It's been awhile since Big Bores have hit the scene. Post up guys. Don't want the turbo crowd to think they are getting picked on.

1430 Big Bore (http://www.v-rodforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=6070&catid=searchresults&searchid=2455)

It's been awhile since Big Bores have hit the scene. Post up guys. Don't want the turbo crowd to think they are getting picked on.

1430 Big Bore (http://www.v-rodforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=6070&catid=searchresults&searchid=2455)
:popcorn

It's been awhile since Big Bores have hit the scene. Post up guys. Don't want the turbo crowd to think they are getting picked on.

1430 Big Bore (http://www.v-rodforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=6070&catid=searchresults&searchid=2455)




I would think the torque numbers would be a little higher in 100+ range being it is a 1430?

:popcorn Good numbers by the way.

It's been awhile since Big Bores have hit the scene. Post up guys. Don't want the turbo crowd to think they are getting picked on.

1430 Big Bore (http://www.v-rodforums.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=6070&catid=searchresults&searchid=2455)Well its been a while since I have seen my bike. Not finished yet. Had problem with RT (would not recognize the bike-pos!) So...still on dyno awaiting RT. Hopefully this week I will have some numbers.!!

I would think the torque numbers would be a little higher in 100+ range being it is a 1430?
Brent; that is with Cary Faas pipe. Doesn't make the torque on the upper end. Different pipe; torque is on the high end. But who rides wide open all the time? I don't. I believe super traps put the torque on the high end but not on the low end. One of those things where ya just have to decide how you want to ride it and go with it. This was the dyno from the 4th break-in run. I am sure there is some left. Donald

Sure wish the dyno link worked. What were the numbers?

It use to work! No telling what happened; maybe link blew a head gasket! 145 hp 90 lbs torque

Sweet! is it a stock crank?

1/4 in" stroke

It use to work! No telling what happened; maybe link blew a head gasket! 145 hp 90 lbs torque
140 and 90 from a 1430??? Hmmm. Something aint right about that!

140 and 90 from a 1430??? Hmmm. Something aint right about that!
:popcorn

:popcorn
Hey Rick. Whats with the corn? :) Can you believe the guys putting my bike back together (yes its hard to believe I still don't have it back) did not degree the cams...Should they have known that??? They had to pull motor back out and do it. Now done and on the dyno as we speak...I will say a prayer, but for a 1430 should you be getting more torque??? 145/90 is what I hope to get with my 1318 set up... of course the way my luck has been running I will probably lose some power when all is said and done :laugh:
Big ride this WE in the Bayou...I hope I am there. I definately aint showing up on that jap bike.

Hey Rick. Whats with the corn? :) Can you believe the guys putting my bike back together (yes its hard to believe I still don't have it back) did not degree the cams...Should they have known that??? They had to pull motor back out and do it. Now done and on the dyno as we speak...I will say a prayer, but for a 1430 should you be getting more torque??? 145/90 is what I hope to get with my 1318 set up... of course the way my luck has been running I will probably lose some power when all is said and done :laugh:
Big ride this WE in the Bayou...I hope I am there. I definately aint showing up on that jap bike.
Good luck!

I`m getting 140rwhp and 98ft#`s of torque from my 1340. I did do extensive head work, cams and 58mm throttle bodies. Rusty and Brent and 6 or 7 others got to ride it in Kissemini on the 6th. On the 7th I went back on the dyno so these are fresh numbers. Paul Deiner and others saw the printout. Paul rode my bike and I rode his 148-150hp bike. We did 3 runs out behind the airport and ran neck and neck each time. FYI: Paul built my engine at Eagle HD.

I`m getting 140rwhp and 98ft#`s of torque from my 1340. I did do extensive head work, cams and 58mm throttle bodies. Rusty and Brent and 6 or 7 others got to ride it in Kissemini on the 6th. On the 7th I went back on the dyno so these are fresh numbers. Paul Deiner and others saw the printout. Paul rode my bike and I rode his 148-150hp bike. We did 3 runs out behind the airport and ran neck and neck each time. FYI: Paul built my engine at Eagle HD.
That's excellent! I bet it is something. Post your dyno sheets if you can. What exhaust are you running? Thanks Donald

:popcorn
I get it

I`m getting 140rwhp and 98ft#`s of torque from my 1340. I did do extensive head work, cams and 58mm throttle bodies. Rusty and Brent and 6 or 7 others got to ride it in Kissemini on the 6th. On the 7th I went back on the dyno so these are fresh numbers. Paul Deiner and others saw the printout. Paul rode my bike and I rode his 148-150hp bike. We did 3 runs out behind the airport and ran neck and neck each time. FYI: Paul built my engine at Eagle HD.
Thats what I am talking about! Who ported your heads, cams?, I sure hope my numbers look like yours, but since I have not been able to ride my bike since fu*!&*g December...Can you describe the difference from your stock set up as far as seat of the pants?? I mean is it night and day..(drool)

I am not very good on the computer and I don`t know how to post. Having said that I am running a SE exhaust with some internal modifactions. It is very hard to tell the motor has been modified when at idle but when cranked on you sure as hell know.
The difference between a stock set up and mine is at a whole 'nother level. Perhaps one of the guys that rode it in Kissemini might want to comment. I`m probably a little preudice, let`s hear from a 3rd party. Chopin, it sounds as if you`ve got the right stuff done to your motor but to get the max out of it you have to be tuned perfect. The best I`ve ever seen is Fred Eno dba drdyno.com. Go on his web site, that`s my V-ROD pictured there. He can and will help anyone. Hope this info helps.
Peter

Hey Rick. Whats with the corn? :) Can you believe the guys putting my bike back together (yes its hard to believe I still don't have it back) did not degree the cams...Should they have known that??? They had to pull motor back out and do it. Now done and on the dyno as we speak...I will say a prayer, but for a 1430 should you be getting more torque??? 145/90 is what I hope to get with my 1318 set up... of course the way my luck has been running I will probably lose some power when all is said and done :laugh:
Big ride this WE in the Bayou...I hope I am there. I definately aint showing up on that jap bike.
THE CORN MEANS I'AM WATCHING, MY 1320 HAS 145 H.P. 93LBS. DO I THINK
A 1430 SHOULD MAKE MORE? BETTER OR I WASTED MY MONEY ON A NEW
CRANK.EVERTHING BEING THE SAME THAT IS.AND IT'S BEEN STATED BEFORE
GO RUN A NUMBER THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.DYNO RUNS
ONLY STATE WHAT THE MOTOR CAN DO,HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING
THE POWER TO THE GROUND.UNLESS YOU DO THAT IT MEANS NOTHING TO
ME.SO I JUST WATCH. ;)

Rick, is your crank "balanced"? Have you looked at going to an electric water pump and cutting the factory pump off the shaft to reduce a little more internal engine drag?

Rick, is your crank "balanced"? Have you looked at going to an electric water pump and cutting the factory pump off the shaft to reduce a little more internal engine drag?
MY NEW CRANK IS BALANCED,POLISHED.STROKED.LOOKED MORE AT ELIMINATING THE ALT.RATHER THAN THE WATER PUMP TO REDUCE DRAG.
ON THE RACE BIKE. NOT REALLY A BIG DEAL WITH MY STREET BIKE.

I am not very good on the computer and I don`t know how to post. Having said that I am running a SE exhaust with some internal modifactions. It is very hard to tell the motor has been modified when at idle but when cranked on you sure as hell know.
The difference between a stock set up and mine is at a whole 'nother level. Perhaps one of the guys that rode it in Kissemini might want to comment. I`m probably a little preudice, let`s hear from a 3rd party. Chopin, it sounds as if you`ve got the right stuff done to your motor but to get the max out of it you have to be tuned perfect. The best I`ve ever seen is Fred Eno dba drdyno.com. Go on his web site, that`s my V-ROD pictured there. He can and will help anyone. Hope this info helps.
Peter
Well my bike is back together. Mechanic says he cannot use RT because he cant get enough fuel to the bike???? He changed it over to PCRIII and now with my set up I am getting 135/84. Hell NO!!. not for that kind of money. I think I will put the RT back and can Fred.

