now this this bike needs wings. :kaz:

pretty awesome rance! what kind of bike is this?

Busa :)

rear sprocket has been changed making the speedo way off! :bs:

rear sprocket has been changed making the speedo way off! :bs:

:stupid: That should read kilometers per hour.

I would have to agree with Kaz on that. Pretty fast no doubt, but not that fast...

KAZ and I know how that feels on a V-Rod.

KAZ and I know how that feels on a V-Rod.

Speaking of which Rick, we've all been patiently waiting for your feedback on that subject. Having bought one myself I was hoping you would share your years of turbo experience with a detailed report on the Superkaz kit.

How did the fitting go? Have you got any numbers yet? etc, etc. :confused:

rear sprocket has been changed making the speedo way off! :bs:

Hmmm calling BS, comeon Kaz you know better then that. LOL, I am short on money this month, and would like to make some money the easy way. How much would you be willing to bet I can accelerate from zero to 220 mph in about 10 seconds and in under 1 mile on pavement? This is my own personal streetbike, we can use GPS or whatever method you prefer to verify it.
Richard :biker:

Speaking of which Rick, we've all been patiently waiting for your feedback on that subject. Having bought one myself I was hoping you would share your years of turbo experience with a detailed report on the Superkaz kit.

How did the fitting go? Have you got any numbers yet? etc, etc. :confused:
Quick update, sorry I've been swamped this week. I jsut got my oil leak fixed, it was the front sprocket, not in far enough. The preliminary results are awesome, the power is unbelievable after 4500 RPM, which is already the sweet spot of the bike. Since this week is the weekend of the Love Ride a popular event here in Southern California, no one had room on their dyno for my bike. I'll get some numbers in next week. Also the fitment is very good, as long as you have all the parts that are supposed to come with the kit, Richard :rofl: . The toughest part, is tapping the oil pan, Richard suggests using a 3/4 uni-bit which is perfect. Everything else was a piece of cake. Make sure all your oil lines are tight, thats all I can say.

Quick update, sorry I've been swamped this week. I jsut got my oil leak fixed, it was the front sprocket, not in far enough. The preliminary results are awesome, the power is unbelievable after 4500 RPM, which is already the sweet spot of the bike. Since this week is the weekend of the Love Ride a popular event here in Southern California, no one had room on their dyno for my bike. I'll get some numbers in next week. Also the fitment is very good, as long as you have all the parts that are supposed to come with the kit, Richard :rofl: . The toughest part, is tapping the oil pan, Richard suggests using a 3/4 uni-bit which is perfect. Everything else was a piece of cake. Make sure all your oil lines are tight, thats all I can say.

What's the idle & transition like?
How does she sound in comparison to the TT?

Maybe I am mistaking but at 100 miles per hour the lines go by alot fasteer. Looks more like 100 or so at top speed, when coming out of this 220 run the lines go by pretty slow compared to when I am going 130 on my V-Rod. Maybe not but just seems odd! 220? Common!

Hmmm calling BS, comeon Kaz you know better then that. LOL, I am short on money this month, and would like to make some money the easy way. How much would you be willing to bet I can accelerate from zero to 220 mph in about 10 seconds and in under 1 mile on pavement? This is my own personal streetbike, we can use GPS or whatever method you prefer to verify it.
Richard :biker:
and the front wheel wont touch the ground till 140.Yes Your 550rwhp Hayabusa will but I Gaurentee he was Not on one of Those!Now you went 0-183 in 8.25 second Richard so even Your Bike will be Tuff with the Gearing to Back door 40mph with you setup so Yes I'll bet you Double or Nothing on my Race Kit You can't go 0-220 in 10 seconds ! :eek: Now the 1 Mile is Pretty easy because it will take a Couple More seconds but it will be Fun Trying anyways! :twisted:

P.S When can I test Ride Your Bike for Bonneville! :thumb:

What's the idle & transition like?
How does she sound in comparison to the TT?
Idle is flawless, and the sound is quieter than the TT's. It's still quiet when your on the pipe but you hear the distinct whistle at idle. When it's on the pipe, or boosting it is the most incredible sound there is. It's music to my ears. When you shift gears and the boost slams back into the compressor wheel and gives you that sound it's heavenly. My personaly opinion is as I told Richard, it could use a blow off valve. It doesn't really need it at 6 psi but it will save the turbo over time. I experienced a slight tuning glitch today. At 130 MPH and 8000RPM the bike seemed to fall on its face. In CA we only have 91 Octane, Richards map was made for 93. I'll get some remapping done Tuesday, and we'll see what kind of power it's making. I've been chasing my tail trying to find the last oil leak.

