it.......would be alot more respectable in my book running mid 8's on one......

Mike - just take the bars off.... 4 bolts will do it for you - It looks to me that it will run similar times to what you have in the one you built...... Now I am only speculating but my guess is that it about a 10.00 wthout the bars and a healthy 200 lb rider. Hard launch may pull another .10 to .20 with the bars - and a diet might pul a couple of extra tenths...... by my way of ciphering....... definatly not the cheapest route into the nines.... but as we both know - VRods aren't known as the low cost ride.

yup, take the bars off.......wait a minute!....that's basically what I have now!
They are saying 170hp on gas though.....very healthy numbers ......
don't know how they can do that out of such a small motor......

I saw 165 - I am assuming that is at the crank..... therefore 145 to 150 RWHP - just my interpratation of the published litature. Race gas also - 14:1 set-up . It is similar to what you have - just factory built - The nice part is that it will allow allot of dealers to get into racing without a major build program - also allows anyone that wants to race without the hassle of building to buy a factory prepped model - all the specs look pretty impressive to me. Dealer sponsorship will be important to the success of this product.... KSP

6-o-one, half dozen of another......
We're getting 160 rwhp but it's taking 1550cc to do it......with 11.5 to 1 CR......
I think even with a wheelie bar, the projected 9:50's would require a jockey for a rider.....they said it even includes an MTC lockup.....I wonder what the factory setup is in the clutch?

I hear Andrew and GT have been running 9.70's testing them. The motors will be sealed so it will be rider and setup.

How mmuch? Anyone have any idea?

How mmuch? Anyone have any idea?


about 30k MSRP.........

My dealer called me from the show, I ordered mine, why? my wife said yes! Price about $31,000 ++++ normal stuff. claimed power to be 170+ HP, and 90+ torque. Also claimed speeds to be "below 9s" with skilled (and probably skinny rider). time frame unknown, gives me time to figure out how I will pay!

rub-iam it sounds like you might be one of the first, congratulations. Should be one hell of a ride.

any pics out there yet

never mind

We're getting one to play with.

My dealer called me from the show, I ordered mine, why? my wife said yes! Price about $31,000 ++++ normal stuff. claimed power to be 170+ HP, and 90+ torque. Also claimed speeds to be "below 9s" with skilled (and probably skinny rider). time frame unknown, gives me time to figure out how I will pay!


"BELOW 9'S"........don't be disappointed.....wont happen even with Kaz on it....

"BELOW 9'S"........don't be disappointed.....wont happen even with Kaz on it....

Below 9's means high 8's to me. Never happen, doesn't make enough beans to be that quick. Maybe in the high 9's...

GT has run a 9.49 on it so far.

"BELOW 9'S"........don't be disappointed.....wont happen even with Kaz on it....
WANNA BET????? :sinister: ;) I have a Nice Little Turbo and NOS Sytem to add to Her if I ever Get the Chance!!!! :kaz:

WANNA BET????? :sinister: ;) I have a Nice Little Turbo and NOS Sytem to add to Her if I ever Get the Chance!!!! :kaz:

Zero to BOOM in 8 seconds flat :angeldev:

Zero to BOOM in 8 seconds flat :angeldev:


One thing for sure, Kaz knows how to keep the mileage low on his rides.... :banghead:

Zero to BOOM in 8 seconds flat :angeldev:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I'm thinking under 8 seconds... :spit:

Kaz - I hope that you get the opportunity to ride one of these beasts. :kaz:

GT has run a 9.49 on it so far.

And how do you know this leadfoot???????? what is your source for this info....
KSP

WANNA BET????? :sinister: ;) I have a Nice Little Turbo and NOS Sytem to add to Her if I ever Get the Chance!!!! :kaz:


we're talking "out of the box" Kaz.......jeez.......ease up on the caloric burn throttle......

And how do you know this leadfoot???????? what is your source for this info....
KSP
That's what he told our guys at the dealer show. Hopefully I heard that right. He would be a great benchmark to use.

Any body know the claimed weight?

Any body know the claimed weight?
526# dry and 548# running with wheelie bar.

