Anyone using this kit?

I ask because it seemed to have a 100% positive reaction and was accordingly at the top of my "buy" list, but I've only just noticed the sample size is tiny...

Any user comments?

The product just started shipping a week or 2 ago so I doubt there's a lot of first hand knowledge.

But, since it's just an updated version of the SERT and not an entirely new program I think the 6 years of SERT background is enough to validate the product.

The product just started shipping a week or 2 ago so I doubt there's a lot of first hand knowledge.

But, since it's just an updated version of the SERT and not an entirely new program I think the 6 years of SERT background is enough to validate the product.
As far as I know it still isn't shipping - at least not with cables, so practically speaking it isn't any use yet.

However, has ANYONE used it? Because the impression being given is that it's pretty good, and when you analyse it, that impression seems to have formed in mid air because nobody has it. Or do they?

You say it is the same as the SERT, but actually it seems to do much more. So how can anyone know if the new stuff works, or if it has broken the old stuff?

Why is better than the Harley products (SEPST or whatever it is called)? Both products have the same grossly unreasonable restriction you can only use them on one bike - I expect that from Harley, who are basically thieves (which is why I try very hard not to buy anything from them now), but I'm a bit chary about being ripped off like that by a third party.

Are there any maps for it?

I'd want to run it with a SE filter and D and D Fat Cat. How would I do that?

I can see that a PCIII is a less elegant solution, but, practically speaking, what exactly is wrong with using it?

I find all this most confusing...

Louis,

You're over analyzing this. The MasterTune is a newer version of a program that has sold well over 80,000 copies worldwide. The new features are just that, new features and the company has been very diligent at regression testing the software to ensure compatibility. It is the only new product that allows the use of the older SERT maps and the ONLY product that allows you to pull a copy of your existing program so you can always get back to where you started from.

The issue about locking it to a bike is normal for all devices of this type whether they be motorcycles, cars or boats. The software MUST be locked to the original motor it was purchased for to prevent people from simply making copies and sending them to their friends or selling them on ebay. I have been in the high tech business all my life, part of it writing custom code and every one of my released products was code locked to the original user. Without that MY intellectual property cannot be protected.

There are really only 2 viable alternatives for tuning the Delphi controller, the new "Super" tuner from Harley and the MasterTune from TTS. Both have their strengths and weaknesses so it's up to you to decide which is best for you. Personally, I always liked the SERT and will continue to use the MasterTune as an extension on the SERT unless and until something better comes out.

There is one feature I've been pushing TTS to provide with the software, the ability to unlock the key when you put the stock program back into the bike. It's a feature people like SuperChips use and one they could incorporate in their next device since it will have a more intelligent key lock. If they added that feature then I think it would be close to being the perfect product.

Don't compare this or the Super Tuner with the PCIII or Techlusion box, they are two completely different products. I personally will never use an piggyback device as long as I have the ability to program the actual ECM. That's MY personal opinion, I don't expect others to agree.

Unlocking it when you put the original map back would be reasonable. So would tying it to the USER in any one of the many ways we all use (I'm in the IT business too). Normally I detest dongles, but this might be a reasonable case for one. However tying it to the BIKE is completely unreasonable.

Yes, the ability to pull off and replace the original map is one of the two reasons I'll probably plump for the MasterTune. The other being the SEPST seems to have a reputation for not working - although, again, I dunno how much of that is non-computer literate people trying to use it.

However, I'd like to hear someone else's experiences of actually using it first, and both the licensing restrictions and the lack of cables make me wary.

I'm not comparing it to the PCIII - it is indeed a different product. However, I can pull a PCIII off, and / or move it to a different bike. So again I find myself asking, what exactly is the downside of a PCIII? Apart from being another thing to fail, which doesn't count because it can be thrown away, unlike the MasterTune, which has to be working to undo its own effect...

Unlocking it when you put the original map back would be reasonable. So would tying it to the USER in any one of the many ways we all use (I'm in the IT business too). Normally I detest dongles, but this might be a reasonable case for one. However tying it to the BIKE is completely unreasonable.

Yes, the ability to pull off and replace the original map is one of the two reasons I'll probably plump for the MasterTune. The other being the SEPST seems to have a reputation for not working - although, again, I dunno how much of that is non-computer literate people trying to use it.

However, I'd like to hear someone else's experiences of actually using it first, and both the licensing restrictions and the lack of cables make me wary.

I'm not comparing it to the PCIII - it is indeed a different product. However, I can pull a PCIII off, and / or move it to a different bike. So again I find myself asking, what exactly is the downside of a PCIII? Apart from being another thing to fail, which doesn't count because it can be thrown away, unlike the MasterTune, which has to be working to undo its own effect...tuning with a sert or the master tune is more difficult but you can do a lot better job . a power commander is like doing surgery with a dull axe. the sert is a scalpel.

Louis

I have one and will be trying it out during the first two weeks of july so I will post up my impressions. I will also use the twinscan so there is plenty of scope for problems I am sure. Anyhow let's see.

I'll be interested to hear. But this is an old thread - in the end I put on the D&D and SE filter, found a PCIII cheap, tuned it with a Twinscan, and I'm delighted.

Pulled the plugs on my 06 SE2 [stock] looked a little on the lean side,
talked to MJW930 He suggested what map would work for me ,Bike is running strong, Thanks Mark & Steve. BTW saving the original map
is a great idea.