The 2009 Big Twin calibrations are now on the updater for everyone. Please toss all the old xx205 and xx200 files as they will no longer work and there were some mistakes in them. The new update contains full speedometer adjustments for gear changes and/or tire changes. The new V-rod files will be up next week.

Que?

I guess someone knows what you are talking about.

Thanks Steve.

For those of you that may not be aware, Steve is THE MAN at The Turbo Shop. They are the firm who made the original Screamin Eagle Race Tuners for the Delphi EFI. The contract for the SERT was not agreed on between The Turbo Shop (TTS) and Harley Davidson, so they gave the contract to Kent-Moore Tools. (Kent-Moore They have introduced the Screamin Eagle Pro Super Tuner, or whatever they call it.)

Steve and The Turbo Shop decided to take the ball and evolve it into the Master Tuner under their own private label. It was recently released, and he is doing us a HUGE favor by announcing his updates here. The Master Tuner has a bunch of UPGRADES from the SERT and now that TTS is not taking orders from HD, they have opened up a BUNCH of more useable tables in the Delphi EFI. This is one of the biggest reasons I decided to go with Buell wheels. The Master Tuner allows you to customize your speedo calibration in the ECM, so now you can run a chain, 17" wheels, 70 tooth rear pulley, 26 tooth front pulley or any combination there-of and still calibrate your speedo without adding an in line speedo calibrator.

I'll be sending my SERT to Steve as soon as they catch up so they can re-program it with the new capabilities. ;)

Thanks Steve, we appreciate it!!! :thumb:

Please let me know when you want my SERT.........

Thanks Steve.

For those of you that may not be aware, Steve is THE MAN at The Turbo Shop. They are the firm who made the original Screamin Eagle Race Tuners for the Delphi EFI. The contract for the SERT was not agreed on between The Turbo Shop (TTS) and Harley Davidson, so they gave the contract to Kent-Moore Tools. They have introduced the Screamin Eagle Pro Super Tuner, or whatever they call it.

Steve and The Turbo Shop decided to take the ball and evolve it into the Master Tuner under their own private label. It was recently released, and he is doing us a HUGE favor by announcing his updates here. The Master Tuner has a bunch of UPGRADES from the SERT and now that TTS is not taking orders from HD, they have opened up a BUNCH of more useable tables in the Delphi EFI. This is one of the biggest reasons I decided to go with Buell wheels. The Master Tuner allows you to customize your speedo calibration in the ECM, so now you can run a chain, 17" wheels, 70 tooth rear pulley, 26 tooth front pulley or any combination there-of and still calibrate your speedo without adding an in line speedo calibrator.

I'll be sending my SERT to Steve as soon as they catch up so they can re-program it with the new capabilities. ;)

Thanks Steve, we appreciate it!!! :thumb:

Please let me know when you want my SERT.........

VRFI also allows custom speedo tuning of the VSS.

I do see a Mastertune re-prog setup in my future.

Thanks Steve.

For those of you that may not be aware, Steve is THE MAN at The Turbo Shop. They are the firm who made the original Screamin Eagle Race Tuners for the Delphi EFI. The contract for the SERT was not agreed on between The Turbo Shop (TTS) and Harley Davidson, so they gave the contract to Kent-Moore Tools. (Kent-Moore They have introduced the Screamin Eagle Pro Super Tuner, or whatever they call it.)

Steve and The Turbo Shop decided to take the ball and evolve it into the Master Tuner under their own private label. It was recently released, and he is doing us a HUGE favor by announcing his updates here. The Master Tuner has a bunch of UPGRADES from the SERT and now that TTS is not taking orders from HD, they have opened up a BUNCH of more useable tables in the Delphi EFI. This is one of the biggest reasons I decided to go with Buell wheels. The Master Tuner allows you to customize your speedo calibration in the ECM, so now you can run a chain, 17" wheels, 70 tooth rear pulley, 26 tooth front pulley or any combination there-of and still calibrate your speedo without adding an in line speedo calibrator.

I'll be sending my SERT to Steve as soon as they catch up so they can re-program it with the new capabilities. ;)

Thanks Steve, we appreciate it!!! :thumb:

Please let me know when you want my SERT.........

