Well let's hear it from the masters!:diablo:

OK here goes, 26 lbs in rear tire, feet on rear pegs, rpm's around 4500 rpm in first and nail it and pull with your arms like HELL!

http://www.v-rodforums.com/movies/vr2-1.wmv



John

Guess one doesnt need the rear brake....

Originally posted by rodman
Guess one doesnt need the rear brake....

Yes, tap the rear brake if you are about to lupe it.


John

the oil pick up is in the middle of the pan.When you do wheelies you have a chance of running the oil-pump dry.
If you wanna do wheelies,you should have gotten a crotch rocket

Wheelies are dangerous and not a rational thing to do! No one should ever do them!

The purpose of this thread is to ..ahem.. teach you how to avoid them. ;)

But hypothetically speaking, can you pull one off without standing on the rear pegs?

Great video!!

I have a friend who owns and rides sport bikes swap with me for a bit of a ride. After playing with the V-rod for a bit, he commented how great it was not to have to worry about the front wheel coming off the ground every time you twist the throttle.

Guess it all depends on your perspective.

Thanks for the tips John.................:notworthy

185 RWHP and a Sticky rear tire.Carries the front wheel 300ft with ease!:diablo:

I second that! John, thanks for sharing the secret.

I'm guessing that you had to do some experimenting to get the mix of parameters right.

BTW is that you in the video?

Rodman

John can't wheelie! :rolleyes: I've been waiting for a Picture of him doing a wheelie for a year!Believe me it's a Mother Fu(ker to do.I have tried Many times on the street! Rear tire just spins.:( At the track No problem but on the street I have yet to see it done by anyone other than a Pro Stunter!:fahr38

And we all know if Kaz can't do it, IT CAN NOT BE DONE:rofl3: Just ask him and he will tell you so;)

Kaz,
run the slick on the street,get it nice and sticky.You'll wheelie it.Just take the wheelie bar off.

Originally posted by rodman
I second that! John, thanks for sharing the secret.

I'm guessing that you had to do some experimenting to get the mix of parameters right.

BTW is that you in the video?

Rodman


No sir that isn't me. I just posted it to show it CAN be done. Road condition is critical or it will spin as Kaz said. And yes Frank you are correct!;) Kaz, you crack me up my friend!



John

You Know I love Ya Bro!:1273:

Originally posted by Frank Storms
And we all know if Kaz can't do it, IT CAN NOT BE DONE:rofl3: Just ask him and he will tell you so;)

FRANK... Must be feeling a little better BALL BUSTING KAZ.....:thumb

Ya he's wounded so I'll let him Slide!;)

SUCH A NICE GUY YOU ARE KAZ....:icon_twis :icon_twis :icon_twis

Hey, hey! How can you tap on the rear brakes if both your feet are on the rear pegs? I haven't even tried it mainly bacause of that reason. In motocross I used to be able to lock the front wheel mid air thus changing the pitch of the bike but that's 40-60mph jumps with the wheel spinning fast. I wouldn't want to find out it won't work with the V-Rod past the balance point. I guess (and will not try) you just get to know it really well, start slow, then try to keep it up under power for a soft landing as well. Maybe I need to become normal again and not care about cleanliness, looks, or subjective BS, get off my fat ass and try it. It's just another bicycle with a frame? Right? Wrong! This is a huge motorcycle, feels huge, rides huge. It will drop like the 700lb motorcycle that it is.

Fact is I don't think the V-Rod would take much of that type of riding without breaking something. I can break anything (ESMERIL, as some call me) but am trying to keep the V-Rod in good shape. My R1 was stolen and I don't really want to talk about it but the day I start messing with the Rod like that I'll have to go out and get me another plastic.

I'm now trying to rehabilitate myself. Please be safe. This kind of talk can get you in trouble with such a big, powerful and rather loooong bike.

Um, you take your right foot off the rear peg, reach forward with it and tap the brake. I guess that's a difficult concept if you're uncoordinated. :rolleyes: Just 'cause Kaz hasn't figured out how to do it doesn't mean it can't be done. I have been racing motorbikes off and on for 25+ years. In that time, I have learned a thing or two.


John

John,
my friend I started Racing motorcycles when I was 12 thats 25 years ago.I think I might just know a little about riding,racing, and wheelies!:rolleyes:

Kaz, I didn't call you out here. I just stated you are not the end all know all.