Anyway My point: for 7K 135/84 aint gonna cut it. I dont believe that the RT is the problem...Mechanic suggested that I get bigger injectors etc... to get more fuel. The bike dies full throttle. Mechanic states there is only so much fuel you can safely get with the RT. WTF...I dont care... Can anyone help. I think for my setup 140/90 is not too much to ask.

Well my bike is back together. Mechanic says he cannot use RT because he cant get enough fuel to the bike???? He changed it over to PCRIII and now with my set up I am getting 135/84. Hell NO!!. not for that kind of money. I think I will put the RT back and can Fred.
Really :rolleyes: ?I made 197rwhp with the stock injectors,but we had a special in the tank pump. :thumb: I'd say you should get a Refund and Buy one of my Turbo systems! ;) :kaz:

Chopin, those numbers are not bad considering what may or may not have been done to your heads. I do know if you went onto drdyno`s dyno you will get every bit of HP that engine of yours is capeable of with what`s in it. Please remember without more air you`re not going to get more power.

Anyway My point: for 7K 135/84 aint gonna cut it. I dont believe that the RT is the problem...Mechanic suggested that I get bigger injectors etc... to get more fuel. The bike dies full throttle. Mechanic states there is only so much fuel you can safely get with the RT. WTF...I dont care... Can anyone help. I think for my setup 140/90 is not too much to ask.
:popcorn

Chopin, those numbers are not bad considering what may or may not have been done to your heads. I do know if you went onto drdyno`s dyno you will get every bit of HP that engine of yours is capeable of with what`s in it. Please remember without more air you`re not going to get more power.
OKVROD...You jinxed me :laugh: I had the heads ported by zippers...with oversized valves...a .49/.45 lift cam...58mmTB....and PCRIII at the moment.
I don't know, but I really thought I was gonna get a little more..esp. in TQ.
I am dissappointed. I say Dr. Dynos Web page.... I am not sure how to get a hold of him....just at events??? :moped: Ahhh what the...I'll take the R1 out for a spin.

OKVROD...You jinxed me :laugh: I had the heads ported by zippers...with oversized valves...a .49/.45 lift cam...58mmTB....and PCRIII at the moment.
I don't know, but I really thought I was gonna get a little more..esp. in TQ.
I am dissappointed. I say Dr. Dynos Web page.... I am not sure how to get a hold of him....just at events??? :moped: Ahhh what the...I'll take the R1 out for a spin.
Maybe one of these days I will get honest with numbers! Seems even the big bore guys; don't like to share info and maps. And I thought we all were family. Maybe Rick can share a RT map with ya. Might bring your numbers up. He is one of the best on here and knows his stuff. Just a thought. Donald

Fred Eno aka drdyno phone number is 860-599-2396. He lives in Connecticut.

Paul Deiter`s number at Eagle HD is 765-448-9132. He`s in Indiana. They build a good motor and tune quite well.

Based on what you say is in your motor I would expect a little better results than what you are reporting. Good luck, hope this info helps.

Timing, What has he done with the timing? [ignition] There is pletty of fuel up to 200rwhp. I find it hard to beleave he would dump the R/T for lack of fuel, but he must have seen some strange numbers to do that. Your numbers are fair, not great, but OK. The D And D runs a very bad Baffle [IMHO] Great Pipe, Bad Baffle. You may have better luck taking the baffle out.
PS: I'm getting 156-158 RWHP and 107-108 FTlbs Torque with our 1430. Happy Dyno? Maybe, But the things just shread tires, shure are fun!

Timing, What has he done with the timing? [ignition] There is pletty of fuel up to 200rwhp. I find it hard to beleave he would dump the R/T for lack of fuel, but he must have seen some strange numbers to do that. Your numbers are fair, not great, but OK. The D And D runs a very bad Baffle [IMHO] Great Pipe, Bad Baffle. You may have better luck taking the baffle out.
PS: I'm getting 156-158 RWHP and 107-108 FTlbs Torque with our 1430. Happy Dyno? Maybe, But the things just shread tires, shure are fun!
LOL... my engine builder speaks!

Timing, What has he done with the timing? [ignition] There is pletty of fuel up to 200rwhp. I find it hard to beleave he would dump the R/T for lack of fuel, but he must have seen some strange numbers to do that. Your numbers are fair, not great, but OK. The D And D runs a very bad Baffle [IMHO] Great Pipe, Bad Baffle. You may have better luck taking the baffle out.
PS: I'm getting 156-158 RWHP and 107-108 FTlbs Torque with our 1430. Happy Dyno? Maybe, But the things just shread tires, shure are fun!
I am not sure what he has done or could do with the timing. Explain to me how a map can be used with RT. Is it similar to how a map is used in Powercommander???

THE CORN MEANS I'AM WATCHING, MY 1320 HAS 145 H.P. 93LBS. DO I THINK
A 1430 SHOULD MAKE MORE? BETTER OR I WASTED MY MONEY ON A NEW
CRANK.EVERTHING BEING THE SAME THAT IS.AND IT'S BEEN STATED BEFORE
GO RUN A NUMBER THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.DYNO RUNS
ONLY STATE WHAT THE MOTOR CAN DO,HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING
THE POWER TO THE GROUND.UNLESS YOU DO THAT IT MEANS NOTHING TO
ME.SO I JUST WATCH. ;)
My baseline (after exhaust and stage 1 download) was 119/71. I would have expected about 20-25% increase with my mods dont you think (30% with an expert Vrod/RT tuner). I will let him tweak it a bit more. I think he can get 140/85 or so. He does not think he can get 90 TQ. ...Otherwise....well shit I dont know...

My baseline (after exhaust and stage 1 download) was 119/71. I would have expected about 20-25% increase with my mods dont you think (30% with an expert Vrod/RT tuner). I will let him tweak it a bit more. I think he can get 140/85 or so. He does not think he can get 90 TQ. ...Otherwise....well shit I dont know...
If your baseline on a stock motor was 119 ...I'd think that it was probably a happy dyno. and the baseline torque was bit bit low at 71. Most are somewhere around 110rwhp/75lbs torque stock. HD race tuners use maps...yes It's my understanding the pipes you use make all the difference in your torque and also when in the rpm range it shows up. But again I have been wrong before.

Maybe one of these days I will get honest with numbers! Seems even the big bore guys; don't like to share info and maps. And I thought we all were family. Maybe Rick can share a RT map with ya. Might bring your numbers up. He is one of the best on here and knows his stuff. Just a thought. Donald
YOU HAVE TO TRICK THE RACE TUNER WITH ENGINE SIZE SO YOU WON'T RUN
OUT OF FUEL. 800-666-4644 CALL AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW. ALL MOTORS ARE
DIFFERENT SO I CAN HELP YOUR TUNER GET A GOOD START. BUT YOU HAVE
PLENTY OF INJECTOR AND FUEL FOR YOUR SIZE MOTOR.

YOU HAVE TO TRICK THE RACE TUNER WITH ENGINE SIZE SO YOU WON'T RUN
OUT OF FUEL. 800-666-4644 CALL AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW. ALL MOTORS ARE
DIFFERENT SO I CAN HELP YOUR TUNER GET A GOOD START. BUT YOU HAVE
PLENTY OF INJECTOR AND FUEL FOR YOUR SIZE MOTOR.
Rick thanks for offering to help. I will talk to my mech and ask him to call you if thats ok...I think he may better understand your recs. He is at Northshore HD here outside New Orleans. His name is Robert. Right now he is trying to tune it with PC and youve seen those #s.Thanks.

Timing, What has he done with the timing? [ignition] There is pletty of fuel up to 200rwhp. I find it hard to beleave he would dump the R/T for lack of fuel, but he must have seen some strange numbers to do that. Your numbers are fair, not great, but OK. The D And D runs a very bad Baffle [IMHO] Great Pipe, Bad Baffle. You may have better luck taking the baffle out.
PS: I'm getting 156-158 RWHP and 107-108 FTlbs Torque with our 1430. Happy Dyno? Maybe, But the things just shread tires, shure are fun!

Chopper Steve emailed me yesterday and my 1430 motor has made it to the DYNO! :cheers: Yippie, I can hardly wait to get it back (especially since the bike had 4 miles on it when it left!). I also hope to get the numbers that Steve talks about here since that I why I choose his shop in the first place (and paid for his talents).

Steve, if you are reading this, please squeeze what you can out of it so I (we) can proudly post the Dyno sheets on this forum.

:popcorn

Here is first dyno run. No top. No filter. No stacks( I am not sure why he ran it this way). Overall pretty good except for low RPMs...too lean. I will put another 500mi on it and dyno it again. At low RPMs the lack of fuel is not particularly apparent to me when I ride it. At about 3K you really feel the engine kick in and then it just hauls a$$ after that. Torque still lagging behind. Any suggestions? :mrgr:

Here is first dyno run. No top. No filter. No stacks( I am not sure why he ran it this way). Overall pretty good except for low RPMs...too lean. I will put another 500mi on it and dyno it again. At low RPMs the lack of fuel is not particularly apparent to me when I ride it. At about 3K you really feel the engine kick in and then it just hauls a$$ after that. Torque still lagging behind. Any suggestions? :mrgr:
HOW ABOUT INSTALLING THE STACKS AND STRAPING THE REAR OF THE
BIKE TO GET RID OF THE ROLLER COASTER AND YOU'LL BE WHERE YOU
WANT.:2cents:

Here is first dyno run. No top. No filter. No stacks( I am not sure why he ran it this way). Overall pretty good except for low RPMs...too lean. I will put another 500mi on it and dyno it again. At low RPMs the lack of fuel is not particularly apparent to me when I ride it. At about 3K you really feel the engine kick in and then it just hauls a$$ after that. Torque still lagging behind. Any suggestions? :mrgr:
Who Dynoing it? :eek: Thats one UGLY RUN!!!!!!!!! :tmbsdow: Chopper Steve 'v-mod' is tunning that? :confused:

NO! Wheel slip or something very strange. Maybe smoothing is set to -5. But that sure is freaky!

lots of surges after 6K....yeah something looks off with the reading.
it is the same stock..no smooth table top there

Who Dynoing it? :eek: Thats one UGLY RUN!!!!!!!!! :tmbsdow: Chopper Steve 'v-mod' is tunning that? :confused:
NO NOT CHOPPER STEVE, NORTHSHORE H.D. AND I AGREE THAT IS UGLY
WHATS MORE UGLY,IMAGINE WHAT THE BIKE WAS DOING IF THE REAR
WAS JUMPING ON THE DYNO LIKE THE GRAPH.:hmm:

It almost looks like they might have the brake drum on, and forgot to take it off...lol....or as Rick said, the rear wheel is bouncing..its on both graphs.

It almost looks like they might have the brake drum on, and forgot to take it off...lol....or as Rick said, the rear wheel is bouncing..its on both graphs.
THE TECH TOLD HIM IT WAS BOUNCING YET DID'NT CORRECT IT.
DON'T KNOW HOW HE STAYED ON IT, MUSTA BEEN LIKE RIDING
A BUCKING HORSE.:hmm:

THE TECH TOLD HIM IT WAS BOUNCING YET DID'NT CORRECT IT.
DON'T KNOW HOW HE STAYED ON IT, MUSTA BEEN LIKE RIDING
A BUCKING HORSE.:hmm:
That Tech needs to fins a New Occupation! :bash: I'm by No way a Professional Bike Tuner,but I've spent my Fair Time in the Dyno room with Gil.I've had 250rwhp Bike Not have to Be strapped down"Gil Just put his Knee on the Seat" and it was very smooth Line.Now Gil does Smooth some of the Graph to 5 Like you said Rick,but thats Not gonna help That graph :eek: !

HOW ABOUT INSTALLING THE STACKS AND STRAPING THE REAR OF THE
BIKE TO GET RID OF THE ROLLER COASTER AND YOU'LL BE WHERE YOU
WANT.:2cents:
Now that's funny.

I am glad my dyno run is amusing to you guys :laugh:
I agree. It looks like someone going into cardiac arrest!
I am just thankfull that the bike is back together and actually running pretty good despite all of the problems we have had, but I must agree that experience is what counts. Its slim pickings as far as Vrod tuners/builders down here...but If I had to do it again, I would send the whole freakin bike..crate and all..to one of the guys who have experience doing BBs. We are trying to fix the lean spot at 2-3k. We will se if any more HP/TQ is to be had. :thumb:
I can tell you all this...It is night and day from a stock Vrod..seat of the pants!

Chopin, I mean no disrepect to your tech, I'm sure he is good and will get your bike working even better!
But you may have to be patient with the tuning<G> . {Pun intended Doc} Try not to confuse a lean spot with a lack of accelerator enrichment. If he is running without stack, toppless ect...You will always get that lean spot for a second or two.
Thanks: Steve

Chopin, I mean no disrepect to your tech, I'm sure he is good and will get your bike working even better!
But you may have to be patient with the tuning<G> . {Pun intended Doc} Try not to confuse a lean spot with a lack of accelerator enrichment. If he is running without stack, toppless ect...You will always get that lean spot for a second or two.
Thanks: Steve
No offense taken Choppersteve, I also think its funny. Techs like docs come in all varieties...good ones, average ones, and bad ones. He is at the lower end of the spectrum...but at least he is trying. As for my bike...we are 95% there...and I already love it! Much thanks to all for advice etc..This is a great forum! :thumb:

No offense taken Choppersteve, I also think its funny. Techs like docs come in all varieties...good ones, average ones, and bad ones. He is at the lower end of the spectrum...but at least he is trying. As for my bike...we are 95% there...and I already love it! Much thanks to all for advice etc..This is a great forum! :thumb:
chopin,
I commend you on Your Positive Attitude! :thumb: Hang in there and I'm sure Your Tech will get things figured out! :thumb: :kaz:

what are your #s up to?

what are your #s up to?
Hey Jason. My last dyno was 140/84. BUT the rear wheel was a bouncing, I had no stacks, and I was running lean down low and rich up top. SO Getting mapped "tweaked". Will dyno with stacks and straps ON after a few more miles. Bike runs great though. Get your scanner yet??

chopin,
I commend you on Your Positive Attitude! :thumb: Hang in there and I'm sure Your Tech will get things figured out! :thumb: :kaz:
ALL RIGHT I'VE HAD ENOUGH,CHOPIN TELL THEM WHO IS MAPPING THE BIKE
PLEASE,AS YOUR TECH IS'NT GETTING CREDIT FOR TUNING YOUR BIKE.
AND ON THE NEXT DYNO RUNS HAVE HIM SIT ON IT OR LEAN ON IT.
SO IT DOSENT BOUNCE.:sinister:

ALL RIGHT I'VE HAD ENOUGH,CHOPIN TELL THEM WHO IS MAPPING THE BIKE
PLEASE,AS YOUR TECH IS'NT GETTING CREDIT FOR TUNING YOUR BIKE.
AND ON THE NEXT DYNO RUNS HAVE HIM SIT ON IT OR LEAN ON IT.
SO IT DOSENT BOUNCE.:sinister:
:surrender Well I did not know wether you wanted me to share that info so I kept it on the Down Lo'(patient confidentiality and such) but... Rick...Ya da man...My bike would be running like shit if it was not for your help. Again it comes down to experience..ie..you have lots and my poor bastard tech here in New Orleans barely has any apparently. I just wished I lived closer to Idaho :ride: : Like I said this forum is awesome! And NO RICK DID NOT DYNO IT!!! :rofl2:

If I ever decide to do mine, it'll go straight to tilly in NC (a few hours away), I wouldn't trust the techs in GV to change the plugs w/o damaging something else.

Worst GV's done so far is when I took my new PM wheel in for rebalancing it.
First thing the tech does is pry the wheel weights off with a metal screwdriver, then he slipped - yup, pry marks and a big scratch on my new wheel.
So I very nicely bring this to the owner's attention. He apologizes and I leave thinking all's good.

Next week I show up with a new tire to mount it. They say they are busy and to come back in a couple hours - which I do.
When I return they say:
"We can no longer mount customer's wheels because last week our machine damaged a $1000 wheel and we had to pay for it."
I about blew my top right there. It was MY wheel and they DID NOT pay for it. Their machine didn't hurt it, it was the moron tech with a screwdriver. Did they really have to waste another hour and a half of my time driving back and forth?

Every single time I've let them work on it, they return it filthy, greasy, fingerprints all over and without fail I have to come back 2-3 times to get it done right.

They won't touch my bike again.

GV HD has a very nice facility, but their service sux, their prices are high and their attitude is that we should be thankful they let us spend our money there. I'm not the only one who says so either. Just about everyone says the same thing.

what kind of work do they do? i talked with neil taylor last week and he sent me a map for my set-up-it runs better, but there is still a dead spot when you crack it at crusin. does anyone know if they do any dynotuning on the weekend? i read on their site that they are open on sat and sun. i want to try get her done before myrtle. i can be there in about 3 hours.

:ride:

I do believe tilley is one of the big boys when it comes to HD performance. I've never been there, but they have been reccomonded by several different sources, including Zipper's.

what kind of work do they do? i talked with neil taylor last week and he sent me a map for my set-up-it runs better, but there is still a dead spot when you crack it at crusin. does anyone know if they do any dynotuning on the weekend? i read on their site that they are open on sat and sun. i want to try get her done before myrtle. i can be there in about 3 hours.

:ride:
Been to Tilleys, great shop, very helpful, and they know what they'r doing when it comes to BB.
I checked to get mine on their dyno and they said the bike has to stay about 1 week. I asked why and they said that is what it takes to get tuned in... my understanding is that they will put some road miles on the bike as well. I am about 3 hours away and did not want to leave the bike there that long so I took it to Roanoke, VA HD. Not real happy with the tune there, still have a pretty good flat spot around 4500rpms.
This all happened in the fall of last year. I do not know if the 1 week deal still stands, you may want to give them a call to see.

Thats what I know about Tilley's, I hope it was of some help. :2cents:
Wes

I do believe tilley is one of the big boys when it comes to HD performance. I've never been there, but they have been reccomonded by several different sources, including Zipper's.
Well I am not sure how much the guys answering the phone at zippers really know...If you press them for details you will see what I mean. They do a good sell though.

Been to Tilleys, great shop, very helpful, and they know what they'r doing when it comes to BB.
I checked to get mine on their dyno and they said the bike has to stay about 1 week. I asked why and they said that is what it takes to get tuned in... my understanding is that they will put some road miles on the bike as well. I am about 3 hours away and did not want to leave the bike there that long so I took it to Roanoke, VA HD. Not real happy with the tune there, still have a pretty good flat spot around 4500rpms.
This all happened in the fall of last year. I do not know if the 1 week deal still stands, you may want to give them a call to see.

Thats what I know about Tilley's, I hope it was of some help. :2cents:
Wes
Gil has my custom RT Programs done in a day or Less! :goof:

I do believe tilley is one of the big boys when it comes to HD performance. I've never been there, but they have been reccomonded by several different sources, including Zipper's.
THEY DON'T GET ANY BIGGER THAN TILLEY AND EAGLE H.D.! (FOR THE VROD.)
HALES HAS A VERY GOOD PERFORMANCE SHOP ALSO.AND DONT FORGET
CYCLE RAMA. FUEL INJECTION PERFORMANCE TUNING IS NEW TO THE H.D.
TECH SO GIVE THEM SOME TIME TO CATCH UP, BUT LIKE ANYTHING YOU'LL
HAVE GOOD TUNERS AND GREAT TUNERS AND SOME THAT SHOULD'NT TOUCH
A COMPUTER, TIME WILL WEED THEM OUT.:mrgr:

Maybe we should start a "Good dealer OR stealer" forum, sorted by state.

It's pretty painful having to figure it out the hard way.


Thanks for the confirm on Tilley. I'll try them next time I need service.

You mean like this?: http://stealer-dealer.com/

Tilley's:

You won't be sorry if you do go there. It's the home of Don Tilley and Tripp Nobles the AHDRA Vrod class winner for the past 2 years and the class leader this year. (Gainesville)

Virtually ALL of the people there are TOP NOTCH!! and know their business regarding "V-Rods and Mods" including big bores and other performance issues. They have built at least 3 dozen Big Bores at this pooint and a number of the drag bike motors that are competing on the AHDRA race circuit today.

OF course Steve at V-Mod and Paul Diener at Eagle HD are also on the "Good Guys" short list as well.

Good Luck

You mean like this?: http://stealer-dealer.com/
Now that's an intersting site

what kind of work do they do? i talked with neil taylor last week and he sent me a map for my set-up-it runs better, but there is still a dead spot when you crack it at crusin. does anyone know if they do any dynotuning on the weekend? i read on their site that they are open on sat and sun. i want to try get her done before myrtle. i can be there in about 3 hours.

:ride:
Any update Jason??Does Tilleys still have your bike. I have been riding mine. Runs really strong. Instant throttle response, revs up so fast it aint funny...trying to put my shift light on...very fast and Very Loud...but I wear my earplugs. Have put 500 miles since I got it back 3 weeks ago. Plan on putting a few more then I will redyno, but I get the feeling there wont be much to do. It has a very good map ( how bout that Rick!) :plause:)

HERES THE LAST PULLS ON THE 500 MILE BREAKIN MAP. NOW I KNOW WHY IN
ANY GEAR YOUR SNAP THE THROTLE AND THE 200 AVON TRYS TO BECOME A
FRONT! ANOTHER 500 AND WE'LL GET AFTER IT. :thumb:

HERES THE LAST PULLS ON THE 500 MILE BREAKIN MAP. NOW I KNOW WHY IN
ANY GEAR YOUR SNAP THE THROTLE AND THE 200 AVON TRYS TO BECOME A
FRONT! ANOTHER 500 AND WE'LL GET AFTER IT. :thumb:
You use that thing on the street???
I knew I shoulda stroked that baby :laugh:
Rick...Great numbers man!
Mine is getting on the Dyno as we speak.....I will post the #ss for you alls critique.

Man, those are some really nice numbers, torque curve is real flat all the way through. Interesting how if you got the AFR above 13.0 or 13.1 you lost power. AFR map looks pretty good now, but could be tweaked a bit here and there.

Mike

Excellent #'s Rick. Looks like it is tuned about as perfect as you're gonna get.

Now Rick post the real set... I know your numbers are better... those numbers are good but you probably have much better. Don't hold back! Donald :thumb: :thumb:

Now Rick post the real set... I know your numbers are better... those numbers are good but you probably have much better. Don't hold back! Donald :thumb: :thumb:

THAT IS THE REAL SET,ONE THING YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS
WHERE IAM LOCATED AND THE ELEVATION.2700 FT UNCORRECTED. ALSO
THIS IS MY STREET BIKE THAT SO FAR HAS COST ME OVER $30,000.00
AND I'AM FOOTING THE BILL.I TOOK THE COMBO I RAN LAST YEAR UPGRADED
AND AT THE TIME OF REASSEMBLE GRABBED OUR RACING FALICON BILLET
CRANK AND PUT IT IN THE MOTOR TO COMPARE THE DIFF. AND TEST THE
LIFE SPAN. NOW LETS ADDRESS WHAT SOME HERE SAY IS A PERFECT TUNE
ITS BEEN ON THE DYNO TWICE 10 MINS TOTAL FAR FROM THE NORMAL
5 TO 7 HOUR TUNING SESSION.SURE WE HAVE MAPS THAT GET IT CLOSE
BUT NOT PERFECT UNTILL YOU MAP THE ENTIRE RANGE.MY GOAL WITH THIS
COMBO OF PARTS ON OUR DYNO IS 158 H.P. 105 LBS TORQ. AT SEA LEVEL
IT WOULD HIT 165 H. P. EASILY. AND REMEMBER ADD 35 H.P. TO MY FINAL
NUMBER,CAUSE I LOVE THE NOS BOTTLE!