What he said ;)

BTW, the new TTS software comes with an online updater that although it may seem similar to the Pro Tuner it's actually better thought out and doesn't suffer from some of the teething problems.

In fact, it's so good all you really need is the hardware interface and the small updater program. Bug fixes happen as needed without waiting for formal packaging releases from Harley. It's a beautiful thing :D

how the hell you guys no all this shiitt? i no RJ broke it down but i'm still lost!

what ya need to do is hook up your vj to the cj then take a break & get a bjay, come back in 30 min. & your ready to roll.:cuckoo:hmm::helpme:

how the hell you guys no all this shiitt? i no RJ broke it down but i'm still lost!

what ya need to do is hook up your vj to the cj then take a break & get a bjay, come back in 30 min. & your ready to roll.:cuckoo:hmm::helpme:


Exactly,you've got it now.:wazzup:


These guys are the real deal,the people that make and test the products we use.




Elrod on the V-Rod

how the hell you guys no all this shiitt? i no RJ broke it down but i'm still lost!



Didn't you get the Memo?

This is the stuff I've been waiting to hear. But, now I need to unload a PCIII, LCD display, and if there's any interest my wideband commander also. I'm moving to more race-oriented ride for the V. Shovelhead for the streets (less likely to be arrested for mach-acceleration).:notworth:

Didn't you get the Memo?

my fax machine is busted.
well i have all winter to read the memo, so hopefully next season i'll have a better grasp of it all.

i'm like TOM "THE COOCOO" CRUISE in DAYS OF THUNDER, i don't no much of the mechanics of the bike but i can sure ride the crap out of it.:angeldev:

Nice! I'm getting mine next week. I have a guy doing the powerline mod for me followed by a TTS tune. Good timing on the VRod updates!

I'll be sending my SERT to Steve as soon as they catch up so they can re-program it with the new capabilities. ;)


Please let me know when you want my SERT.........

Did you mean you are sending your mastertune to Steve, or is he updating your Harley SERT?!? I know he made them both, but is he upgrading the SERTs we all bought from Harley for a fee? Or did I just misunderstand here.

Did you mean you are sending your mastertune to Steve, or is he updating your Harley SERT?!? I know he made them both, but is he upgrading the SERTs we all bought from Harley for a fee? Or did I just misunderstand here.

We will be upgrading old SERT units once everything is finished. The process will be a program that you install on a PC and connect to your bike with your interface and cables. This will let you know if you have a unit that can be upgraded or not as not all can be. If you have one that can be upgraded then send it in and you will receive the same unit back still locked to your bike that will allow you to switch to Mastertune Software. Do not have the price or when we will be doing them just yet but I expect to have it by the end of the month.

That's awesome Steve. I wish I had a SERT instead of a SEPST!!

Has any decision been made about a SERT upgrade for the earlier pre-oxygen sensor bikes?

Has any decision been made about a SERT upgrade for the earlier pre-oxygen sensor bikes?I think that's covered by post #14.

I think that's covered by post #14.

From what I understood, the V-tune software made use of the bikes O2 sensors, and was to be initially available for the newer models. I want to know if there any hope that the older bikes will be able to use it also if we have a wego.

We are working on a kit to add Stock (switching) O2 sensor and a calibration for the 2005 and up V-rod. We do not expect to finish it before the end of the year.

We are working on a kit to add Stock (switching) O2 sensor and a calibration for the 2005 and up V-rod. We do not expect to finish it before the end of the year.

Why 05 and up? Is there that much of a difference between the 05 and the pre 05 ECM?

Yes there is. I will look into the earlier bike ECM once I get the later stuff all up and working.

Different types of ECM

I think I saved this list from a previous post somewhere on the forum

There are multiple versions of the ECM.

32852-08
32852-07
32534-05
32534-05B
32534-05C
32498-05
32498-05A
32784-01

It looks like 4 different hardware and 8 different firmware versions. These are listed newest to oldest. The -01 is for the pre-'05 bikes and is no longer available for purchase.

My question is can a later model ECM say 32534-05 be retro fitted to an 03 bike. I assume that the ECM is in the same place on the 05 bikes i.e. at the front of the bike and not under the seat. Also would you have to change the TSSM?

Different types of ECM

I think I saved this list from a previous post somewhere on the forum

There are multiple versions of the ECM.

32852-08
32852-07
32534-05
32534-05B
32534-05C
32498-05
32498-05A
32784-01

It looks like 4 different hardware and 8 different firmware versions. These are listed newest to oldest. The -01 is for the pre-'05 bikes and is no longer available for purchase.

My question is can a later model ECM say 32534-05 be retro fitted to an 03 bike. I assume that the ECM is in the same place on the 05 bikes i.e. at the front of the bike and not under the seat. Also would you have to change the TSSM?

Yes, newer ECM's can be retrofit but you cannot easily go from an open loop ECM to a closed loop ECM since there are wiring differences. So, if you have an '03 you can retrofit to the newest, non-closed loop ECM. That's probably 32534-05C.

From what I understood, the V-tune software made use of the bikes O2 sensors, and was to be initially available for the newer models. I want to know if there any hope that the older bikes will be able to use it also if we have a wego.

FYI, the MasterTune works with all year ECM's. It's just the V-Tune program that only works with the closed loop bikes today.

Remember, there are 3 pieces of software;

ECM programming (tuning) = MasterTune
Data Logging = DataMaster
Auto Tuning = V-Tune

Thanks for the reply Mark

I don't think I will change what I have but as there is differences in the ECM's I was thinking that the later one, for instance the one you mentioned, gives you more rpm steps to play with as it has more available memory therefore making a better tune.

Thanks for the reply Mark

I don't think I will change what I have but as there is differences in the ECM's I was thinking that the later one, for instance the one you mentioned, gives you more rpm steps to play with as it has more available memory therefore making a better tune.

Actually, the major difference between the two is hardware, the newer ECM's have more onboard flash memory and I think they have a faster processor but I'm not sure of that.

The RPM ranges are completely programmable by the ECM engineers, the different RPM ranges are only because some engineer at the MoCo thought the new ranges were better than the old. It has nothing to do with the version of ECM.

FYI, there was a thread HERE (http://www.1130cc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105603) where Steve asked what RPM ranges we wanted for the VRSC tunes. The Mastertune .MT7 files use a different RPM mapping based on our input, not some engineer's ideas in Milwaukee.

Thanks again mark

I had read that thread before but I was thinking that the flexibility of RPM steps was only available with the later model ECM's because of the memory issue.

Great now it's clear I will get in touch with TTS and order a mastertune, download the original file out of my 2003 HDI Anniversary model and start to play with things. :)

The 2009 Big Twin calibrations are now on the updater for everyone. Please toss all the old xx205 and xx200 files as they will no longer work and there were some mistakes in them. The new update contains full speedometer adjustments for gear changes and/or tire changes. The new V-rod files will be up next week.

I have just received my mastertuner and went to the TTS website but the .MT7 files are not posted yet for the V Rod. Does anyone have any idea when these will be posted?

I have just received my mastertuner and went to the TTS website but the .MT7 files are not posted yet for the V Rod. Does anyone have any idea when these will be posted?

Actually, if you run the TTS Software Updater it will download all the current published .MT7 files into your //My Documents/TTS/HD/MasterTune-HD/V-Rod Models local directory. The only .MT7 file put up so far is for '08 and newer closed loop bikes. You'll need to use the .MT6 files for the older bikes but that isn't really a problem since the main thing .MT7 brings is the closed loop tuning.

I've been out of town but see that Mark has answer the question well. We are working on new V-rod calibrations with different RPM set points but those are not completed yet. The current .MT7 file for closed loop works on all the closed loop Vrods. If your looking at the .MT6 files when you go to load the file, change the file ext. that your looking for in the bottom center of the window from .MT7 to .MT6 by selecting it.

I've been out of town but see that Mark has answer the question well. We are working on new V-rod calibrations with different RPM set points but those are not completed yet. The current .MT7 file for closed loop works on all the closed loop Vrods. If your looking at the .MT6 files when you go to load the file, change the file ext. that your looking for in the bottom center of the window from .MT7 to .MT6 by selecting it.

I did exactly this on my 09 and it said i needed MT7 file for 09 later models(would not load to bike).So i used the file MT7 Mark had posted on the forum which has extra selections on the Table Selection tab.Maybe that is why it would not work on my 09?