BTW the early Busa's were capable of doing 202MPH in stock trim, it's very believable that a turbocharged Busa would be more than capable of exceeded 220MPH. I was informed how they limited the Busa's, there is quite a bunch of resources from many members around here.

rear sprocket has been changed making the speedo way off! :bs:


Count how many seconds it takes to get to like 150? 175? He should be racing stotts or someone. I agree something is not right. STILL too freekin fast! but not 220.

and the front wheel wont touch the ground till 140.Yes Your 550rwhp Hayabusa will but I Gaurentee he was Not on one of Those!Now you went 0-183 in 8.25 second Richard so even Your Bike will be Tuff with the Gearing to Back door 40mph with you setup so Yes I'll bet you Double or Nothing on my Race Kit You can't go 0-220 in 10 seconds ! :eek: Now the 1 Mile is Pretty easy because it will take a Couple More seconds but it will be Fun Trying anyways! :twisted:

P.S When can I test Ride Your Bike for Bonneville! :thumb:

I am actually building a 2nd bike for bonneville. if I do, you can ride it, I really am not too excited about riding a bike with the tire spinning for 3 or more miles above 200 mph
Richard

I am actually building a 2nd bike for bonneville. if I do, you can ride it, I really am not too excited about riding a bike with the tire spinning for 3 or more miles above 200 mph
Richard
Then I'm Your Man! :twisted: Remember Solid lead shot in the Swing arm and 40lbs of Lead on Each Side of the Swingarm.No Need to be Light weight.John and Hanks Bikes Range from 800-1200lbs with Rider! :eek: I'm setting up my new Trailer to Haul up to 6 Bikes and a Golf cart so I'll have THE ROOM FOR YA! :thumb:

There's no way that bike was doing 220 mph! The white line on the highway should've looked like one complete line. You can clearly count the line as he's running down the street. You can also see the turning lane in the median, that shouldn't have been possible. :bs:

:whack: Here's a link to hopefully solve the mass confusion regarding the 220 mph video. superstreetbike.com Go to page, click on "custom" bike... the two bikes are there. You can then click on "tech articles" and find more bikes that run over 200 mph. As far as the "white" lines being a continuous line at that speed... :blahblah: check out the nascar guys... they don't look like they're moving in excess of 200 mph either... film versus reality... :bash:

:thumb: Kaz....are we gonna see these numbers with your new turbo bike? :eek: :vrod:

Come on people, you're not paying attention here. The speedo stops SOLID at 220, but the tach keeps on going. The tach is at 10,000 when the speedo hits 220. The tach keeps going up to about 11,150. Unless there is perfect clutch slip at the "220mph", a simple calculator tells you the speedo would read about 245mph if it didn't hit the peg. So, it's not 220mph you should be arguing about, it's more like 245 mph. Rance, are you still sticking to your story?

Come on people, you're not paying attention here. The speedo stops SOLID at 220, but the tach keeps on going. The tach is at 10,000 when the speedo hits 220. The tach keeps going up to about 11,150. Unless there is perfect clutch slip at the "220mph", a simple calculator tells you the speedo would read about 245mph if it didn't hit the peg. So, it's not 220mph you should be arguing about, it's more like 245 mph. Rance, are you still sticking to your story?o.k.thats more like it 245 mph i am not sticking with any thing :thumb: .i just posted the clip to let every body see what power a turbo makes. :eek: :rofl2: now if he is really going 220 to 245 mph idon't know :blahblah: .i did not want to get every body up set.... :sad: so every body arguing about how fast the bike is going this is not why i posted it that's :bs:. but i do think it's funny the way people react about nothing and kaz you should be on my side you are selling them. :whack: :plause:

I don't know. Sometimes skepticism is reflexive. How about being skeptical of the skeptics! :confused:

All competitiveness aside, I think the guy is probably doing over 200 MPH. True the naked eye will blur at this speed but don't forget you're looking through a camera lens, and at a set frame rate. It would be pretty easy to rig a speedo, but it would also be pretty easy, and more of a thrill, to go film yourself topping out.

Even if I am wrong, I offer this:

If Joe Forum Member went out with his camera mounted to his 'busa and really did film himself at 200 MPH, and posted a clip on this site... I guarantee there would be people who would swear it was fake!