HERES THE LAST PULLS ON THE 500 MILE BREAKIN MAP. NOW I KNOW WHY IN
ANY GEAR YOUR SNAP THE THROTLE AND THE 200 AVON TRYS TO BECOME A
FRONT! ANOTHER 500 AND WE'LL GET AFTER IT. :thumb:


Very impressive. Somebody else knows how to tune properly.

THAT IS THE REAL SET,ONE THING YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS
WHERE IAM LOCATED AND THE ELEVATION.2700 FT UNCORRECTED. ALSO
THIS IS MY STREET BIKE THAT SO FAR HAS COST ME OVER $30,000.00
AND I'AM FOOTING THE BILL.I TOOK THE COMBO I RAN LAST YEAR UPGRADED
AND AT THE TIME OF REASSEMBLE GRABBED OUR RACING FALICON BILLET
CRANK AND PUT IT IN THE MOTOR TO COMPARE THE DIFF. AND TEST THE
LIFE SPAN. NOW LETS ADDRESS WHAT SOME HERE SAY IS A PERFECT TUNE
ITS BEEN ON THE DYNO TWICE 10 MINS TOTAL FAR FROM THE NORMAL
5 TO 7 HOUR TUNING SESSION.SURE WE HAVE MAPS THAT GET IT CLOSE
BUT NOT PERFECT UNTILL YOU MAP THE ENTIRE RANGE.MY GOAL WITH THIS
COMBO OF PARTS ON OUR DYNO IS 158 H.P. 105 LBS TORQ. AT SEA LEVEL
IT WOULD HIT 165 H. P. EASILY. AND REMEMBER ADD 35 H.P. TO MY FINAL
NUMBER,CAUSE I LOVE THE NOS BOTTLE!
Rick; now that sounds very reasonable. Are you planning on putting it through the traps any or just street only? You have to love the torque curve; lol; not much of one, torque all the way through. And I hear ya about footing the bill... sometimes almost makes me feel sorry for Kaz....NOT! He can always just go do a massage and get another bike. LOL Donald

Rick; now that sounds very reasonable. Are you planning on putting it through the traps any or just street only? You have to love the torque curve; lol; not much of one, torque all the way through. And I hear ya about footing the bill... sometimes almost makes me feel sorry for Kaz....NOT! He can always just go do a massage and get another bike. LOL Donald
I PLAN ON RACING IN THE REST OF THE STREET BIKE SERIES AT OUR TRACK.
ALSO PLAN ON MAKING A FEW PASSES IN SEATLE OR WOODBURN, BOTH TRACKS ARE FAST. I'D LIKE TO RUN TEN O'S WITH ABELT DRIVE.OH YA HEY
KEVIN GOT ON THE SCALE LAST NIGHT AND WHATA KNOW 198 LBS.LETS SEE
780 LBS,152 H.P.(ASSUMING I CAN GET IT THE GROUND) SHOULD DO 10.03@138MPH.

Rick what crank did you put in the 1/4 or 1/2

Rick what crank did you put in the 1/4 or 1/2
1/4 NOW PLAN ON 1/2 IN THE FALL. :cool:

Very impressive. Somebody else knows how to tune properly.

YES HE DOES HIS NAME IS RYAN YOST AND DOES ALL OF OUR
FUEL INJECTED TUNING.WE'VE NEVER HAD CUSTOMER OR MECH. ISSUES RELATED TO TUNING.VERY SHARP TECH. :cool:

Rick:

You guys oughtta be proud of those results!!

In fact I think YOU have just won the "Worlds Fastest Street Legal V-Rod title from Kaz and should move to have it transferred to your Avatar.

REGARDS

Rick:

You guys oughtta be proud of those results!!

In fact I think YOU have just won the "Worlds Fastest Street Legal V-Rod title from Kaz and should move to have it transferred to your Avatar.

REGARDS
Actually by the rules I think "UPSMAN" Leads the competition! I am sure Kaz has probably broken down going faster than anyone else! :rofl2:

Rick:

You guys oughtta be proud of those results!!

In fact I think YOU have just won the "Worlds Fastest Street Legal V-Rod title from Kaz and should move to have it transferred to your Avatar.

REGARDS
**** you ass hole!!!!!!!!!!! :alien:

Kaz...say what you really feel!

:heart:

Kaz...say what you really feel!
I'd say he's a jealous asshole that has Nothing better to do then to swing on my Jock! :wazzup: BUB International Motorcycle Speed Trials September 5-9 show Me and the rest of the World just how Fast you can go! :deal: Everyone and anyone in the Top Speed World will be there for The Title and The Money! :sinister:

KAZ:

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT YOU SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL WHO YOU START CALLING FOUL NAMES!! Some people won't tolerate it !!!

You have NEVER BEEN ABLE TO COME UP with ANY numbers that others can use to match your SELF CLAIMED TITLE!!!

In ANY discussion that comes up, you either just broke the bike and can't show up or you change the "Ride" that made the results.

WHY didn't you show up at the Las Vegas shoot out and prove your point --because you were too busy???? You have been asked and challenged by several racers in this forum to show up for big bucks and do your thing.

YOU AND I BOTH know who offered you a match race for $20k and you turned them down.

As far as you being close friends with some of the more notible racers, my understanding from talking with them personally is that they don't consider you a friend AT ALL !!!

EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE YOU RACE YOUR BIKE(S) AND WIN SOME RACES INSTEAD OF RUNNING YOUR MOUTH AND CRYING ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY HARLEY, ONE OF THE HARD WORKING VENDORS THAT HAVE WORKED ON YOUR BIKES OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

My suggestion-- take some of the money you invested in a few of the bikes and GET SOME PROFESSIONAL THERAPY!! ANYBODY that has 8,446 responses on ANY forum ( and this isn't the only one you visit) REALLY NEEDS TO GET A LIFE!!!

I look forward to seeing YOU RACE --your bikes NOT your mouth.

REGARDS

KAZ:

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT YOU SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL WHO YOU START CALLING FOUL NAMES!! Some people won't tolerate it !!!

You have NEVER BEEN ABLE TO COME UP with ANY numbers that others can use to match your SELF CLAIMED TITLE!!!

In ANY discussion that comes up, you either just broke the bike and can't show up or you change the "Ride" that made the results.

WHY didn't you show up at the Las Vegas shoot out and prove your point --because you were too busy???? You have been asked and challenged by several racers in this forum to show up for big bucks and do your thing.

YOU AND I BOTH know who offered you a match race for $20k and you turned them down.

As far as you being close friends with some of the more notible racers, my understanding from talking with them personally is that they don't consider you a friend AT ALL !!!

EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE YOU RACE YOUR BIKE(S) AND WIN SOME RACES INSTEAD OF RUNNING YOUR MOUTH AND CRYING ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY HARLEY, ONE OF THE HARD WORKING VENDORS THAT HAVE WORKED ON YOUR BIKES OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

My suggestion-- take some of the money you invested in a few of the bikes and GET SOME PROFESSIONAL THERAPY!! ANYBODY that has 8,446 responses on ANY forum ( and this isn't the only one you visit) REALLY NEEDS TO GET A LIFE!!!

I look forward to seeing YOU RACE --your bikes NOT your mouth.

REGARDS

YOU ARE so FULLOFSHIT Your Eyes are Brown :laugh: !Nobody has Offered me a Race for Cash and Nobody Challenged me to a Race in Vegas :slap: that"I was to Busy for? :rolleyes:Where dose your wanna b self come up with this garbage?"You want personal adresses ,phone numbers,cell and home" of My So Call Not Friends :laugh: !Your The Biggest WANNA" B "I have Run into in a LONG TIME and Your Gonna EAT YOUR WORDS :angeldev: . You got the nerve to tell me to get some therapy ,YOUR THE ONE WITH THE LITTLE DICK THAT NEEDS THE THERAPY :alien: You don't even Ride Your own Bike LOOSER! :goof:

THIS THREAD IS ON DYNO SHEETS ON BIG BORES. :twisted:
If anyone wants to beat each other up, TAKE IT TO THE BAR.
I love a good fight, but there is a place on the forum for members to fight it out. IT IS IN THE BAR. All members that read this PLEASE understand that many of our members are fed up with all of the BULL SH_T that many of our threads turn into. TAKE THE BULL SH_T TO THE BAR.

Most Respectfully
Frank

THIS THREAD IS ON DYNO SHEETS ON BIG BORES. :twisted:
If anyone wants to beat each other up, TAKE IT TO THE BAR.
I love a good fight, but there is a place on the forum for members to fight it out. IT IS IN THE BAR. All members that read this PLEASE understand that many of our members are fed up with all of the BULL SH_T that many of our threads turn into. TAKE THE BULL SH_T TO THE BAR.

Most Respectfully
Frank
:stupid: I'm Sorry Frank,but he Drew First Blood! :angeldev:

:stupid: I'm Sorry Frank,but he Drew First Blood! :angeldev:


Kaz,

Next time, invite him to the bar and put on the gloves. That goes for everyone.

"Thanks"
Frank

o m g this place cracks me up

Kaz,

Next time, invite him to the bar and put on the gloves. That goes for everyone.

"Thanks"
Frank
I'm doing that Right Now Sir! :twisted:

It seems that most are doing the 1/4 in. stroke for the street...Why not the 1/2 in. stroke?

1500 mile break in done. Here are the numbers: The one with the Top ON is with filteron (not snorkel) The other one is just with stacks and no filter on.
Comments?? Does the AF ratio change make sense with and then without the filter??

1500 mile break in done. Here are the numbers: The one with the Top ON is with filteron (not snorkel) The other one is just with stacks and no filter on.
Comments?? Does the AF ratio change make sense with and then without the filter??
THEY LOOK BACKWARDS TO ME HAVE YOU HAD THE MAP DIALED IN YET?
I KNOW YOU TOLD ME BEFORE,WHICH CAM GRIND FROM WEB ARE YOU
RUNNING? ARE YOUR STACKS 58 MM ?

1500 mile break in done. Here are the numbers: The one with the Top ON is with filteron (not snorkel) The other one is just with stacks and no filter on.
Comments?? Does the AF ratio change make sense with and then without the filter??
Thats what I thought too. You would think without the filter would make it leaner.
Grind 791/677
58 mm stacks....
I dont get it. Perhaps I should get another dyno somewhere else??
I am not sure what you mean by getting the map dialed in..can you explain.

Thats what I thought too. You would think without the filter would make it leaner.
Grind 791/677
58 mm stacks....
I dont get it. Perhaps I should get another dyno somewhere else??
I am not sure what you mean by getting the map dialed in..can you explain.
MAYBE K AND N'S CLAIM TO MOVING AIR STRAIGHTER WITH THEN WITH OUT
HOLDS SOME WATER IN THIS CASE.(NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN IT.)

Here is latest dyno done today
ARRGGGHHH!

is that your final dyno-how many miles? i have never gotten a scanner as soon as i do i will post mine for ya. :cheers:

is that your final dyno-how many miles? i have never gotten a scanner as soon as i do i will post mine for ya. :cheers:
About 2k miles since BB. She runs very good.

MAYBE K AND N'S CLAIM TO MOVING AIR STRAIGHTER WITH THEN WITH OUT
HOLDS SOME WATER IN THIS CASE.(NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN IT.)
Rick: I have found more power with filter/lid on rather than just with the open stacks. I think it has something to do with the way it controls airflow inside filter area and the long/front stack pulsing off the lid.

Dyno'd my new Race Bike on Normal GAS it made 163/104 Hoping to get a new Tune on it "Made175 on Race Gas :sinister: " but Gil was worried about a Very Bad Vibration on the Handle Bars so Bad hew Could Not Hold On? :confused: Now I felt the Forks and it's didn't seem that Bad but I had Gloves on.He has Dyno'd!1000's of Bikes so I'm a LITTLE WORRIED!The 1/2in Stroke Motor Broke on the 4 Pass"went 9.26 on the 3rd" so this is a 1/4in stroke motor with some Pretty Good stuff in it!163/104 1/4 stroke do they Vibrate???????:popcorn

Dyno'd my new Race Bike on Normal GAS it made 163/104 Hoping to get a new Tune on it "Made175 on Race Gas :sinister: " but Gil was worried about a Very Bad Vibration on the Handle Bars so Bad hew Could Not Hold On? :confused: Now I felt the Forks and it's didn't seem that Bad but I had Gloves on.He has Dyno'd!1000's of Bikes so I'm a LITTLE WORRIED!The 1/2in Stroke Motor Broke on the 4 Pass"went 9.26 on the 3rd" so this is a 1/4in stroke motor with some Pretty Good stuff in it!163/104 1/4 stroke do they Vibrate???????:popcorn


Kaz,

Is it a full circle crank?

Frank

Dyno'd my new Race Bike on Normal GAS it made 163/104 Hoping to get a new Tune on it "Made175 on Race Gas :sinister: " but Gil was worried about a Very Bad Vibration on the Handle Bars so Bad hew Could Not Hold On? :confused: Now I felt the Forks and it's didn't seem that Bad but I had Gloves on.He has Dyno'd!1000's of Bikes so I'm a LITTLE WORRIED!The 1/2in Stroke Motor Broke on the 4 Pass"went 9.26 on the 3rd" so this is a 1/4in stroke motor with some Pretty Good stuff in it!163/104 1/4 stroke do they Vibrate???????:popcorn
.
KAZ, DID THEY REMOVE THE COUNTER BALANCER? THE NUMBERS ARE THE
SAME AS OURS AT CORRECTED ALT. OUR CORRECTED ALT ARE THE SAME.
YOU FORGET MY NUMBER ALLREADY!

.
KAZ, DID THEY REMOVE THE COUNTER BALANCER? THE NUMBERS ARE THE
SAME AS OURS AT CORRECTED ALT. OUR CORRECTED ALT ARE THE SAME.
YOU FORGET MY NUMBER ALLREADY!
YES/YES I'N NEW!!! :hidesbeh:

Rick:

You guys oughtta be proud of those results!!

In fact I think YOU have just won the "Worlds Fastest Street Legal V-Rod title from Kaz and should move to have it transferred to your Avatar.

REGARDS
:tmbsdow: WHERE ARE YOU MAN????????? :bat The BAR is Full and theres a ROUND of SHOT'S waitin for ya!!! :diablo:

It seems that most are doing the 1/4 in. stroke for the street...Why not the 1/2 in. stroke? For the street several factors. We had Paul Diener in chat a few weeks ago and dependability on the cranks was questioned. I know of no one that has any problems with the 1/4 stroke but talking to Paul in chat he said he had seen a few problems with the 1/2" stroke. Although I don't think it was many and it was with a stock crank stroked. I believe the full circle crank is dependable but that bumps the price up considerably. If your not a full time racer. The extra cost doesn't make sense to me. Others were in chat including Max when this was discussed. Donald

I am glad to see Kaz has moved to the Big Bore crowd! :thumb: I hope this bike holds up to his punishment. Donald

I am glad to see Kaz has moved to the Big Bore crowd! :thumb: I hope this bike holds up to his punishment. Donald
Donald from what I'm finding out ,the High Horse Power Big Bores Die just as Fast as my Turbo Ones do!!!!!!!! :eek: Getting Very Spirtual Lately and all I can do is PRAY!!!!! :notworth: ;) :kaz:

... from what I'm finding out ,the High Horse Power Big Bores Die just as Fast as my Turbo Ones do...
I suspect the problem is more closely tied to the nut behind the wheel.