John

Yes, but while the wheel is high in the air? I'd like to see that part first before any attempts. The main thing is not to hurt the bike. If unsuccesful you may only hurt your ego and maybe some road rash. I like my bike too much to have it parked for repairs. If I see this done first, so that there is less chance of loosing it, I will try it, film it and post it (only if succesful). Maybe the sensations are not there anymore, been a long time, but it's like riding a bicycle. You never forget. Have you tried it John? Don't be sarcastic. Let's do this shit then. F**k the bike. I'm gonna go try, if I go chickenshit and won't do it I'll tell you, don't care, this is no macho crap, just playtime my friend. If I detect danger I will just not do it and that's that.

I have done a first gear wheelie on my V-Rod many, many times. Can I do a multiple gear wheelie for blocks on end, I don't know. I have never tried to do more than a first gear wheelie. The bike is front end heavy and even dropping the front end at 60 mph is unsettling.


John

Seems unlikely to do a power wheelie while stock. Do you rev to 4500 in first then whack it open? Or when at 4500 clutch it? If a power wheelie I don't think it easy with stock power, maybe it is made possible by the 28T. I'll just try. I'm very out of shape but if power is enough it should not be too difficult if I get the cojones after several attempts. They have to be big, you know? This one large MF'r that I REALLY don't want hurt and that is when trouble starts for me. Trying to be too careful can hurt. Do you need to use the brake often? Hat off to you!

I have to sleep on this (literally), it's 3:47am here and I have to do rounds in a couple of hours. Don't let this thread die. Maybe I'll need to say that to myself latter on when I chicken out. Be Cool. Be fast. Enjoy. But most of all be safe.

It's a finesse thing. I never tried it before I had the 28T pulley, but I don't think that would make a difference. I just roll on the throttle HARD, as I simultaneously pull back on the bars.


John

Gosh fellas!

The thread heats up! Don't go losing sleep over this topic! I didnt start it to get anyone tired!

If your going to V-Rod wheelies do em safely... that might be an oxymoron, but try not to hurt yourselves, and certainly not anyone else.

I'm definitley holding off until the next HD demo ride! ;)

I remember at superbike races the mechanics would get pretty P.O. ed when Scott Russell would wheelie out of the pits or up a back stretch. So even on the race version of the engine it must have mattered.. I just crashed a dirt bike in the snow doing a wheelie and have a nasty on my left "bun" and left elbow. B1T(h
about it is I would tomorrow morning. :whack: So be it at least the bike is going to be alright. Should not be playing in the snow at my age !:banghead
Good Luck.
BobT

"The thread heats up!". Nah! Just fun!

I know I have a problem with my "tone" not coming out very well. But not at all heated in any way my friend. John is rather cool (literally) in his posts so I doubt he's all worked up or something about this. If you've mastered it before you'll know that the wheelie is overrated once you get the hang of it. Also can be a handy addition to the getting laid repertoire in certain settings.:diablo:

This would just be a totally new experience to me since the bike is immense compared to what I am accustomed to. Give me a scooter and I can wheelie around the block and back without the front wheel ever touching the ground. My neighbors son had a Malafufri or something and it got the front end bent by my light 185 pounds doing an endo, expensive little thing. My 185 ARE lighter:rofl3: .

Oh! Did not ride because of rain. Stopped yesterday but work hectic with Joint Commission inspection.

As kind of an update. Tried today for first time. Short ride. Need a longer ride to get it. No rush. May be easier with stock bars. I believe the wheel will come up and that it may not be so difficult after all to get me started. Still not comfortable with the idea of lifting the foot to touch the brake. Feels underpowered for this. If I keep the feet on the front pegs starts to burn rubber (clutching it), may need a new tire anyway so will f**k this one up no problem. Maybe she needs the new tire.

All in all had me some fun today riding and thinking of you guys at THE forum. NO SCARES so far, body armored and all. This is just for fun. Right?

To the traditionals, yes, yes, yes, the Vroad is not for this, I agree very very much. As it is, actually that IS the reason to do it. Heck if John gets to do them at least I know it can be done and try it myself. Cool trick seeing this cow down the street in one wheel, very immature? Yes. I think it will break if abused too often, have with everything else. I want a photo of me doing this for my garage, then I'm done;) . My friend can wheelie a Valkyrie (not his) much higher and longer than in the video, but this guy is truly something else.Now that is one huge cow. (http://www.valkyrieriders.com/images/MyDad.mpeg)

Originally posted by eduarprmd
. If you've mastered it before you'll know that the wheelie is overrated once you get the hang of it. Also can be a handy addition to the getting laid repertoire in certain settings.:diablo:



LOL! Yes I knew that there must have been a reason. Good luck! Oh yeah good luck with the wheelie as well. ;):rofl3:

Seriously, lookin fwd to seeing your pic.