:stooge:

:surrender

I don't know. Sometimes skepticism is reflexive. How about being skeptical of the skeptics! :confused:

All competitiveness aside, I think the guy is probably doing over 200 MPH. True the naked eye will blur at this speed but don't forget you're looking through a camera lens, and at a set frame rate. It would be pretty easy to rig a speedo, but it would also be pretty easy, and more of a thrill, to go film yourself topping out.

Even if I am wrong, I offer this:

If Joe Forum Member went out with his camera mounted to his 'busa and really did film himself at 200 MPH, and posted a clip on this site... I guarantee there would be people who would swear it was fake!

:stooge:

:surrenderI DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE SAD IT ANY BETTER MYSELF. :thumb: :rofl2:

The NXT Busa is going 7.97 in the 1/4 at 184 +, so I guess it's really not that far fetched. You can gear one tall enough you cant hang on because of the wind resistance if you try. I find my self unable to enjoy a simple video, because we spend about 11 months thinking about , and trying new stuff on our own race bikes and we are ALWAYS analyzing our own stuff. Just bleeds over in life I guess. just didnt look right for some reason. I WOULD like to see it launch off the line in the 1/4... MAN wouldnt that be a hand full! WOWZA!

I sure didnt mean anything toward you by my own comments Rance. Sorry 'bout that.

I wish he would do that on the damn track though. Scares the S**t out of me thinking of riding like that on the street. I can barely get through town at 55 w/o someone pushing me out of my lane! he he he

The 4 cylinder world is a different place. I hope to have some test footage of our Zuk, before next year is over. Hoping to make some test runs in-between Project V (the sequel) races. This is some fact.....but mostly just the UPSMAN talkin'

You harley riders are sheltered. I've owned a GSX-R1000 and that speedometer is not far off. If you'd noticed, the tach continued to climb after 220. If he has a good turbo kit, he's probably going 200 actual. That's after the speedometer correction.

Well Geez Louise Hercengmerc now we are surprised as all get out... thanks for helping us out - us sheltered folks never know what to make of what is hapening in the "real mootorcycle world". and you ridin one of those gsxr1000 is that a street or trail bike - theyt never make down here to harleyville - but some of those fast japenese dirt bikes, why thety scare the heck out of us - and boy oh boy they fly past and you could swear they are goin at least 200.... and they jump high on the tv screen - you should see them go... think they call it motorcrooss - is that the kind of stuff you do on that gsxr - is it one of the motorcross bikes you have there - and then there was that guy in Wis on another one of those really fast bikes... cops had him at 205...... probably a what you call them a turbomotorcrosserr - he even said he was guilty - probably scared the police would tell'em how fast he was really goin I bet he was goin 300 Ethyl, I hear them things are fast -

Lets see I've Been to the 2 Top Top Speed Meets in the WORLD=BUB International Speed Trials and World of Speed.How Many 200+mph Bikes were there in Each event ,3 at Bub's, and 2 at World of Speed!5-10 in the WORLD :chair: !You can DREAM ALL YOU want about Going 200mph on the Street or The Track ,but I promise You Your Only Dreaming!It takes 250-300rwhp to go 200+ on Salt and Perfect Areodynamics!The Street is a Little easier,butYou Have No Clue to WTF you guy's are Talking about so I'm Done on the Subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :2cents:

P.S They were 1 350rwhp Turbo GSXR 750 , and the Other 2 were John Noonan's 600rwhp turbo Busa and Hank Booths 600rwhp turbo Busa that was it Fellas!!!!!!!!!!!!! :slap:

Hercengmech - No offense intended... just playing - your HD comment just seemed to good to pass up for a little counterpoint sarcasm. Kevin

OK, let's just say that the pavement markings are according to this standard (which was the most generous distance I could find):
http://www.showmeboone.com/PW/WebPublish/TSM-PavementMarkings.htm
That says, "10 feet long line segments 4 to 6 inches wide with 30-foot gaps."

I clocked the video at about 4.3 line markers per second (measured at its top speed).

40 feet X 4.3 / second = 172 feet / second.

(172 feet / second) * (1 mile/5280 feet) * (3600 seconds/hour) = 117 MPH.

So, it doesn't appear to me that the bike is going 245 MPH, unless you can double the distance of the white line markers. And, looking at the width of the lane, I don't think you can do that. It actually looks like the distance is less than 40 feet... or that is the widest lane I have ever seen!