I suspect the problem is more closely tied to the nut behind the wheel.
If it were only that EASY! :slap: You think I break these on purpose? :stilpoke: Life on the Edge is just that! ;)

For the street several factors. We had Paul Diener in chat a few weeks ago and dependability on the cranks was questioned. I know of no one that has any problems with the 1/4 stroke but talking to Paul in chat he said he had seen a few problems with the 1/2" stroke. Although I don't think it was many and it was with a stock crank stroked. I believe the full circle crank is dependable but that bumps the price up considerably. If your not a full time racer. The extra cost doesn't make sense to me. Others were in chat including Max when this was discussed. Donald
EITHER YOU MISS UNDERSTOOD OR PAUL IS GETTING TO OLD THE FAILURES
HE INCOUNTERED THAT I KNOW OF WHERE ON THE 1/4 STROKE STOCK CRANKS AS HE CALLED TO LET ME KNOW TO WATCH AND BEAWARE OF THE PROBLEM. THEY WHERE CRACKING ON THE END OF THE ROD JOURNELS. I HAVE RUN 3 WITHOUT A PROBLEM YET. BECAUSE I INTEND TO KEEP MINE FOR A LONG TIME I OPTED FOR THE FULL CIRCLE CRANK, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE DESIGN IS SUPERIOR TO THE PORK CHOP. :2cents:

Had biked tuned once more here. Tech spent hours on the thing and the results as far as rideability were well worth it. Bike runs much much better....found that the bike is not getting enough air however and this is likely the reason why I have been unable to breake the 140/ 90 mark. At 1 atm she runs .9 throughout the midrange and only in the top end (about 7.5k) will whe suck in air at 1 atm. I originally had the TB and Stacks bored out. These were placed on the stock TB rubber boots. Now there is a lip of rubber between the TB and Boots that I need bored out. I will do this soon...Question...Everyone with a BB and Bored out TB has bored out boots?? Does the Head side of the boot need boring out??How easy is it to do it?? Can I expect any significant improvements??

Paul is still doing some work but this is pretty close to where it will end up without the nitrous. Jeff

Paul is still doing some work but this is pretty close to where it will end up without the nitrous. Jeff
Now those are some serious numbers. I assume with that kind of torque your running chain drive and lockout clutch?

Now those are some serious numbers. I assume with that kind of torque your running chain drive and lockout clutch?

Nope we're running the stock belt and a modified clutch that is totally stock appearing and "stock" from a feel and operational standpoint as well. Jeff

Paul is still doing some work but this is pretty close to where it will end up without the nitrous. Jeff


You will have to change your handel to Bad EST Rod :rolleyes:

Paul is still doing some work but this is pretty close to where it will end up without the nitrous. Jeff
NICE DYNO NUMBERS NOW THAT SHOULD PUT YOU IN THE 9'S. SAME AS
MINE ON THE BOTTLE AT ALTITUDE.(AND I LOVE THE APPEARS STOCK STUFF.)
HOW MANY ACTUAL STREET MILES DOES YOUR BIG BORE HAVE? I HAVE INCOUNTERED A LOT OF LITTLE QUIRKS WITH RIDING A STROKER HARD ON THE
STREET, I JUST HIT 2500 MILES ON MINE. OH YA AND NOBODY LIKES TO RIDE WITH I MEAN BEHIND ME :D AND JEFF WHAT SIZE MOTOR IS THAT?

NICE DYNO NUMBERS NOW THAT SHOULD PUT YOU IN THE 9'S. SAME AS
MINE ON THE BOTTLE AT ALTITUDE.(AND I LOVE THE APPEARS STOCK STUFF.)
HOW MANY ACTUAL STREET MILES DOES YOUR BIG BORE HAVE? I HAVE INCOUNTERED A LOT OF LITTLE QUIRKS WITH RIDING A STROKER HARD ON THE
STREET, I JUST HIT 2500 MILES ON MINE. OH YA AND NOBODY LIKES TO RIDE WITH I MEAN BEHIND ME :D AND JEFF WHAT SIZE MOTOR IS THAT?

I only had about 1000 miles between the first build and the second but it ran without a glitch. I sent it back in to get even faster. The biggest changes this time around are 17" rims & tires, new exhausts (2 different set ups) and soon the nitrous. The nitrous is all installed it has just not been tested yet. I have no street time on the second build because I don't have it back yet. The motor is a 1550. Jeff

I only had about 1000 miles between the first build and the second but it ran without a glitch. I sent it back in to get even faster. The biggest changes this time around are 17" rims & tires, new exhausts (2 different set ups) and soon the nitrous. The nitrous is all installed it has just not been tested yet. I have no street time on the second build because I don't have it back yet. The motor is a 1550. Jeff
Rick; Might I ask what quirks you speak of? I have over 4,000 miles on mine since I got it back and nothing I know of as far as quirks. Installing an electric shift and shift light July 1st at Cycle Connections. Might run into some quirks after that. Donald

Rick; Might I ask what quirks you speak of? I have over 4,000 miles on mine since I got it back and nothing I know of as far as quirks. Installing an electric shift and shift light July 1st at Cycle Connections. Might run into some quirks after that. Donald

Hey OK, just an FYI my electric shifter and shift light went in during my first build and it worked flawlessly. I have to admit I still frequently shifted with my foot but mostly because I felt too “lazy" just pushing the button unless I was running the bike hard. Jeff

Hey OK, just an FYI my electric shifter and shift light went in during my first build and it worked flawlessly. I have to admit I still frequently shifted with my foot but mostly because I felt too “lazy" just pushing the button unless I was running the bike hard. Jeff
Jeff; That's good to know. I think Rob and Mike Lewis feel the same way. Once it is setup, seems to work pretty well. I saw theirs last weekend and that is what made me decide to go that route. Donald

I only had about 1000 miles between the first build and the second but it ran without a glitch. I sent it back in to get even faster. The biggest changes this time around are 17" rims & tires, new exhausts (2 different set ups) and soon the nitrous. The nitrous is all installed it has just not been tested yet. I have no street time on the second build because I don't have it back yet. The motor is a 1550. Jeff
COOL JEFF,THE QUIRKS I SPOKE OF MAINLY HAVE TO DO WITH THE CAM PROFILE I'AM RUNNING COMBINED WITH BORED THROTLE BODYS THE CAM OVER LAP AND THE THROTLE POSITION SENSOR.DID'NT PAUL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A EXTENDED SWING ARM THAT APPEARS STOCK?
AS FAR AS THE ELEC. SHIFTER I'AM SURE I WAS THE FIRST TO RUN ONE TWO YEARS AGO. I PREFER THE ELEC OVER AIR AND HAVE MY CHROME SWING ARM AS A AIR TANK AND AN MPS ON BOARD COMPRESSOR.FOR MUCH LESS MONEY THAN THE ELEC.UNIT AND MUCH QUICKER.TAKES 1/2 THE KILL TIME TO COMPLETE THE SHIFT.BE INTERESTING ON THE TRACK WITH NOS TO SEE IF THE BELT WILL HOLD IF AND WHEN IT HOOKS.
THE FIFTEEN FIFTY ENGINE SIZE EXPLAINS THE HIGH TORQ.NUMBER STROKE
IS A WONDERFULL THING.

Rick, we are still using a stock swing arm although I have heard Paul talk about the mysterious stock “appearing” extended swing arm (and you know I want one). The belt has been holding up fine so far and Paul does not anticipate a problem but as we will be breaking out the nitrous soon I guess we’re about to find out!!! Jeff

Decided To Put Nos Back On,found Out Though The Clutch Wont Hold That Power Very Long.(peaks And Drops) So On Goes A Stock Appearing One And I'll Try Again.

Decided To Put Nos Back On,found Out Though The Clutch Wont Hold That Power Very Long.(peaks And Drops) So On Goes A Stock Appearing One And I'll Try Again.
Rick: Awsome numbers mate :notworth: Was this with the stock clutch?