Rodman

Haven't been here for a while. Now I HAVE to do it!:rolleyes:

Really, tried, not done, what can I say? Wheel will come up, nothing to talk about, girly wheelie not deserving the talk. Be safe or not do it at all. Not much seat time either. No offense to any but really does not "feel" right, feel like a clown on the rear footpegs, people looking at you with the WTF face while you try something new AND obviously see me acomplishing nothing cause that's what's happened so far. Still want the photo for shop and office. Knowing me I will get it. Sometime:whack: . I need some seat time and NOT fall.

If I could only get a pic of what it feels like when trying. The mental image is so funny. Feels like skateboarding somehow but not really same of course. Probably just weak. It's all BS until the evidence, I always say that. Oh! I do not have the greatest of skills, by no means, I just dig motorcycles very, very much.

Originally posted by Ketsugo
Um, you take your right foot off the rear peg, reach forward with it and tap the brake. I guess that's a difficult concept if you're uncoordinated. :rolleyes: Just 'cause Kaz hasn't figured out how to do it doesn't mean it can't be done. I have been racing motorbikes off and on for 25+ years. In that time, I have learned a thing or two.


John Never take your right foot away from the brake. Circle wheelies anyone
http://www.detroitstreetryders.com/photo/albums/userpics/10001/normal_ronnie%26shift.jpg

it can be done easily with a fairly stock Rodney, with 36 psi front and rear. what I do is simply kick her in the ass at the very top of a few hills in my town. I keep the feet on the front pegs, and pull like a mutha *****. It will come up and stay up, just when it feels like its gonna come over, give it more power!!!!!!!!!

Course, i practice on the dirtbike and loop it out about once a month....

best of luck..

BART

just when it feels like its gonna come over, give it more power!!!!!!!!!

:hmm:

King, twas a bit toung in cheek, just to let you know. But for some reason, that is what it feels like to me. Of course all feelings are subjective some on this forum might get comfort out of that feeling......Ride it like you stole it!!!!!!

New to the forumns. I have had a stock v-rod for six months. I pulled it up at the dealership before I bought it, just trying to see how quick it was. I had only owned a bike for a month before that so it scared the mess out of me. Since then I have pulled it up twice more ( I wasn't trying either time). Never tried to ride one far though. I guess I like pulling of the stop sign to hard!!!

New to the forumns. I have had a stock v-rod for six months. I pulled it up at the dealership before I bought it, just trying to see how quick it was. I had only owned a bike for a month before that so it scared the mess out of me. Since then I have pulled it up twice more ( I wasn't trying either time). Never tried to ride one far though. I guess I like pulling of the stop sign to hard!!!
I will Give you a $100 for a Picture of you doing a wheelie! :thumb:

Definition of a wheelie?

Definition of a wheelie?
Get You Friggen front wheel at Least a Foot of the Ground for More then 20 ft.Why You Think you can wheelie Your V-rod? :rofl:I'm still waiting John ,Eddy ,who else? :bs: :paper: :thumb:

NO and haven't tried....just looking for clarification ! :thumb:

and no laughing at me shorty!! :whack:

NO and haven't tried....just looking for clarification ! :thumb:

and no laughing at me shorty!! :whack:
IT'S JUST FUNNY!Your So Friggen Big You Problably could Just pull real hard! :rolleyes: Pic's not Photo shop or Better yet Video!Now You see my Wheelie in my Avatar!300ft on the Bars to be exact.Now I know thats cheating with wheelie bars and 200rwhp NOS Systems,but Short of a World Class Stunter on a SPECIALLY MODIFIED V-rod!None of Our Member Can wheelie their V-rods!Please Somebody Prove Me Wrong!PROOF!!!!!!!!Show Me!!!!!! :soapbox: I want to be the First on to congradulate anyone who can .Then ask HTF Did you do that? ;) :kaz:

Kaz.. I love the bike but it's a TANK OUT FRONT, heavy,long rake!!!! maybe if you lighten it.. a 26 tooth pulley,soft rear tire and with some shock work to get some weight transfer!!! and with my big butt it still won't do it.

Kaz.. I love the bike but it's a TANK OUT FRONT, heavy,long rake!!!! maybe if you lighten it.. a 26 tooth pulley,soft rear tire and with some shock work to get some weight transfer!!! and with my big butt it still won't do it.
I'm NO STUNTER ,but I'm a Pretty decent Rider/Racer! :rolleyes: I have Tried Many Times and Believe me I Have Very Low Gears and a Huge Stick Rear Tire and The Only Place I can Wheelie is at the Race Track!It Just Spins it on the Street! :mad:

It seems to me that at more than one green light when hammering it as hard as I can, my front end has 'unloaded' so much that I would swear the front tire must have lifted off the ground an inch or two, and only for a very short time length- like a second or two. Is this what some people are confusing with a wheelie? I would call it lifting the front tire. Or better yet, REALLY unloading the front end (weight). But this is a good thing. The crotch rocketeers pay big bucks to lengthen their swingarms so their bikes launch with little or no wheelie.

anyway... all bikes wheelie, a vrod is a bike, so a vrod wheelies. plain and simple... I din't have to do it or see it to believe it can be done. let us close the case on this, there is a picture of a guy standing on the rear pegs wheelie-ing down the road in our gallery...

It seems to me that at more than one green light when hammering it as hard as I can, my front end has 'unloaded' so much that I would swear the front tire must have lifted off the ground an inch or two, and only for a very short time length- like a second or two. Is this what some people are confusing with a wheelie? I would call it lifting the front tire. Or better yet, REALLY unloading the front end (weight). But this is a good thing. The crotch rocketeers pay big bucks to lengthen their swingarms so their bikes launch with little or no wheelie.

anyway... all bikes wheelie, a vrod is a bike, so a vrod wheelies. plain and simple... I din't have to do it or see it to believe it can be done. let us close the case on this, there is a picture of a guy standing on the rear pegs wheelie-ing down the road in our gallery...
It AIN'T KNOW MEMBER HERE!Pro stunt Rider Bro! :thumb:

I think it's possible to wheelie a stock v-rod when you have a heavy person sitting behind you.
The problem is that all my friends don't like to sit together with me on the same bike.
It is not a bike setup problem or a matter of technique, it is simply a lack of trust.

Get You Friggen front wheel at Least a Foot of the Ground for More then 20 ft.Why You Think you can wheelie Your V-rod? :rofl:I'm still waiting John ,Eddy ,who else? :bs: :paper: :thumb:
Definition. To me you have to or at least almost reach the balance point. Have I? Never, on the V-Rod that is. On very hard launches the front tire does seem to come up and it feels all wrong to land this puny wheelie. Maybe it's just the sensation of it without any air under the tire. Most of the time the rear wheel just spins. Can it be done? I think so, yes. If it requires your feet to be on the rear pegs I will never do them because of the stupid feel AND I WILL NOT TAKE MY FOOT OF THE BRAKE. Knowing today's capabilities, on a stunters scale I'd rate me 3 or 4 in a 10pt scale, maybe less, but simple wheelies are on the first page of the manual. I'll add 100 to Kaz's offering for a video clip good enough to show this newbie (me) how to get some confidence.

Definition. To me you have to or at least almost reach the balance point. Have I? Never, on the V-Rod that is. On very hard launches the front tire does seem to come up and it feels all wrong to land this puny wheelie. Maybe it's just the sensation of it without any air under the tire. Most of the time the rear wheel just spins. Can it be done? I think so, yes. If it requires your feet to be on the rear pegs I will never do them because of the stupid feel AND I WILL NOT TAKE MY FOOT OF THE BRAKE. Knowing today's capabilities, on a stunters scale I'd rate me 3 or 4 in a 10pt scale, maybe less, but simple wheelies are on the first page of the manual. I'll add 100 to Kaz's offering for a video clip good enough to show this newbie (me) how to get some confidence.
Ed Dog,
Thats what I'm Sayin!I'm sure it can,and Has been done,but theres a Trick we are Missing!I would Pay whom ever $100 to Teach me How the Fu(k to do one!I've about Blown out My Back Tryin!My Good Friend and Body Piercer"Yes I have a couple of those" is name is KANE!He done all the Videos and Travels on Tour Doing Shows.He said he would show me but we have not had Time! :(

As a kid I raced a Kawasaki 125 with a Yamaha 80. I was very inexperienced. Popped the clutch, up came the front and my back was welcomed to the ground. You know, for the first few feet or so the Yamaha had the lead without me on it until it hit a tree.

So I just want to say thanks for erasing my fear of that happening with the V-ROD.
It has always been on my mind and I didn't ever want that to happen with my V-ROD. At least now I know it's extremely difficult to make it happen on purpose.

Let me clarify. As I said before I never attempted to ride a wheelie. I am no stunt man on a motorcycle either therefore I am not going to attempt ride a wheelie for the camera. I have never reached a balance point before. Not trying to make myself out to be something, just stating that I did raise the wheel off the ground. Don't know how much as I am not an experienced rider.

Here is me ole AVATAR - -

Who is it?

Here is me ole AVATAR - -
That AIN'T You My Brotha! :rolleyes:

I know....He's a little short shit! :spank:

FRANK... Must be feeling a little better BALL BUSTING KAZ.....:thumb
I'm his Avatar Now so I think he SECRETLY Has a Crush on me ,and Can't handle the Fact that I'm happily Married to Martha:stilpoke: !He also needs to work out a Little More as he's a Little to Soft for my Liking:angeldev: !

Get You Friggen front wheel at Least a Foot of the Ground for More then 20 ft.Why You Think you can wheelie Your V-rod? :rofl:I'm still waiting John ,Eddy ,who else? :bs: :paper: :thumb:

I have had mine up that high more than once. And rode it for 75 -100Feet.
Every time has been on a slight grade with a passenger on behind. Without using the clutch!!! You have to crack the throttle (WOT) Then let off, Then
crack it again(Timing has to be right) After the front end compresses, On its way back up/Split second/Crack it WOT again. I have done it on the second and third time! Believe me it will come up!!! The last time I did it, (Daughter on Behind) I stopped @ A store a few minutes later, My daughter was crying,
Scared her to death. My son was behind us on his ZZR 600. He was amazed
@ How high and how far I rode it!!! A couple of other times I have brung it up
with my son on the rear, But not as high/Far.
My Weak rear springs and soft front end may have helped the process of
Weight transfer. When I first bought my bike, The rear shocks were set on
#2 . The dealer did not have a spanner wrench, So I rode it that way for a while. Two up.

IT'S JUST FUNNY!Your So Friggen Big You Problably could Just pull real hard! :rolleyes: Pic's not Photo shop or Better yet Video!Now You see my Wheelie in my Avatar!300ft on the Bars to be exact.Now I know thats cheating with wheelie bars and 200rwhp NOS Systems,but Short of a World Class Stunter on a SPECIALLY MODIFIED V-rod!None of Our Member Can wheelie their V-rods!Please Somebody Prove Me Wrong!PROOF!!!!!!!!Show Me!!!!!! :soapbox: I want to be the First on to congradulate anyone who can .Then ask HTF Did you do that? ;) :kaz:


I want to see a VIDEO of YOUR bike wheelieing (sp?) for 300' at the strip....can't be done without an auto tranny...and definitely not running 10.0x at 13x mph...(and a VRod with bar,slick, and 200HP of nitrous and you couldn't go quicker than that?!?!?!.) I want a video from the 330' mark....not just a still.....

I will Give you a $100 for a Picture of you doing a wheelie! :thumb:


Is this worth $100.........:driving:

I'll pay anyone with stock V-Rod 200 Bucks (TWOHUNDRET) if he posts a video showing him doing a stoppy on the front wheel only, finished off with a 180° turn on the front wheel only off course.


















...on sand

Is this worth $100.........:driving:
Back then it was a Big Deal,but now with the R's just about anyone can wheelie one a foot or two:thumb: !
Jan,
I agree a Stoppie would be pretty tuff on a Regular V-rod,but I'm sure it will be done sooner or later:plause: !

Kaz - That shot was actully my second time at the track with the 1250 set-up - minutes after I had told a number of guys on Busa that the great thing about the VRod was it was actually IMPOSSIBLE to wheelie a VRod - and that one kept climbing after the pic was snapped - I came back to the pits way confused :confused: - later after convincing myself that it couldn't have really happened - now just be a man and grab a handful of throttle and let that clutch rip....... HELLO :hitit: - went really high then....really, really high..... I have since learned to slide the clutch. :moped: KSP