Lets see I've Been to the 2 Top Top Speed Meets in the WORLD=BUB International Speed Trials and World of Speed.How Many 200+mph Bikes were there in Each event ,3 at Bub's, and 2 at World of Speed!5-10 in the WORLD :chair: !You can DREAM ALL YOU want about Going 200mph on the Street or The Track ,but I promise You Your Only Dreaming!It takes 250-300rwhp to go 200+ on Salt and Perfect Areodynamics!The Street is a Little easier,butYou Have No Clue to WTF you guy's are Talking about so I'm Done on the Subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :2cents:

P.S They were 1 350rwhp Turbo GSXR 750 , and the Other 2 were John Noonan's 600rwhp turbo Busa and Hank Booths 600rwhp turbo Busa that was it Fellas!!!!!!!!!!!!! :slap:

Kaz, my cousins turbo busa is pushing 350 HP and he got it there for what i spent on a stock V-rod, just because everyday people cannot make it the salt flats or speed trials, does not mean they are not out there...lol

Speedo face reads km/h, not mph--look at it again. I think 117 mph sounds about right.

Scott

Speedo face reads km/h, not mph--look at it again. I think 117 mph sounds about right.

Scott
It is clearly KM/H

Rick, just an observation but look at it again. The KM is the inside dial. Looked to me like 300+

riddle me this, batmen... The trip meter (I think that's what that lcd in the middle of the screen is) read 157 when he started (156 when he leaves the driveway, but about three seconds later it turns to 157). The video lasts 1:09 seconds and at the end of the trip the meter reads 158. Assuming he was averaging 120 mph (or 2 miles a minute)... shouldn't the trip meter have read at least 159 at the end?

I don't know if its real or not, but its really cool. I do know that I have watched Henson,Slowe and Stotz all go from 0 to 200 mph in less than 7.4 seconds on street legal no bar bikes, and thats real for sure.

Kaz, my cousins turbo busa is pushing 350 HP and he got it there for what i spent on a stock V-rod, just because everyday people cannot make it the salt flats or speed trials, does not mean they are not out there...lol
and if my sister had Balls she'd be my Brother! :spank: There Many 200+mph bikes out there but having it and doing it it 2 different things!Doing it on the Street is Not Very Smart and I'm just as Guilty as the Next guy,but Shawn Your Cousin problably isn't Your Average"Everyday Person" either! ;)

and if my sister had Balls she'd be my Brother! :spank: There Many 200+mph bikes out there but having it and doing it it 2 different things!Doing it on the Street is Not Very Smart and I'm just as Guilty as the Next guy,but Shawn Your Cousin problably isn't Your Average"Everyday Person" either! ;)
:popcorn :popcorn

I've personally seen an INDICATED 204mph on a 'Busa with a turbo on the street. The bikes makes over 330 rwhp and over 220 lb/ft torque. It also has stock gearing but since it is a second year bike has the limiter circumvented. I weigh about 210 in full
gear and I didn't top that bike out either. The only reason I went that fast on it is because I was told it could do it and I hadn't ever gone 200 before. I don't really have much urge to go faster. But if someone handed me the keys to their bike and said it will do 250 I don't know what I might do then.

Most tests that I have seen on stock delimited 'Busas and ZX12Rs show top speeds
(actual) of around 192-194. They are both limited in the top gear(s) stock to 186. Except for first year models. The limiter on the Busa can be tricked for about 50 cents with a resistor from Radio Shack. The 12 works off of the speedo if I remember correctly. So disconnecting that will give you higher speeds but you can't see it without a GPS or some other sort of device.

BTW the early Busa's were capable of doing 202MPH in stock trim, it's very believable that a turbocharged Busa would be more than capable of exceeded 220MPH. I was informed how they limited the Busa's, there is quite a bunch of resources from many members around here.
I see were this is going, to do this again the bike was clock by super bike magzine 254 mph there is site that prove it the runs 425h.p. it has the h.p.to run those speed, stock 1999 or 2000 can run stock 200 h.p . If the tubro can't pick 50h.p for $5.000 it is not worth the money to by one.but don't get wrong i love to have turbo kit but if can make that much h.p. to run good speed and power it is not worth it to me to spend that much money , i'll buy nos kit a lot cheaper for about700.00 not as much money for power of the money.You can't bet the price.That my two cent's .

That video also looked like he was going almost exactly HALF the speed indicated on the speedo to me. If it wasn't so crappy out right now I'd go get the gixxer and camera mount to check out my theory......