Great balls of fire! We got us a new Dyno King now, 213 hp, now that is some serious steam. Kaz dreams at night about such numbers......Rick, you the man. Hope your taking your scoot to FL, for the great VROD drag shootout.

Rick those are the best hp & torque #'s todate, is this a 1/4 stroke motor? Are you running a lock up clutch ? if so does this fit under the stock clutch cover ?

Looks like I need to work more OT this is a got to have !!!!!!

Rick: Awsome numbers mate :notworth: Was this with the stock clutch?
BARRNETT EXTRA PLATE AND 85 LB SPRINGS.

Rick those are the best hp & torque #'s todate, is this a 1/4 stroke motor? Are you running a lock up clutch ? if so does this fit under the stock clutch cover ?

Looks like I need to work more OT this is a got to have !!!!!!

BIG BORE 1/4 STROKE BARNETT EXTRA PLATE CLUTCH 85LB SPRINGS.80 H.P.
SHOT OF NOS.

153/104 for my 1430 at the rear wheel.

Heres Jeffs Bad Rod On Nos(30 H.p.)shot. We'll Save The Bigger Shots For K.C.

Heres Jeffs Bad Rod On Nos(30 H.p.)shot. We'll Save The Bigger Shots For K.C.
Gotta post the new one Rick :thumb:

Gotta post the new one Rick :thumb:

Here you go. As you can see the tire spun on one run. Jeff

I would like to add, that is not a happy dyno.I lost 8 HP from my local dyno to the one Gails is using.

Hope it's legible.

I'd say he's a jealous asshole that has Nothing better to do then to swing on my Jock! :wazzup: BUB International Motorcycle Speed Trials September 5-9 show Me and the rest of the World just how Fast you can go! :deal: Everyone and anyone in the Top Speed World will be there for The Title and The Money! :sinister:
Wow what a FUN THREAD "Back on Page 6:blahblah: "GUESS I WASN'T ALL TALK AFTER ALL:kaz: !

Heres Jeffs Bad Rod On Nos(30 H.p.)shot. We'll Save The Bigger Shots For K.C.

GUESS I WASNT EITHER !

GUESS I WASNT EITHER !
Ya you know as well as I do that Bike would not Last 10 seconds at Bonneville with that setup!It's a Bomb with a ten second Fuse:angeldev: that you only run a few seconds on it would:hitfan: !Bring Badrod 1,2 OR 3 to Bonneville at see what the Geat White Dyno SAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:guns

Ya you know as well as I do that Bike would not Last 10 seconds at Bonneville with that setup!It's a Bomb with a ten second Fuse:angeldev: that you only run a few seconds on it would:hitfan: !Bring Badrod 1,2 OR 3 to Bonneville at see what the Geat White Dyno SAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:guns


james,

You are the V Rod BOMB expert:cheers:

Frank

james,

You are the V Rod BOMB expert:cheers:

Frank
**** OFF FRANK:alien: !

**** OFF FRANK:alien: !


james,

:thumb: :rofl: :heart:

Frank

Ya you know as well as I do that Bike would not Last 10 seconds at Bonneville with that setup!It's a Bomb with a ten second Fuse:angeldev: that you only run a few seconds on it would:hitfan: !Bring Badrod 1,2 OR 3 to Bonneville at see what the Geat White Dyno SAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:guns
The only bomb Iv'e seen go off lately is the one that exploded on the dyno at Kansas City.:hmm:

james,

:thumb: :rofl: :heart:

Frank
FRANKLIN,
Get a clue and quit sucking Eagle Dick:sinister: !When your wanna be asss gets out on the Track and Does ANYTHING then You can Talk $hit:deal: Intill you have Done anything on Your V-rod You Can SUCKMYDICK:kaz: That goes for U2 Qwkrod:spit: You can say what you like,but I don't LIE:thumb: !

FRANKLIN,
Get a clue and quit sucking Eagle Dick:sinister: !When your wanna be asss gets out on the Track and Does ANYTHING then You can Talk $hit:deal: Intill you have Done anything on Your V-rod You Can SUCKMYDICK:james: That goes for U2 Qwkrod:spit: You can say what you like,but I don't LIE:thumb: !


James,

This was priceless at KC.:rofl2: :rofl: NOW THAT'S A BOMB.

Frank

:blahblah: :bash: :stooge: :whack: :popcorn :popcorn

:blahblah: :bash: :stooge: :whack: :popcorn :popcorn

Count me in, and grab a seat on the couch next to me and Rodney King!!!

Forum Members,

Sorry for stepping all over this thread. I just could not resist.

Frank

Off topic also, but did any forum members actually see Kaz make his run at the salt flats? Inquiring minds want to know.:eatme:

Count me in, and grab a seat on the couch next to me and Rodney King!!!

:stupid: Push over Cheatin...:popcorn

you guys scooch over....make room for me....

WHOA >> This couch is getting just a little crowded. Time for Rodney to get off. He seems to be free loading it..

Off topic also, but did any forum members actually see Kaz make his run at the salt flats? Inquiring minds want to know.:eatme:
Come on Porn King are you for Real?:whack:

Off topic also, but did any forum members actually see Kaz make his run at the salt flats? Inquiring minds want to know.:eatme:

I didn't have to see it to believe it! Kaz kicked ass on his V-Rod at the salt flats:biker:

What I have seen is Kaz hi-jack a few threads here and there...:stilpoke:

FRANKLIN,
Get a clue and quit sucking Eagle Dick:sinister: !When your wanna be asss gets out on the Track and Does ANYTHING then You can Talk $hit:deal: Intill you have Done anything on Your V-rod You Can SUCKMYDICK:kaz: That goes for U2 Qwkrod:spit: You can say what you like,but I don't LIE:thumb: !

Kaz, friendly posts like this go a long way to helping your cause, earning a sponsorship, or developing beneficial relationships with people who can help you in your quest. One day your praising Eagle/Paul/Jamie in a post, then couple days later, dogging them out for being backstabbers.

Kaz, friendly posts like this go a long way to helping your cause, earning a sponsorship, or developing beneficial relationships with people who can help you in your quest. One day your praising Eagle/Paul/Jamie in a post, then couple days later, dogging them out for being backstabbers.
I just called Paul to make sure he brings my 6 Pack this weekend:angeldev: !We had a Nice Little chat and Plan to continue that in Person this weekend:sinister: !

:stooge: :slap: :laugh: :rofl: :popcorn


I agree, almost as funny as watching "my name is Earl" on tuesday nights!

Maybe we should get back to the purpose of this thread. Here is my run at Palm beach HD with the afr. Not quite as high as at Eagle HD but still right where I expected it to be.

QWK ROD:

A SERIOUS question out of curiousity. What Happened to your AFR between 4,500k and 7,00k rpm's? It LOOKS like it was starved for air.

It's STILL a DAMNED GOOD run just curious.

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The AFR actually drops somewhat...meaning it was richening up, not leaning out.....that's just some very fine tuning that can be done if the time was available...but I would think it's better running a little fat than too lean.....plus it probably would only smooth out the power delivery a bit but wouldn't net any more peak HP....

QWK ROD:

A SERIOUS question out of curiousity. What Happened to your AFR between 4,500k and 7,00k rpm's? It LOOKS like it was starved for air.

It's STILL a DAMNED GOOD run just curious.

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The race tuner is very complex with a big motor and they spent a lot of time tuning and said that D&D pipe with my combo gave them fits. When you ride it on the street you wouldn't even know that rich spot existed. I suppose if I was willing to have them spend another day and a half they might get it out but it really isn't worth it as the upper rpm range is perfect and cruising is perfect so I am completely satisfied with the performance and the driveability.

I agree!!! It runs VERY WELL!! I was just curious.

We may see each other in the spring at Bike Wekk 06 if you come up with Jeff. I think he is planning to try again since the storms messed up you guys plans for Biketoberfest.

I'm up in Jax.

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