OK, just got back from my dealer with literature at hand: May be right, may be wrong, but none the less a very cool package! Hines rode it out on the stage at the show.
- "over 165 horsepower" **claims they were told more like 175 @ 10,000 RPM (165 is @ 9700 RPM
- Torque 97 @ 7600 RPM
- compression 14.0:1
- MTC multi stage lock up clutch with electronic-over-air shifting system
- hand controls look stock, convereted and labeld for shifting
- Insists that below 9 second times have been achieved.

regards

526# dry and 548# running with wheelie bar.

698 With Super Kaz on top....
4598 On back of Wrecker after Kaz makes his first run ....... :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

You got the first round of beers in Flordia Kaz !!!!!

weight according to brochure:
Dry weight 510 and 526 with wheelie bar

OK, just got back from my dealer with literature at hand: May be right, may be wrong, but none the less a very cool package! Hines rode it out on the stage at the show.
- "over 165 horsepower" **claims they were told more like 175 @ 10,000 RPM (165 is @ 9700 RPM
- Torque 97 @ 7600 RPM
- compression 14.0:1
- MTC multi stage lock up clutch with electronic-over-air shifting system
- hand controls look stock, convereted and labeld for shifting
- Insists that below 9 second times have been achieved.

regards

The literature insists that BELOW nine second times have been achieved???? Are you sure it says "BELOW 9 second times"??? Based on the HP numbers presented and the weight......that's an outright lie!.......I think it must either be a typo or perhaps you're reading it incorrectly.....if not.....it's a flat out lie.....based on simple physics, it's absolutely impossible....

698 With Super Kaz on top....
4598 On back of Wrecker after Kaz makes his first run ....... :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

You got the first round of beers in Flordia Kaz !!!!!THat is funny............Actually have my wife scared on this one.Been thinking real hard.But gotta move quick before they are gone :stilpoke:

698 With Super Kaz on top....
4598 On back of Wrecker after Kaz makes his first run ....... :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

You got the first round of beers in Flordia Kaz !!!!!


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!

you very well may be right, certanly it sounds like you are more qualified thank I to make that judgement. Literature does not say under 9. That is simply what the dealer insists they were told at the dealer meeting. that it has been done. Actual figure given was in the very high 8s... rest of the figures were read off the brochure.

Hmm, sounds pretty slick.
Dunno about sub 9's though, mid to high mebbe with a top jockey.
I've just spent a fortune on a purpose built race rod so I won't be buying, sure as hell would if I had the money though :broke:

No way below 9's out of the box but mid 9's sound reasonable with pro rider; AHDRA bikes are running mid 9's at 82 ci and the VRXSE is 79 ci.

I'm sure that even mid to low 8 second passes are indeed possible on the bike with adders (turbo and/or nitrous)...but normally aspirated "out of the crate" it is impossible.....my rule of thumb on a bike is 20# = 1/10 second in the quarter...ie shed 20lbs and pick up a tenth in the quarter......so technically the rider would have to weigh less than my 4 year old daughter to run an 8 on it......oh, wait a minute, Kaz?......are you there?.......
Seriously though.....they obviously misunderstood......maybe the person said it could run high 8's with adders or something and they missed that part....but not like it is....
They need to be very careful about what they say though.....this bike is meant for the drag racing rider.....and most of them are going to wonder why the thing only runs mid 9's (at best) and they were told it would run high 8's......not good PR, ya know?
Better off to stick with just quoting horsepower numbers and when they ask how quick?......just shrug shoulders and smile......better business......

No way below 9's out of the box but mid 9's sound reasonable with pro rider; AHDRA bikes are running mid 9's at 82 ci and the VRXSE is 79 ci.


and doing it without wheelie bars too.......but AHDRA bikes are not mass produced...they are custom built engines.

and doing it without wheelie bars too.......but AHDRA bikes are not mass produced...they are custom built engines.
Very true. The class rules don't allow anything too exotic it's mostly off the shelf produced stuff but the fast guys have their little tweaks....

Well they didn't publish any such number, smart enough not to do so. even at mid or high 9s it's a great place to start. hope to try it our before the end of the year....

According the the formulas that were given here a while ago with a very light rider (Kaz is 140 lbs.) you could achieve an 8.99 with about 182 HP. But since the math is all theoretical and there have been claims as high as 175HP out of the box, I'm sure that a few horses less with a VERY skilled rider might just do the trick. Also, I'm wondering if this thing already runs NOS. Sure looks like a NOS bottle on the on picture they have on the web site (where a bag would be on the left side...)

Of course with a very FAT rider like myself, best you could hope for is about high 9's...

According the the formulas that were given here a while ago with a very light rider (Kaz is 140 lbs.) you could achieve an 8.99 with about 182 HP. But since the math is all theoretical and there have been claims as high as 175HP out of the box, I'm sure that a few horses less with a VERY skilled rider might just do the trick. Also, I'm wondering if this thing already runs NOS. Sure looks like a NOS bottle on the on picture they have on the web site (where a bag would be on the left side...)

Of course with a very FAT rider like myself, best you could hope for is about high 9's...

Correct, on top of which if you look at HD's claimed weights in their promo material against the measured weights in the road tests (this is especially true for the street rod), there is around a 15 to 25 Kg discrepancy.
Sub 9 is not realistic in the real world, in truth I'd be suprised if Joe Normal (that's me) could break into the 9's with this machine straight out of the box, in fact he'd probably get into some real difficulty with the wheelie bar fitted. :2cents:

Actually times on a drag bike setup with wheelie bars should be mostly dpeendant on rider weight. It comes equipped with a two step - so you open the throttle completely when staged and it holds the rev at a predetermined place - then drop the clutch for launch.... then when the shift light comes on you push the button....... Mike of course is right in his numbers at about a tenth per 20 lbs..... let me go and calculate for a second on 175, which sounds optomistic at the real wheel.... KSP

I will stick with my original predictions.... pure speculation of course..... mid nines possible.

We were going to have one of these at the Moroso event but they recently changed their minds and decided to stick with debuting it to the public at some little gathering way up north. I can’t remember what the name of it was……….Oh yeah it’s called Sturgis anybody ever heard of it??

Actually I think they were afraid that their new wonder toy would get beat by the BADROD!!

Thanks for trying Jamie!! Jeff

Here is a really rough drawing of a little customizing, seat and color...... any thoughts?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I'm thinking under 8 seconds... :spit:

Kaz - I hope that you get the opportunity to ride one of these beasts. :kaz:
I've made a Few Calls but Nobody back yet has called back"from the Dealer show" here in Vegas :rolleyes: .I spoke with Tripp Nobles about it today and he said it was to be a SEALED MOTOR Class so setup and Rider are the Key.I'm hoping my Local Dealership will want to get involved,but I'd be willing to Promote anyone Brave Enough to Give Me a Chance :angelwin: !I can shed another 2 0r 3lbs but I'm about as Lean"4.2%" as I can be and Not get Sick! :hidesbeh: Very Exciting Turn Key Harley Thats for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hyper:

Show me sponsorships then I will believe.

If you got it they will come.
What adress would you like your Personally Autographed Super Kaz Racing T-shirt and Sticker Mailed too? :angeldev:

10500 N. Stemmons Freeway
Dallas, Texas 75220
Attn: Stacy Mikkelsen-V.P. Of Marketing
PM Sent :kaz:

10500 N. Stemmons Freeway
Dallas, Texas 75220
Attn: Stacy Mikkelsen-V.P. Of Marketing

Stacy can I sign you up to the Village People Fan Club with the above address ? :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

I've made a Few Calls but Nobody back yet has called back"from the Dealer show" here in Vegas :rolleyes: .I spoke with Tripp Nobles about it today and he said it was to be a SEALED MOTOR Class so setup and Rider are the Key.I'm hoping my Local Dealership will want to get involved,but I'd be willing to Promote anyone Brave Enough to Give Me a Chance :angelwin: !I can shed another 2 0r 3lbs but I'm about as Lean"4.2%" as I can be and Not get Sick! :hidesbeh: Very Exciting Turn Key Harley Thats for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hyper:

Kaz .... If you get any smaller were going to have to start feeding you through an IV. :cheers: :cheers:

O.K. come clean Kaz... the only interest you have in the VRXSE is it comes stock WITH NO FORK REFLECTORS! Well, that and the 1300 cc revolution...

Kaz .... If you get any smaller were going to have to start feeding you through an IV. :cheers: :cheers:
Ya I get that "Your Tooo skinny" all the Time from my Family and Friends! :hidesbeh: I tell them I need to stay as light as Possible for Racing but some people Just don't get it. :slap: Trained 30 minutes on my Regular Bike "Cevelo P-3" with my Full Leathers and Riding Gear"51% Humidity" yesterday and 90 degrees and I was DYING!!!! :yak: Don't know how my Little Body is gonna handle the Heat and Humidity,but I'll be there and Ready to Race! :angeldev:

Ya I get that "Your Tooo skinny" all the Time from my Family and Friends! :hidesbeh: I tell them I need to stay as light as Possible for Racing but some people Just don't get it. :slap: Trained 30 minutes on my Regular Bike "Cevelo P-3" with my Full Leathers and Riding Gear"51% Humidity" yesterday and 90 degrees and I was DYING!!!! :yak: Don't know how my Little Body is gonna handle the Heat and Humidity,but I'll be there and Ready to Race! :angeldev:


Kaz, drink plenty of powerade or something similar while here, the humidity is a killer. Heat index in my area(west coast FL) has been running around 105, not sure what the east coast is like right now. When there isnt a breeze you'll be soaked from sweat in 20 mins.

Kaz, drink plenty of powerade or something similar while here, the humidity is a killer. Heat index in my area(west coast FL) has been running around 105, not sure what the east coast is like right now. When there isnt a breeze you'll be soaked from sweat in 20 mins.
The Heats No Problem for me"Vegas has been setting Heat Records this month" it's the HUMITITY!!!! :yak: How do you guy's handle it?We are used to single digit Humity so 50+% is insane for US :hidesbeh: !

What adress would you like your Personally Autographed Super Kaz Racing T-shirt and Sticker Mailed too? :angeldev:


Sooooooo......does everyone at Bonneville consider themselves as sponsors????

I want a tshirt and sticker too!......

Sooooooo......does everyone at Bonneville consider themselves as sponsors????

I want a tshirt and sticker too!......
We have got something Big in the works! :angeldev: Shirts/Stickers won't be Finished till everything is worked out! ;) :kaz:

I Want The First Ones!!!!!

The Heats No Problem for me"Vegas has been setting Heat Records this month" it's the HUMITITY!!!! :yak: How do you guy's handle it?We are used to single digit Humity so 50+% is insane for US :hidesbeh: !

Damn Kaz - 50% is considered "Good Air" - or NO Humidity where I come from - we have to watch dew points as humidity approaches 100% as helmets and glasses begin to fog on the line at night........

Don't come to Queensland to drag mate. If we get down to 80% humidity in summer street parties break out

Currerntly 81 degrees 77 percent humidity. Heat index 85 at midnight.

160 orders at the dealer show. (there will be more as word spreads.)
150 were scheduled in 2 initial builds, 100 first, then 50. But there is capability to increase the second run.

Expect some to end up as coffee table ornaments.

My source says there are alot of orders for 2 or more......one for display in the dealership(s) ......

Damn Kaz - 50% is considered "Good Air" - or NO Humidity where I come from - we have to watch dew points as humidity approaches 100% as helmets and glasses begin to fog on the line at night........
Ya thats insane"100%",but I wiil do what ever it takes to be The Best!Guess I''l just have to Cowboy Up and Handle it! :angeldev: Hows the Anti Fog stuff work?I used to use it on my Ski Goggle when I race Far West and Nastar events back in the Day. :ride:

160 orders at the dealer show. (there will be more as word spreads.)
150 were scheduled in 2 initial builds, 100 first, then 50. But there is capability to increase the second run.

Expect some to end up as coffee table ornaments.

Manufacturing Engineers can always increase production :D :D :D :cheers:

GET 'ER DONE!!!

when my order went in, they reportedly had 275 orders, that was on Sunday mid-day. Anyone want to talk some sense in to me...... I am a 40 something guy who loves motorcycles, but probably kidding myself about racing this thing....... and it may be a very expensive coffee table ornnament.

Ya thats insane"100%",but I wiil do what ever it takes to be The Best!Guess I''l just have to Cowboy Up and Handle it! :angeldev: Hows the Anti Fog stuff work?I used to use it on my Ski Goggle when I race Far West and Nastar events back in the Day. :ride:

Antifog stuff works ok for the glasses but not as good on the shield - tends to make weird night light streaks on your shield creating a strange and distracting effect as you count down the lights..... I bought a Simpson Helmet with a big breath gaurd and anti og shield........ and it does the trick pretty well.
KSP

when my order went in, they reportedly had 275 orders, that was on Sunday mid-day. Anyone want to talk some sense in to me...... I am a 40 something guy who loves motorcycles, but probably kidding myself about racing this thing....... and it may be a very expensive coffee table ornnament.

Heres some sense, in 30 years you are either gonna be pushing up daisies or too old to do it.
We walk this way but once, go for it totally & absolutely & FTW.
I'm 50 this year & I'm enjoying racing more than anything I have ever done in a long & interesting life.
The best has yet to come!

ditto Paul's post.........plus.......PUT THE BOTTLE ON IT!.....let it try to pull your arms out of socket! how's that for sense? You can do it man! Quit writing yourself off already.....just get good safety apparel and keep the beast in safe working condition....

ditto Paul's post.........plus.......PUT THE BOTTLE ON IT!.....let it try to pull your arms out of socket! how's that for sense? You can do it man! Quit writing yourself off already.....just get good safety apparel and keep the beast in safe working condition....

Correct me if I am wrong,b ut doesn't this bike already come with a bottle on it? If you look at the pictures on the http://trevdeeley.nolet.com/class/display.html?id=854 the third and forth pics bothe show a bottle attached on the right side about the foot peg.

That bottle is for the air shifter..... KSP

That bottle is for the air shifter..... KSP
OH.. I an idiot...

OH.. I an idiot...

Easy to confuse.... both bottles look the same...... KSP

Antifog stuff works ok for the glasses but not as good on the shield - tends to make weird night light streaks on your shield creating a strange and distracting effect as you count down the lights..... I bought a Simpson Helmet with a big breath gaurd and anti og shield........ and it does the trick pretty well.
KSP


use a dual lens shield ,, no fog issues on the snowmobile ,, 100mph , 10 below zero / 98.6 inside

160 orders at the dealer show. (there will be more as word spreads.) 150 were scheduled in 2 initial builds, 100 first, then 50. But there is capability to increase the second run. Expect some to end up as coffee table ornaments.Holy Horsepower Batman, they've got 400 orders for these as of end of last week!!! :eek:
It seems the initial order estimates have been Destroyed!

That's 400 people that shouldn't wonder why everyone else at the strip has the same VRod as they have.......he he he

What adress would you like your Personally Autographed Super Kaz Racing T-shirt and Sticker Mailed too? :angeldev:


Umm kaz i'll take some if your giveing out! hehe

Ok I think I just messed up.

I went by my dealer talking to the GM about the bike and he said he was looking at it but didnt have anyone in mind to ride. Well yesterday was the 10th and orders had to be in by the 8th. I told him if anything changed on being able to order that I would ride it for him. Now Im kicking myself in the ass for not getting to the daeler sooner.

If anyone knows of a way to still get on the list please let me know And I will get with the dealer.

when my order went in, they reportedly had 275 orders, that was on Sunday mid-day. Anyone want to talk some sense in to me...... I am a 40 something guy who loves motorcycles, but probably kidding myself about racing this thing....... and it may be a very expensive coffee table ornnament.

rub if you can afford one and want one who cares what you do with it. I envy you for being able to have that coffee table ornament, you go for it brother. We will expect a large number of photos for the forum however.

Max

... orders are up to over 450...

:plause:

... orders are up to over 450...

:plause:


Was the deadline 8-8-05 to order theses bikes

yup, August 8th was the deadline......

Mike - just take the bars off.... 4 bolts will do it for you - It looks to me that it will run similar times to what you have in the one you built...... Now I am only speculating but my guess is that it about a 10.00 wthout the bars and a healthy 200 lb rider. Hard launch may pull another .10 to .20 with the bars - and a diet might pul a couple of extra tenths...... by my way of ciphering....... definatly not the cheapest route into the nines.... but as we both know - VRods aren't known as the low cost ride.


what! what! say it my brotha!!!!" arent known as the low cost ride " :cheers: if had the cash id buy it! that bike will be a collector one day... :cool:

I am hoping that we are going to get delivery this year - it would be nice to get it out on to the track this year.....KSP

put a delay box and a hydraulic clutch release and give them a taste of their own medicine, Kevin! Tear 'em a new one!

I am thinking that an air clutch might work..... have you used on of those beforeMike?

Yeah, I've used it....works pretty well if you have the air source......also you can use an $80 NCC timer instead of a $600 crossover delay box if you can add/subtract numbers quickly......
If you get ready to do it, let me know.....we'll get more into the specifics.......