220 kp/h is about 137 mph. V-rod speed worthy, but a long way from 245mph!

riddle me this, batmen... The trip meter (I think that's what that lcd in the middle of the screen is) read 157 when he started (156 when he leaves the driveway, but about three seconds later it turns to 157). The video lasts 1:09 seconds and at the end of the trip the meter reads 158. Assuming he was averaging 120 mph (or 2 miles a minute)... shouldn't the trip meter have read at least 159 at the end?
Or, as I think you are saying he went just over a mile in just over a minute... sounds like his average speed was just 60 mph??? Hell, I can do that in my crappy mini-van.

Or, as I think you are saying he went just over a mile in just over a minute... sounds like his average speed was just 60 mph??? Hell, I can do that in my crappy mini-van.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Does anybody remember the part of "The Blues Brothers" movie where they are driving through Chicago under the elevated train? The speedo in the car indicated about 100 mph (if memory serves) but if you look at what else is going on in the clip, people are walking across the street in front of the car at about 10X speed. Maybe someone was just having some fun with their video editing software...

As far as I'm concerned, that guy "clocked" at 205 got screwed. I used to own an RC51. That was the bike the guy was on. It's a Honda V-twin that will never, never, never exceed 165-170 in stock configuration. Even with all the power in the world. The revs wouldn't allow the bike to spin up that fast. Maybe with a really strong turbo kit and a rear sprocket the diameter of a quarter. Maybe.
Super Kaz. Read the big dog shootout in Motorcycle Magazine from a few years ago. The GSX 1300R (Hayabusa) and the ZX-12R in stock configurations with rev limiters removed posted 194 mph times. I guarantee you that if you added a turbo kit it is completely possible that the Hayabusa could exceed 200.

The Busa was a non-turbo and yes the speedo was off. The rider is named kevin and and is a distributor/custom installer of Velocity Racing Turbo's. You can check out his website at http://www.superkaos.com/ :cheers:

Thank you, this is very cool stuff. I hope that we can get somemore info on the cutting edge stuff you guys are doing to the BUSAs. RCC Turbos is our guy here, he is a big time Busa man. Richards Custom Cycles in Canada, he has some excellent stuff for the Busa.

riddle me this, batmen... The trip meter (I think that's what that lcd in the middle of the screen is) read 157 when he started (156 when he leaves the driveway, but about three seconds later it turns to 157). The video lasts 1:09 seconds and at the end of the trip the meter reads 158. Assuming he was averaging 120 mph (or 2 miles a minute)... shouldn't the trip meter have read at least 159 at the end?

That is the clock, not an odometer, and it is mph on the outside of the dial, inside of the dial is kph. The bike does appear to be under geared, gets to redline in sixth gear too quick, realistically it looks to be maybe 160-180mph.
Richard

That is the clock, not an odometer, and it is mph on the outside of the dial, inside of the dial is kph. The bike does appear to be under geared, gets to redline in sixth gear too quick, realistically it looks to be maybe 160-180mph.
Richard
There he is our Busa man

All i can say is wholy shit

and total kaos also has a turbo kit coming for the v-rod:

http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/turbos2.jpg

and total kaos also has a turbo kit coming for the v-rod:

http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/turbos2.jpg

Hi Kerry, 27 days without a smoke!!! :eek:
That there chromium plating looks mighty purty, but having sampled four exhaust pipes & one turbo I just hope they are offering rolls of asbestos tape with the kit, I guarantee it will be required. :D
One thing is for sure about Richards system, ergonomically it is superior even to the stock pipe.
You can just see what this set up will do to your leg :tmbsdow:

Hi Kerry, 27 days without a smoke!!! :eek:
That there chromium plating looks mighty purty, but having sampled four exhaust pipes & one turbo I just hope they are offering rolls of asbestos tape with the kit, I guarantee it will be required. :D
One thing is for sure about Richards system, ergonomically it is superior even to the stock pipe.
You can just see what this set up will do to your leg :tmbsdow:

congrats on the anti-smoking campaign, young fella. Keep it up! Good point about the ergos of the total kaos system. There are other pics on their site, but no rear views. But, like you said, sure is purty! Are you still loving your rcc system? Have you posted any dyno numbers I have missed?
Are we getting off the original topic?

congrats on the anti-smoking campaign, young fella. Keep it up! Good point about the ergos of the total kaos system. There are other pics on their site, but no rear views. But, like you said, sure is purty! Are you still loving your rcc system? Have you posted any dyno numbers I have missed?
Are we getting off the original topic?

I've only posted the 137 result to date. The turbo is off the bike while I prep her for racing, should have her running again this weekend. I will re-test & post in about 2 weeks I reckon. :thumb: